Process Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) Edited March 10 by Process 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Not a surprise. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Oh wow what a shock 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) Weak deal…should have gotten at least $30 mil per Edited March 10 by JaCrispy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 There are some KC fans who will give tips of their fingers for KC Kings to keep the throne given to them by NFL. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Weak deal…should have gotten at least $30 mil per I don’t think the AAV is out there, is it? The 95M is the guaranteed part. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Least surprising move of the offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 The fact that it's 5 years suggests to me that this was a Chiefs-friendly deal, but we shall see soon enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 He's as important on that team as anyone not named Mahomes & Kelce. Kind of bummed he'll be there awhile, but certainly a smart move for them to do this. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Glad it's the highest ever. If they're going to have great players I want them to pay through the teeth. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 😪 NOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Curious to see what the signing bonus is. Cap specialists that know more than me can correct if wrong, but pretty sure they'll be able to spread that out over the five years even though they'll likely have an easy way out after 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 He's their lynch pin. Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Hate this. Guy was the best player on either side of the field against the Bills and in the Super Bowl and should have been the unanimous MVP. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Einstein said: One of the few times KC’s front office really botched a situation. Why would you franchise him at nearly $23M last year just to give him a record breaking $19M deal the following year? I’m sure they lost sleep over that on their way to 2 SB rings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Wow KC’s FO couldn’t round it up to 100m? What a way to treat the best defensive player in the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Just now, QB Bills said: Hate this. Guy was the best player on either side of the field against the Bills and in the Super Bowl and should have been the unanimous MVP. Agreed. He should have been Super Bowl MVP. He turns 30 in a few months though. We can only hope this turns into a Von Miller situation where he loses it in a couple years. 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’m sure they lost sleep over that on their way to 2 SB rings They would have had those rings even if they gave him this deal last year. I have no idea why they played hard ball with him last offseason, which pissed him off so much that he sat out games (though he clearly got over it), just to give him a record setting deal less than 8 months later. I guess I don’t see the benefit in that. I would have given him this deal last year, is my point. Alls well that ends well I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 95 guaranteed over "5 years." Probably means it's looking like a 3 year, 32.5 mil per year roughly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Atleast between sneed and jones staying they used up a lot of their cap space 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 1 minute ago, Pbomb said: Atleast between sneed and jones staying they used up a lot of their cap space They're trading Sneed, likely for a 2nd rounder. Would give them four picks in first three rounds, two of which will likely be a WR. Edited March 10 by beebe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1M in cap space but managed to pull this off! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Quite the hometown discount. This barely buts Jones in top 10 for DT contracts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 19 minutes ago, Einstein said: Agreed. He should have been Super Bowl MVP. He turns 30 in a few months though. We can only hope this turns into a Von Miller situation where he loses it in a couple years. They would have had those rings even if they gave him this deal last year. I have no idea why they played hard ball with him last offseason, which pissed him off so much that he sat out games (though he clearly got over it), just to give him a record setting deal less than 8 months later. I guess I don’t see the benefit in that. I would have given him this deal last year, is my point. Alls well that ends well I guess. Pissed him off so bad last offseason that he was the best defender in the game this year .. and then he signed up to play out the rest of his career if they want him that long.. No idea how they “botched “ anything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) The way the salary cap is forecasted - and at this rate, there's a good chance it will be higher than current projections - Jones' contract will count 11% max against KC's payroll in Year 3. If the Chiefs didn't retain him, they'd have to spend quite a lot to get new interior DL for probably half the production Jones currently gives them. Edited March 10 by beebe 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 8 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Quite the hometown discount. This barely buts Jones in top 10 for DT contracts. The bottom of the whole tweet says the deal is the highest DT contract ..the total value isn’t stated ..just the guaranteed 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 36 minutes ago, beebe said: They're trading Sneed, likely for a 2nd rounder. Would give them four picks in first three rounds, two of which will likely be a WR. Ya but then they lose a key piece of their defense atleast . Either way it sucks, hopefully they start to draft more CEH type players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce200 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 The cap is a myth. Somehow the Bills have to cut half the team but the Chiefs can pay MaHomes, Jones, Kielce huge contracts among others and tag Sneed, There even looking at acquiring Espensa. The Jets paid huge contracts to Roger’s and Williams and many others and are looking at bringing in a bunch of starting OL. Maybe I’m jumping the gun and there is a good plan but for me the 2024 season might be already over. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I love our team, and never doubt Beane for a second. He's the best GM we've had in decades. But it does seem like we're always a half step behind KC. Most of the rest of the league are a few steps behind them - but it almost doesn't matter that we're "closer." I'm not sure how we get over the hump & finally get past that team. All I can come up w/ is maybe one year we're a little healthier than they are when it counts, and that we get a little hotter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 57 minutes ago, Einstein said: I have no idea why they played hard ball with him last offseason, which pissed him off so much that he sat out games (though he clearly got over it), just to give him a record setting deal less than 8 months later. I guess I don’t see the benefit in that. I would have given him this deal last year, is my point. Alls well that ends well I guess. The cap increased this year might have something to do with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Bruce200 said: The cap is a myth. Somehow the Bills have to cut half the team but the Chiefs can pay MaHomes, Jones, Kielce huge contracts among others and tag Sneed, There even looking at acquiring Espensa. The Jets paid huge contracts to Roger’s and Williams and many others and are looking at bringing in a bunch of starting OL. Maybe I’m jumping the gun and there is a good plan but for me the 2024 season might be already over. The Bills cut those old guys so they can buy a couple of players … They won’t be of this guys quality though …but at least the Chiefs aren’t adding him to the team …so it doesn’t make them any better … Haven’t heard they are interested in AJE … who is saying that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 12 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: The Bills cut those old guys so they can buy a couple of players … They won’t be of this guys quality though …but at least the Chiefs aren’t adding him to the team …so it doesn’t make them any better … Haven’t heard they are interested in AJE … who is saying that ? Nobody credible. Think a Chiefs blogger suggested him as a possible KC offseason signing. They likely need another pass rusher with the expected departure of Mike Danna and Charles Omenihu out till midseason with injury. They currently have Karlaftis and the rookie FAU who they essentially redshirted last year. They need a vet to carry some of the burden till November. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 14 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: The Bills cut those old guys so they can buy a couple of players … They won’t be of this guys quality though …but at least the Chiefs aren’t adding him to the team …so it doesn’t make them any better … Haven’t heard they are interested in AJE … who is saying that ? A KC Analyst who seems to have Kings ears suggested they target AJE. https://heavy.com/sports/kansas-city-chiefs/nfl-free-agency-aj-epenesa-bills/ Quote ansas City Chiefs general manager Brett Veach has often found value in free agency since taking over in 2017. With a nod toward that strength, Arrowhead Pride analyst Caleb James highlighted three potential Chiefs free agent targets that could end up signing a one-year, “prove-it” contract in 2024. And one suggestion would take from the AFC rival Buffalo Bills. “The Buffalo Bills have purged their roster so far this offseason to comply with the NFL salary cap,” James outlined. “While they made a slew of notable cuts, it is also likely that they will have several players leave in free agency. A.J. Epenesa is one of the players who fall into this category.” Like most teams Kings look deeply at any player who makes play against them and AJE's tipping of ball to himself is certainly one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce200 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 https://heavy.com/sports/kansas-city-chiefs/nfl-free-agency-aj-epenesa-bills/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beebe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 20 minutes ago, Success said: I love our team, and never doubt Beane for a second. He's the best GM we've had in decades. But it does seem like we're always a half step behind KC. Most of the rest of the league are a few steps behind them - but it almost doesn't matter that we're "closer." I'm not sure how we get over the hump & finally get past that team. All I can come up w/ is maybe one year we're a little healthier than they are when it counts, and that we get a little hotter. Easiest answer: String together a few great drafts, starting now. Chiefs had depth in waves last year at LB, CB, safety, and enough along the DL to overcome Omenihu's absence in the Super Bowl. Need to avoid having a weak link or two by any means necessary. That's why KC is confident they'll be fine letting Sneed walk. They will still have four CBs that they trust to hold up just fine in coverage and not get picked on. Where KC had zero depth was at wide receiver. They thought they had it when camp broke and that proved to be very wrong. Their young receivers all underachieved. Hardman, Moore, Toney, James, Watson all had injuries at some point in the year. MVS was complete ass. Ross got suspended. They became a very easy offense to defend until Rice's snap count soared late in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam727 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 5 years $160mil is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 It’s funny how Shaq Lawson was a consensus first round pick and Jones was a projected late 1st-early 2nd. Had we picked Jones at 19 with Lawson still on the board everyone would’ve been up in arms. Fast forward to 7 years later… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 No surprise here. KC would've been crazy to not bring him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Brand J said: It’s funny how Shaq Lawson was a consensus first round pick and Jones was a projected late 1st-early 2nd. Had we picked Jones at 19 with Lawson still on the board everyone would’ve been up in arms. Fast forward to 7 years later… Every team overlooked Jones at least once if he went in the second round 26 minutes ago, Punching Bag said: A KC Analyst who seems to have Kings ears suggested they target AJE. https://heavy.com/sports/kansas-city-chiefs/nfl-free-agency-aj-epenesa-bills/ Like most teams Kings look deeply at any player who makes play against them and AJE's tipping of ball to himself is certainly one. They expect to sign him on the cheap it seems … I think they would need to get to $10m a year … otherise he might be back with the Bills .. Edited March 10 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Every team overlooked Jones at least once if he went in the second round They expect to sign him on the cheap it seems … I think they would need to get to $10m a year … otherise he might be back with the Bills .. Like Beane expectation that the Kings to try to get a bunch of B+ players at lower cost for rotation and they will not be looking for one player but player A or player B or player C. IMO from his family history EJ will not take it on the cheap to get a ring but may take an incentive tied deal to bet on himself. I do hope he comes back to Buffalo for every football team needs a Samoan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlton Bills Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Success said: He's as important on that team as anyone not named Mahomes & Kelce. Kind of bummed he'll be there awhile, but certainly a smart move for them to do this. Hopefully it means they don’t get Austin Ekler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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