BuffaloBill Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 No doubt PFF gets its fair share of skepticism here and it may well be deserved. However, they are helping to confirm what many Bills fans can see via eye tests. They have stolen an excellent CB and who fits like a sleek glove into their scheme. 17 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 just start taking secondary players from GB via trade or FA! 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 I'm glad we added an aggressive cb who is always looking to make a play on the ball. Hopefully we can sign him long-term. 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Tre White replacement 😢 5 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: just start taking secondary players from GB via trade or FA! In my mind, Green Bay's in Carolina... 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 You know, I always liked PFF 1 1 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: No doubt PFF gets its fair share of skepticism here and it may well be deserved. However, they are helping to confirm what many Bills fans can see via eye tests. They have stolen an excellent CB and who fits like a sleek glove into their scheme. I'll say it, he is an upgrade from Tre. Edited December 14, 2023 by SoonerBillsFan 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: I'm glad we added an aggressive cb who is always looking to make a play on the ball. Hopefully we can sign him long-term. I think there are decent odds that we do that. Because of the trade, Douglas' last year of his contract is entirely non-guaranteed. The Bills have excellent leverage to actually decrease his cap hit next year by signing him to an extension. 10 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Tre White replacement 😢 I don't know if Tre is completely gone, but I think we need to accept that even if he makes it back next year he absolutely not be at 100% speed. Losing him is a real possibility and he'll be an effective #2 at least for another year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 I don't need PFF to tell me that he's been a good pickup. He has helped stabilize the defense, he's a perfect scheme fit and he should continue to be the starting DB for the Bills not just for the rest of this year but beyond. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I think there are decent odds that we do that. Because of the trade, Douglas' last year of his contract is entirely non-guaranteed. The Bills have excellent leverage to actually decrease his cap hit next year by signing him to an extension. I don't know if Tre is completely gone, but I think we need to accept that even if he makes it back next year he absolutely not be at 100% speed. Losing him is a real possibility and he'll be an effective #2 at least for another year. With those injuries amd that contract? Sorry but it's a business and they have to reach an injury settlement and move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Douglas gives us size to match up against great TEs as well. I like how they used him against Kelce early in the game to stunt early production. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 douglas and josheph coming in and bing day one upgrades who improve our entire D makes me wonder about the other guys we pay money too on our roster. D jones is nasty, but the DTs behind him are really below replacement. we trotted levi wallace out as cb2 for how many games? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said: With those injuries amd that contract? Sorry but it's a business and they have to reach an injury settlement and move on Unless I am wrong, the Bills do not get that much cap space for cutting him. From quick math, I think that the gains of even a half season injury settlement would effectively be swallowed by the looming dead cap. So, do we lose a veteran and open a hole for $10 of cap space in 2025? Or do we muddle and use him as depth in a platoon of Douglas, Benford and Elam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Douglas has been better than advertised for us. Was definitely one of Beane's better moves over the last few years. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 What's Douglasses contract sitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, pi2000 said: What's Douglasses contract sitch? 1 year 9M left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, pi2000 said: What's Douglasses contract sitch? 12 minutes ago, NewEra said: 1 year 9M left Importantly, none of it is guaranteed. His deal with GB was ~$7M per year though backloaded as is common. I think it's quite possible to throw on 2-3 years of an extension at a similar or lesser rate and reset next year to be maybe half of that 9M 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Curious to see how he handled being matched up with Lamb this week. He did great against Kelce in the first half last week, but then seemed to not cover him as much in the second half. Not sure what that was about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 50 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I don't know if Tre is completely gone, but I think we need to accept that even if he makes it back next year he absolutely not be at 100% speed. Losing him is a real possibility and he'll be an effective #2 at least for another year. The only way Tre is coming back next season is if he's released and comes back under a new contract that is all incentive laden. We have an out on his contract after this year that we have to take. You can't continue to pay him the contract we signed him to before his injury in the state he is in now. Especially when we're massively over the cap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said: No doubt PFF gets its fair share of skepticism here and it may well be deserved. However, they are helping to confirm what many Bills fans can see via eye tests. They have stolen an excellent CB and who fits like a sleek glove into their scheme. This was a huge pick up that I didn’t really think much of at the time. Might’ve saved our season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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