QB Bills Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He's completely useless out there. Getting Aaron Maybin PTSD flashbacks on the regular. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: At what point is Von a liability. Right now. He is a liability right now. Every time he is on the field it’s 11 on offense vs 10 on our defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Thought he had the odd moment last week … but he was bad tonight… he gets moved around and out of the play like he is a boy playing against men… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 When Epenesa is ready to play, Von needs to sit. He played way too many plays tonite. And was useless. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He did sorta get a pressure on Poona's sack, though Oliver impacted the play more. Von drove the RT back into the QB & forced him to step up to avoid the collision, he then had to avoid Oliver & Poona cleaned it up. But other than that play, Von is a total non-factor as a pass rusher. I know he was credited with a tackle tonight, but I don't remember seeing it. He should not be playing, especially on money downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) I was watching him closely. Von can't bend the edge. No spin move. He makes it very easy to block him . He’s not scaring the opposing lineman. Same rush move every time. Von looks like a shell of himself out there. I think he came back too soon Edited December 24, 2023 by BillMafia716ix 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I simply don't understand why he's on the field when the bills have to win out. I know I'm not the only one that sees him stop, stand up, and just stand there if he sees its a run play away from him. And thats what scares me, that's not his knee. He's not giving any effort unless he can sellout on a pass play. Absolutely terrible 6 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said: I simply don't understand why he's on the field when the bills have to win out. I know I'm not the only one that sees him stop, stand up, and just stand there if he sees its a run play away from him. And thats what scares me, that's not his knee. He's not giving any effort unless he can sellout on a pass play. Absolutely terrible That's no different. He's essentially said as much before he got hurt. On the plus, he's stopped circumnavigating the globe to get to the QB. At least he's providing a little containment now. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Von sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Somehow the box score credited him with a tackle today. Anyone remember it? Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Have been for a while now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He'll be fine. He's just waiting for the playoffs 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He is done. I don't see why we keep running him out there. Kingsley Jonathan seems like an upgrade at this point--at least he brings some energy and effort. I want to be wrong, but I don't see it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Bills Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 McD has got to be seeing his performance on tape. Several times the play comes right at him, as he is so easy to move. And just an initial couple steps and then - stops! And becomes a spectator!!! WTF? I agree with others = a total liability. he should not be out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Non Miller is terrible and shouldn’t even be wearing a jersey on the sideline. Anyone off the PS would give more than this clown is right now. It’s not just his play on the field that sucks. It’s his entire package. Not only does he suck, he looks like he’s giving less than zero effort out there. McD and Beane look like fools more and more every play he’s on the field. Just make this clown inactive for the Pats game. Maybe it will light a fire under him or something. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I was on the “Let Von play to get better train” but I think yesterday might be where I get off. That was pathetic. He’s basically just engaging and bull rushing .. and not even an effective bull rush at that. Im sure McDermott told him to contain rush, which is why he didn’t try to beat the OT to the edge a ton, but 75% of the time that just results in Von running off the screen and leaving a massive hole for a QB to escape through. Those can’t be our two options with him. Get AJE back out there when he’s ready and then rotate Von sparingly as the 5th DE behind Shaq. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 I feel like it’s similar to Tre White and Spencer Brown. The reps aren’t in his muscle memory and he doesn’t get enough snaps to get that closing feel by the end of the game. Von I love you but he’s not his usual self right now. He needs a full offseason to get his mind muscle connection right. Look what it did for Spencer Brown. Von is a physical freak and has not lost physically imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Watching him live, it’s clear that he simply doesn’t trust his knee right now. He’s playing like he’s on a frozen pond in the backyard. Every step is taken with an abundance of caution. No idea what the stupid coaching staff is thinking putting him out there. He’s nothing more than a paperweight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Von Miller should be replaced with an equivalent sphere of water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 8 hours ago, QB Bills said: He's completely useless out there. Getting Aaron Maybin PTSD flashbacks on the regular. I would be okay with getting him a ton of playing time if we had the Ravens’ or Patriots’ record… but we don’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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