DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 7 minutes ago, LEBills said: https://atozsports.com/nashville/alabama-wr-jermaine-burton-with-female-fan-end-of-tennessee/ And Jerry and Brenden don’t have a great relationship so don’t know if that would happen lol I think Jerry was at the Senior Bowl but not sure if that was to watch him or networking or whatever (I actually have no idea if Jerry works for the media or anything lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Whkfc said: When do the receivers start? They're currently doing the vert and broad jumps but it isn't being shown on TV. I'll list some of the measurements for the notable guys below, but here's a link for the vert and broad: https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/vertical-jump/wr/all-colleges/ https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/broad-jump/wr/all-colleges/ Verts: Xavier Legette - 40" Adonai Mitchell - 39.5" Troy Franklin - 39" Jermaine Burton - 38.5" Keon Coleman - 38" Jalen McMillan - 37" Javon Baker - 37" Jacob Cowing - 36" Ladd McConkey - 36" Broad: Adonai Mitchell - 11'4" Jermaine Burton - 11'1" Keon Coleman - 10'7" Jalen McMillan - 10'7" Xavier Legette - 10'6" Troy Franklin - 10'4" Ladd McConkey - 10'4" Javon Baker - 10'1" Jacob Cowing - 9'11" Edited March 2 by DCOrange 2 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: They're currently doing the vert but it isn't being shown on TV. Jalen Coker (Holy Cross) - 42.5" Ryan Flournoy (SE Missouri St.) - 39.5" Troy Franklin (Oregon) - 39" Jermaine Burton (Alabama) - 38.5" Keon Coleman (Florida St.) - 38" Javon Baker (UCF) - 37" Jacob Cowing (Arizona) - 36" Baker is so interesting. Metrics wise he is good against man and zone coverage. His jump ball ability is really good as he can jump well off both the left or right foot - Brad Steven used to tell a story he knew Gordon Hayward could be a good basketball player because he could jump will with both his left and right foot leading and Baker have that same awesome jumping ability. But a 10+% drop rate in back to back seasons is tough (thank you for your spreadsheet with that data btw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 9 minutes ago, LEBills said: Baker is so interesting. Metrics wise he is good against man and zone coverage. His jump ball ability is really good as he can jump well off both the left or right foot - Brad Steven used to tell a story he knew Gordon Hayward could be a good basketball player because he could jump will with both his left and right foot leading and Baker have that same awesome jumping ability. But a 10+% drop rate in back to back seasons is tough (thank you for your spreadsheet with that data btw) He reminds me so much of a young Stef on tape. He just always seems to separate. He isn't super fast but he understands the nuances of route running and coverage and he gets open. Agree though the drops are concerning. I have a high 3 on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Is Malachi Corley at the combine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Whkfc Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 16 minutes ago, LEBills said: Baker is so interesting. Metrics wise he is good against man and zone coverage. His jump ball ability is really good as he can jump well off both the left or right foot - Brad Steven used to tell a story he knew Gordon Hayward could be a good basketball player because he could jump will with both his left and right foot leading and Baker have that same awesome jumping ability. But a 10+% drop rate in back to back seasons is tough (thank you for your spreadsheet with that data btw) I would say I think he's gonna be a steal but I think everyone is on to him. I thought a 4th round steal now I'm thinking he may go late second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 28 minutes ago, DCOrange said: They're currently doing the vert and broad jumps but it isn't being shown on TV. I'll list some of the measurements for the notable guys below, but here's a link for the vert and broad: https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/vertical-jump/wr/all-colleges/ https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/broad-jump/wr/all-colleges/ Verts: Xavier Legette - 40" Adonai Mitchell - 39.5" Troy Franklin - 39" Jermaine Burton - 38.5" Keon Coleman - 38" Jalen McMillan - 37" Javon Baker - 37" Jacob Cowing - 36" Ladd McConkey - 36" Broad: Adonai Mitchell - 11'4" Jermaine Burton - 11'1" Keon Coleman - 10'7" Jalen McMillan - 10'7" Xavier Legette - 10'6" Troy Franklin - 10'4" Ladd McConkey - 10'4" Javon Baker - 10'1" Jacob Cowing - 9'11" AD Mitchell! Can he run a sub 4.4?! Legette too! Edited March 2 by Warriorspikes51 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) I love that this thread serves as a one stop shopping kind of place for opinions and chat regarding the combine I had a chat acquaintance once who was NFL affilliated who used to call the Combine "The Underwear Olympics" lol it always stuck with me . Great visual. all the stats and such are Bonus. 🙂 Edited March 2 by muppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 7 minutes ago, mannc said: Is Malachi Corley at the combine? He was supposed to be. I know he skipped the measurements but not sure if he's skipping athletic testing/drills too. He did measure at 5'10.5" and 215 at the Senior Bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: Give me Estime day 3. I’d be happy with him late day 3 but I’d prefer Dillon Johnson. Love the way he runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: AD Mitchell! Can he run a sub 4.4?! Legette too! AD Mitchell is so intriguing Coleman as well Colman may need a year then be a top guy. Any word on qb hand sizes? 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Stacey Dales looks like she wants nothing to do with Jamie Erdahl sharing camera time and space with her 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 minutes ago, Whkfc said: AD Mitchell is so intriguing Coleman as well Colman may need a year then be a top guy. Any word on qb hand sizes? 🤣🤣🤣 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pbgXALH2Ld6TqvXCiBZC7dWnoN2s8J5-2OrpZUOl1HA/edit?pli=1#gid=1531643954 Hand sizes are included in this spreadsheet. JJ McCarthy had the smallest at 9". Drake Maye was 9.125". Penix had the largest hands at 10.5". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pbgXALH2Ld6TqvXCiBZC7dWnoN2s8J5-2OrpZUOl1HA/edit?pli=1#gid=1531643954 Hand sizes are included in this spreadsheet. JJ McCarthy had the smallest at 9". Drake Maye was 9.125". Penix had the largest hands at 10.5". You are too on top of this. Respect There is joke in there somewhere with Penix at 10.25 but I just can't quite figure it out. Edited March 2 by Whkfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I've seen him listed as a 2nd round target for the Bills... I know instincts matter more for safeties but this is putrid. In the 5th round I'd be fine with the pick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) Here go the wrs 40 4.54 Javon Baker 4.46 Burton 4.64 Coleman 4.41 Franklin Edited March 2 by Whkfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) Here we go with Coleman… 4.64 isn’t awful for a guy his size but you want more juice for sure. 4.5s would have been nice Edited March 2 by gonzo1105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, gonzo1105 said: Here we go with Coleman Slowwww Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Yeah...if that's the best Coleman is able to do he's getting bumped out of the first round. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Wow Coleman just plummeted from a mid 1st to a third rounder! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 33 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He reminds me so much of a young Stef on tape. He just always seems to separate. He isn't super fast but he understands the nuances of route running and coverage and he gets open. Agree though the drops are concerning. I have a high 3 on him. I like Baker, but would 60 be too high? I suspect so, but he won’t be available at 99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, Charles Romes said: Wow Coleman just plummeted from a mid 1st to a third rounder! No he didn’t haha he’s a 2nd round guy even with that time. He’s almost 6’4 215 pounds he has like 20 to 40 pounds on most of these guys of course he’s going to run slower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Franklin with a 4.41 isn't bad at all. For some reason I thought he was taller though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, Charles Romes said: Wow Coleman just plummeted from a mid 1st to a third rounder! I think that’s too extreme, but 4.64 isn’t surprising from his game tape and it doesn’t help for sure. 1 minute ago, H2o said: Franklin with a 4.41 isn't bad at all. For some reason I thought he was taller though. Basically, 6’2” is plenty tall, but 176lbs - ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Glad Coleman had a slower 40 time. Increases the changes he falls to us in 1st. Franklin is a string bean. Needs to put on some serious weight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: No he didn’t haha he’s a 2nd round guy even with that time. He’s almost 6’4 215 pounds he has like 20 to 40 pounds on most of these guys of course he’s going to run slower I never had Coleman at #28 as a target. Thomas, Mitchell, Franklin, and Legette are the fellas I like. I counted Thomas as likely gone, but I was hoping for Mitchell. Now I think you may need to trade up for either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Glad Coleman had a slower 40 time. Increases the changes he falls to us in 1st. Franklin is a string bean. Needs to put on some serious weight DeVonta Smith is 170lbs. He's pretty good. Pass on Coleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Just now, Dr. Who said: I never had Coleman at #28 as a target. Thomas, Mitchell, Franklin, and Legette are the fellas I like. I counted Thomas as likely gone, but I was hoping for Mitchell. Now I think you may need to trade up for If anything it just goes to show what flavor of WR do you want. I thought Franklin was the best fit but he came in extremely light and 2 inches shorter. I’m interested to see what Mitchell runs because I do think the Bills would prefer a bigger guy if possible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 minutes ago, H2o said: Franklin with a 4.41 isn't bad at all. For some reason I thought he was taller though. They all lie about their heights and weights. Everyone shrinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 3 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Glad Coleman had a slower 40 time. Increases the changes he falls to us in 1st. Franklin is a string bean. Needs to put on some serious weight he doesn’t fit what we need IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4.47 in the neighborhood of what I thought Legette would run. I never thought 4.3 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Serious question, why do they not have punters and kickers at the combine? I feel like this should be a thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 McConkey faster than Legette is going to surprise some people lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: 4.47 in the neighborhood of what I thought Legette would run. I never thought 4.3 range. Sheesh - Mitchell is FAR faster than I thought. That has to put him in 1st round consideration. I did not think he was that fast from the games I watched. Edited March 2 by OldTimer1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4.35 for Adonai Mitchell, holy hell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4.35 for AD Mitchel wow that will raise his stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Mitchell just shot up draft boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4.47 for Leggette. 4.35 for Adonai Mitchell tho 🔥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I had McConkey at # 5 in my WR rankings and I feel better about that now. Mitchell’s tape doesn’t look 4.35 but gotta respect it from a guy his size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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