Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Anyone have idea what is going on with our punt team? We had two near blocks on punts. Just a total jail break both times. i feel like Sam Martin has a slow release, which also doesn’t help. Really need to clean this up. I don’t care if special teams is mediocre; it just can’t create negative plays. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 That’s been the way since we got him… Isn’t going to change any time soon if at all. Think there’s a different guy trying to pin teams deep next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Agreed special teams makes me nervous. Harty has been sure handed which is nice and the kick team has been solid. Bass is coming back around too but man punt team is bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 There is an easy solution for this... 1 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 That was definitely a game changer from 7-7 to 14-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: Agreed special teams makes me nervous. Harty has been sure handed which is nice and the kick team has been solid. Bass is coming back around too but man punt team is bad It’s interesting you mention Bass. He’s developed a serious slice on his kicks. I see other guys drill the thing straight as an arrow. I wonder if it’s intentional with Bass or if it’s something he’s trying to fix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 We got extremely luck on the roughing the kicker. We just let him through like no one understood to block him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 It's the Matt Araiza Curse 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Low Positive said: There is an easy solution for this... Sure is…definitely need a new special teams coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s interesting you mention Bass. He’s developed a serious slice on his kicks. I see other guys drill the thing straight as an arrow. I wonder if it’s intentional with Bass or if it’s something he’s trying to fix. I think he has always had it. Would call it more of a fade. I think that’s why he lines up on the left side for PATs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I wonder if it’s intentional with Bass or if it’s something he’s trying to fix. Trying to put backspin on the ball. Holds the green better. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: We got extremely luck on the roughing the kicker. We just let him through like no one understood to block him. the only reason he even roughed the kicker was he got through so fast and cleanly that he got there TOO early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Anyone have idea what is going on with our punt team? We had two near blocks on punts. Just a total jail break both times. i feel like Sam Martin has a slow release, which also doesn’t help. Really need to clean this up. I don’t care if special teams is mediocre; it just can’t create negative plays. I posted on the other special teams thread and I'll restate it here. Not sure if it was by design or player fault, however on the roughing call the up man (Hamlin I believe) scooted upfield right after the snap and there was no one inside to block there. Not sure about the first one as I haven't watched it back yet, but definitely saw that on the replays of the second one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Anyone have idea what is going on with our punt team? We had two near blocks on punts. Just a total jail break both times. i feel like Sam Martin has a slow release, which also doesn’t help. Really need to clean this up. I don’t care if special teams is mediocre; it just can’t create negative plays. The entire punting operation is poor. McDermott needs to find another ST coordinator this offseason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The strange part is the almost punt block was like one of the biggest turning points of the game. If it gets blocked, we are in trouble. Not only did he get it off, was a good punt and got the penalty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Don't flare the personal protector right and we can pick up guys if they break through...or, just effing block the rusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Anyone have idea what is going on with our punt team? We had two near blocks on punts. Just a total jail break both times. i feel like Sam Martin has a slow release, which also doesn’t help. Really need to clean this up. I don’t care if special teams is mediocre; it just can’t create negative plays. Get on the 1950s blower! Get the Punt God back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: The strange part is the almost punt block was like one of the biggest turning points of the game. If it gets blocked, we are in trouble. Not only did he get it off, was a good punt and got the penalty No doubt. In real time, I thought for a split second that the punt was blocked, then was amazed to see a decent boot downfield by Martin. Watching the replay, it was even more amazing. It truly was the perfect storm of events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 If my memory is correct Gillian slide to help out on his right which wasn’t needed letting the Cowboy player to come straight up the middle. That’s simple execution and has to be cleaned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbowman14 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 58 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Don't flare the personal protector right and we can pick up guys if they break through...or, just effing block the rusher Agree. That was insane. I think Hamlin (the personal protector) was correct in executing the play call as he looped around immediately to go into downfield coverage. Why you would have the personal protector do that is beyond anything I understand as it completely opens up a direct line to the punter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 No more punting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: Get on the 1950s blower! Get the Punt God back! Paul Maguire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, clayboy54 said: Paul Maguire? Anybody, but this too slow to kick and untrusted result question mark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I'm honestly surprised this hasent been addressed to some degree. Martin is mediocre at best, and teams are starting to figure out they can probably block his punts. I know he holds for bass, but I'm surprised they haven't brought another punter in for the practice squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The problem is the blocking, not Martin. Matt Smiley needs a fire under his butt to get that fixed. Either by scheme or player performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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