Sweats Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 58 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: The phrase “not guilty” in a criminal trial is confusing and many don’t know what it actually means because those two words seems to indicate innocent. It needs more context, specifically that you are required to assume the defendant is innocent unless the prosecution shows enough evidence to confirm they are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In OJs case I think the jury decided reasonable doubt was that the police were raciat and could have planted the evidence. The evidence was damning but they were able to show blood was missing or unaccounted for and it could have been used to plant evidence. Recently, jurors have come out on record saying that the not guilty verdict in the OJ trial was a retaliation for the Rodney King incident. So what i'm saying, is that no matter whether the prosecution has satisfied it's "burden of proof", a jury (in any trial) will side with whatever agenda it perceives and anyone who doesn't see that or still believes in honest and fair trials are severely disillusioned. Honestly at the end of the day, jurors don't care about right or wrong, guilty or innocent......they know it's not them on trial and most just want to get the hell out of there as quick as possible knowing they are only earning $25 a day to do their civic duty. So, imagine putting your life in the hands of 12 people who don't know you, don't care about you, are only making $25 a day, have to sit in one spot for sometimes 8 hours a day and really don't care about whatever happens to you because they need to get that trial over quick to get back to their jobs to pay for their homes, their bills and they have to plan what they're going to make for dinner that evening for little Sally, etc. Being judged by a jury of our peers?.....a fair and honest legal system?.......no such thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 22 hours ago, DJB said: I had no idea that TBD had so many lawyers, judges and forensic analysts that posted on here 15 hours ago, Just Jack said: We are also experts in stadium engineering/construction, sales techniques, and contract law. Not to mention the incredible gift of hindsight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, Sweats said: Recently, jurors have come out on record saying that the not guilty verdict in the OJ trial was a retaliation for the Rodney King incident. So what i'm saying, is that no matter whether the prosecution has satisfied it's "burden of proof", a jury (in any trial) will side with whatever agenda it perceives and anyone who doesn't see that or still believes in honest and fair trials are severely disillusioned. Honestly at the end of the day, jurors don't care about right or wrong, guilty or innocent......they know it's not them on trial and most just want to get the hell out of there as quick as possible knowing they are only earning $25 a day to do their civic duty. So, imagine putting your life in the hands of 12 people who don't know you, don't care about you, are only making $25 a day, have to sit in one spot for sometimes 8 hours a day and really don't care about whatever happens to you because they need to get that trial over quick to get back to their jobs to pay for their homes, their bills and they have to plan what they're going to make for dinner that evening for little Sally, etc. Being judged by a jury of our peers?.....a fair and honest legal system?.......no such thing. The system is definitely imperfect. And I agree racial history with the LAPD played a role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Buffalo Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 4/11/2024 at 10:49 AM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: You can’t deny the dudes talent. He is definitely in the conversation of GOAT running back and would’ve dominated in any era. OJs 2k season was not just his own accomplishment, but also pure dominance by the offensive line. If I was to name the top 15 RB's of all time, O.J.'s name would be on that list. But I've never heard anyone outside a Bills discussion board say that O.J. was better than Jim Brown or Barry Sanders. I personally take no joy in his football accomplishments, because of the double murder. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 4/17/2024 at 1:59 PM, Matt_In_NH said: The system is definitely imperfect. And I agree racial history with the LAPD played a role. OJ was the best running back I ever saw play the game. I never had the pleasure of watching Jim Brown run but OJ was electrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I saw them all play. Brown & Simpson impacted their teams chances to win. Sanders was just a highlight reel. ‘Lions lose again, but ya gotta see what Barry did” 5 hours ago, Rampant Buffalo said: If I was to name the top 15 RB's of all time, O.J.'s name would be on that list. But I've never heard anyone outside a Bills discussion board say that O.J. was better than Jim Brown or Barry Sanders. I personally take no joy in his football accomplishments, because of the double murder. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 4/16/2024 at 10:45 AM, DJB said: I had no idea that TBD had so many lawyers, judges and forensic analysts that posted on here Ok. So here's the question. You're accused of a crime and need a set of lawyers to help you do you pick Marcia Clark and Chris Darden or 2 random TBD lawyers? Maybe I should do a poll? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Wow, I saw that this thread got bumped to the top and immediately opened it to make sure he's still dead. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Ok. So here's the question. You're accused of a crime and need a set of lawyers to help you do you pick Marcia Clark and Chris Darden or 2 random TBD lawyers? Maybe I should do a poll? Two random TBD lawyers, easily. Marcia Clarke was terrible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 4/17/2024 at 9:04 AM, Sweats said: Recently, jurors have come out on record saying that the not guilty verdict in the OJ trial was a retaliation for the Rodney King incident. So what i'm saying, is that no matter whether the prosecution has satisfied it's "burden of proof", a jury (in any trial) will side with whatever agenda it perceives and anyone who doesn't see that or still believes in honest and fair trials are severely disillusioned. Honestly at the end of the day, jurors don't care about right or wrong, guilty or innocent......they know it's not them on trial and most just want to get the hell out of there as quick as possible knowing they are only earning $25 a day to do their civic duty. So, imagine putting your life in the hands of 12 people who don't know you, don't care about you, are only making $25 a day, have to sit in one spot for sometimes 8 hours a day and really don't care about whatever happens to you because they need to get that trial over quick to get back to their jobs to pay for their homes, their bills and they have to plan what they're going to make for dinner that evening for little Sally, etc. Being judged by a jury of our peers?.....a fair and honest legal system?.......no such thing. Meh….Have you been on a jury? You are taking a very specific case and broadly generalizing…. Got a better idea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) He's still dead, and the Goldmans will still get the money they deserve. It's over, thankfully. Done. Finished. Edited May 16 by EasternOHBillsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 7 hours ago, Rampant Buffalo said: If I was to name the top 15 RB's of all time, O.J.'s name would be on that list. But I've never heard anyone outside a Bills discussion board say that O.J. was better than Jim Brown or Barry Sanders. I personally take no joy in his football accomplishments, because of the double murder. So, The Ronnettes "Be My Baby" and all the Wall of Sound music is to be destroyed because of Phil Spector actions later in life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 4/17/2024 at 9:04 AM, Sweats said: Recently, jurors have come out on record saying that the not guilty verdict in the OJ trial was a retaliation for the Rodney King incident. This came out right after the trial.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, TH3 said: Meh….Have you been on a jury? You are taking a very specific case and broadly generalizing…. Got a better idea? Yes, i've sat on a jury........what else you got? 16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This came out right after the trial.... Yes, it came out after the trial and just came out again with more detail after OJ's death.......what else you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Any updates? Or is he still… you know… 💀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Sweats said: Yes, i've sat on a jury........what else you got? Yes, it came out after the trial and just came out again with more detail after OJ's death.......what else you got? not sure what you're looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Wow, I saw that this thread got bumped to the top and immediately opened it to make sure he's still dead. Id love norm MacDonald to come back to life and update us... "OJ Simpson still dead." Edited May 16 by boyst 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Wow, I saw that this thread got bumped to the top and immediately opened it to make sure he's still dead. Bring out your dead, clank…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Wow, I saw that this thread got bumped to the top and immediately opened it to make sure he's still dead. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 5 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Wow, I saw that this thread got bumped to the top and immediately opened it to make sure he's still dead. Nope still dead, didn't fake his death in an elaborate plan to catch the real killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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