Ayjent Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I’ll get excited once I see what they do in the draft. We’ll see if they’ve truly adapted or are just repeating their past approach. That will be evident in where they put the draft capital and how many picks they end up with actually filling the roster. I know they have holes on the D, but it’s a bit of an indictment of how flawed the past emphasis on that side has been when it comes to results when it matters most and how they are in the position of having so many holes despite the heavy investment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I mean this narrative that they only spend draft capital on defense.... there is some truth to that in terms of first rounders. It is 7 on defense 2 on offense. They did obviously trade a first rounder for a receiver too, so 7 and 3 if you factor that in. But then it's 9 offense and 5 defense of their 14 day two picks. On day 3 picks it is 15 offense, 13 defense, 2 specialists. I don't think there has been a problematic over commitment to defense in terms of draft capital. I think the one big issue draft capital wise is they have under emphasised receiver. To have had 6 drafts (since 2018) without taking a receiver in the first two days..... there is only one other team in the NFL that have not picked a receiver in the first two days of the draft in that same period (major kudos points to anyone who can get the other team without googling btw). That has been a major oversight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 don't we always hope for the best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 15 hours ago, LabattBlue said: 1 - What do you propose we do to “support the staff”? 2 - I don’t think OBD gives a rats a$$ what I think about the team. I’m done with this team and moving to Thailand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 You can support and critique at the same time. I can want a new HC and wish McDermott success at the same time. Because I am so effusive in my critique of him I have tried harder to point out the good things he does. Ie promoting Babich from within and letting Johnson get the final carries in the Steelers game to reward a player for hard work. I hope all fans of our team wish them only the best. Even during the bleakest of times I can not recall ever rooting for them to lose even if it meant a better draft position. I just can't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Did the new staff send me any free tickets this year? No So screw em ' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I'm not concerned at all with the DC or OC signings. We've already seen the improvement to the offense made by Brady despite being saddled with Dorsey's playbook and concepts, so I expect good things from him. And Babich has been considered a hot, up-and-coming positional coach for awhile. Best case scenario? He has some fresh original ideas and playcalling that takes our defense to new heights, while allowing McD added space to focus on overall in game management. Worst case scenario? He struggles and McDermott takes over playcalling and we roll out a top-10 defense as we always do during the McD era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 19 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: They say if you hope for the best but expect the worst, then you will never be disappointed.. The disappointment is where its at! 18 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said: This fan base is just so worn out, every year it’s just blind support and hope for so many. I guess that’s why Pegula feels no pressure to actually win a Super Bowl. For Terry hope is just as profitable as doing what it takes for Super Bowl level success. But sure, just run it back the same again and hope we get lucky some year. Sounds like a good plan. Go Bills. Fire everyone every year until they win, otherwise it is blind faith that the guys from last year could maybe get lucky. Are you a guy that fires guys at halftime? Edited February 1 by Matt_In_NH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To have had 6 drafts (since 2018) without taking a receiver in the first two days..... there is only one other team in the NFL that have not picked a receiver in the first two days of the draft in that same period (major kudos points to anyone who can get the other team without googling btw). Rams? My mind went there first just because they haven't had a lot of picks in those rounds lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Rams? My mind went there first just because they haven't had a lot of picks in those rounds lately. Good guess. Nope. Tutu Atwell was a day 2 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I mean this narrative that they only spend draft capital on defense.... there is some truth to that in terms of first rounders. It is 7 on defense 2 on offense. They did obviously trade a first rounder for a receiver too, so 7 and 3 if you factor that in. But then it's 9 offense and 5 defense of their 14 day two picks. On day 3 picks it is 15 offense, 13 defense, 2 specialists. I don't think there has been a problematic over commitment to defense in terms of draft capital. I think the one big issue draft capital wise is they have under emphasised receiver. To have had 6 drafts (since 2018) without taking a receiver in the first two days..... there is only one other team in the NFL that have not picked a receiver in the first two days of the draft in that same period (major kudos points to anyone who can get the other team without googling btw). That has been a major oversight. Hmmm...bucs jags bears or giants But I don't know when Chark Godwin and Mooney were drafted and which round. Edit...just remembered the giants drafted Robinson Edited February 1 by Process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 18 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He will anyway. Only Diggs, Shakir and Shorter are under contract. Harty too. Everyone on here has forgotten he is still under contract next year. That being said he carries a $5.57M cap hit so I doubt we will keep him for that. My guess is we see a patented Brandon Beane pay cut down to something more reasonable, maybe $3.5M with a $1M void year in 2025 similar to what we did with Tim Settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 It's not a new staff. It's the same group of guys that have been on the staff for years. The Bills are doubling down on "their guys," and nothing will change until Josh demands a trade after 2025. 18 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Frazier called the plays. I don't think Babich will. Brady will be what he was the 2nd half of this season. But he will have the spring and summer to install his version of this offense. I thought it was known that McDermott called the defense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 18 minutes ago, Process said: Hmmm...bucs jags bears or giants But I don't know when Chark Godwin and Mooney were drafted and which round. Edit...just remembered the giants drafted Robinson It is the Buccs, yep. Godwin in 2017 was their last high receiver pick. 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Harty too. Everyone on here has forgotten he is still under contract next year. That being said he carries a $5.57M cap hit so I doubt we will keep him for that. My guess is we see a patented Brandon Beane pay cut down to something more reasonable, maybe $3.5M with a $1M void year in 2025 similar to what we did with Tim Settle. True but I think they will straight out cut him. Looks like they think Hines might be back to return. 12 minutes ago, uticaclub said: I thought it was known that McDermott called the defense Nope. Frazier called the defense 2017-2022. This past year was the first time McDermott called the D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 hours ago, Putin said: I’m done with this team and moving to Thailand Or you could always go “Back to the USSR” 😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 is there another option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Toward the end of the season I heard guys like Eisen & Cowherd say nobody wants to play the Bills. Well to be quite honest I personally know 2 teams that love to play the Bills. I was disappointed we haven't yet moved on from McDermott. And yes I understand his supporters and the reasoning behind keeping him around for continuity. We as fans vow to keep fighting for our team in our own way. But I've lately appreciated being involved more in my family than waiting for this team to break my heart for the 50th time. The motto "one before I die" will always reign true. But so will "family comes first". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 (edited) Interesting stat. There were 17 changes in Off/Def Coordinators not due to a change in head coach. Of the 17 only 5 were internal hires. Buffalo was 2 of those 5. So excluding the Bills only 3 of 15 were internal. Internal Hires: BUFx2, CIN, LAR, BAL External Hires: PHIx2, CHIx2, PIT, TB, GB, MIA, NO, CLE, NYG, JAC Edited February 6 by ngbills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 We're going nowhere with this coaching staff. That's why this one didn't hurt as much, saw it coming a mile away. I'm resigned to another Divisional Round exit next year. Lather, rinse, repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 1/31/2024 at 1:51 PM, SoonerBillsFan said: I get it. I get the angst, frustration, sadness, depression, anger and flat out rage at our season ending AGAIN in a Divisional playoff game. I have been a fan since Jim Kelly joined the team in 1986' so I get it. I was so pissed that Simon had to get in my ass for venting 110X or more in 24 hours, so I understand. This is our team, and we love them. We love them so much they raise us to heaven or send us straight to hell depending on the outcome of a game or a season. We cant not and will not quit. We have two new coordinators that we all pray will make some needed changes for this coming season that will get us over the hump. We hope Coach McDermott and Brandon Beane understand we must get Josh better weapons and we must shore up the deficiencies on the DL. Many draft picks, FA acquisitions just haven't panned out. We will also need at least 1 more safety and maybe a CB or two. But... Brandon Beane really has nailed some draft picks lately, last year especially. I hope he better understands how to evaluate and scout for what we need and from last years first two picks, I have to believe he has. McDermott hopefully will let go of the reigns a little and let the new coordinator's do their thing. Faith is a very hard thing to come by in the best of times, and really hard when we are Bills fans. But we must BILLieve that this coming year we turn the corner and finally get to the big show and win it. What new staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 2/1/2024 at 1:15 PM, GunnerBill said: Nope. Frazier called the defense 2017-2022. This past year was the first time McDermott called the D. McDermott did take over at halftime of the Vonte Davis retirement game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, mannc said: What new staff? New Coordinators. They are new being official and full time in their jobs. Brady is supposed to implement his offense vs. Trying to continue Dabols, or a version of Dabol's, offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Low Positive said: McDermott did take over at halftime of the Vonte Davis retirement game. He did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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