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3 minutes ago, Brian Higgins hair said:

….Maybe, just maybe when you consistently miss on early round players like Basham, Elam, Epenesa, and destroy the cap by signing aging vets like Miller, Tre and Poyer, this is what happens. You are set up for heartbreak. 
missing on picks happens, but this consistency?

‘McDermott holds a lot of responsibility, but Beane is no GM god.

 

 

 

You honestly think Beane has all the say in who he drafts and signs?  I don’t. I think McD has his fingerprints all over this roster and nudges Beane on who to draft and get in here as FAs. Just look at the high picks on defense and all the FA dollars on that side of the ball. It has the stench of a defensive minded HC written all over it. 

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This roster is a contender, or on the cusp of such. It’s the results on the field where the issue is man. 
 

Of recent years all SB winners have whiffed on some very high picks. 
 

We’re upset about the results but the team has talent on both sides of the ball.

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4 minutes ago, Brian Higgins hair said:

….Maybe, just maybe when you consistently miss on early round players like Basham, Elam, Epenesa, and destroy the cap by signing aging vets like Miller, Tre and Poyer, this is what happens. You are set up for heartbreak. 
missing on picks happens, but this consistency?

‘McDermott holds a lot of responsibility, but Beane is no GM god.

 

 

 

I agree but this is because Beane is virtually powerless. McDermott is running and ruining this team, even with a generational talented quarterback.

 

Was Beane to blame for 10 penalties in the first half? Or 13 seconds? I don't think so. 

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2 minutes ago, McBean said:

lol!

 

Beane making picks and being a true GM…

 

People really believe he has power over Sean? 
 

hahahahahahahahah

 

If I remember correctly Terry said in an interview when they got hired that both men will report to him. Both Beane and McDermott have one boss in Terry. He also said at the time that Beane will have final say on all GM related matters and McDermott has it on coaching related matters. 

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3 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

You honestly think Beane has all the say in who he drafts and signs?  I don’t. I think McD has his fingerprints all over this roster and nudges Beane on who to draft and get in here as FAs. Just look at the high picks on defense and all the FA dollars on that side of the ball. It has the stench of a defensive minded HC written all over it. 

Not to mention changing players skill sets because he cannot adapt as a defensive coach. Like having Epenesa losing too much weight and being undersized for the position earlier in his career. Not playing guys that were drafted because he has serious trust issues starting rookies and 2nd year players. And trying to change someone like Elam to be something he’s not. 

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1 minute ago, Gregg said:

 

If I remember correctly Terry said in an interview when they got hired that both men will report to him. Both Beane and McDermott have one boss in Terry. He also said at the time that Beane will have final say on all GM related matters and McDermott has it on coaching related matters. 

 

And that is how it works. Beane runs personnel. On his draft picks he is ultimately accountable. I have spoken directly to one guy who has been in the building and through an intermediary to another - both confirmed that Beane is in charge of the draft and while McDermott and the coaching staff have input and influence the picks are Brandon Beane's. He isn't a puppet GM just picking who the coaches tell him. In fact both said the guy he listened to most of all on draft picks was Joe Schoen even above McDermott. 

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I understand we all have our pitchforks out right now, but Beane has been fantastic as a GM.

 

His draft hit rate is above average.

His creativity with the cap is above average.

His trades have been mostly good.

 

How do we go from "Beane is a wizard!" every off-season to saying he's a problem?

 

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Good lord.  It is right in front of everyone's face.  The Head Coach runs everything here, the GM works for him and he is the HC and DC who calls plays.  The players that come in here are his guys he wants.  Everything the organization is doing is what McDermott wants.

 

Time has proven that he is not worthy of all this credit.  He does not know how to close out a game and he repeatedly passes the buck.  His time has come.  It can not be any more obvious.

 

Your side of the ball which you are in complete control of has blown 3 games when handed the lead late.  They can not get stops to save their life.  They rush four play soft and give up huge chunks of yards everytime in this situation.  He also has the unique ability to call Blitzes at the wrong times and is pretty awful with calling timeouts in these situations.

 

If you want to have an authoritarian who is in charge of everything he should be someone that has closed the deal before.  If the organization wanted to have it run this way they should have done everything they could have to go get Sean Payton last February.  IMO Sean McDermott is not worthy of all this power and his time here is up.  

 

If you are worried about disrupting the team or something by firing him then you have not paid attention to the league.  Teams are bringing in new guys all the time and getting good results....at least the same results Buffalo has.  Look at what Brian Flores has done for Minnesota's defense in one half season so far.  There are defensive coordinators who are good at their job on every damn corner.  I am 100 % positive a new DC would be perfectly fine with what they will be handed on defense here even though there are changes coming on that side of the ball next year.  

 

This is the NFL not a hallmark movie.  You only get so many opportunities to show you can not figure it out before you are replaced.  Its time the head coach was replaced here.  There are some outstanding players on this team and they deserve a Better head coach and some world class coordinators.  This aww shucks hindsight is 20/20 and the qb played well enough to win the LAST TWO WEEKS crap is ridiculous. 

 

Mcdermott has gone from a possible long term head coach to a guy who seems to have not many contacts in the coaching business to work with him all of a sudden.  He is now the Buffalo Bills Jason Garrett.  If he is not replaced this exactly who he will be...a guy who is here just because they are afraid to make a change. 

 

I am not interested in anything McDermott says going forward.   I just simply do not care what he has to say.  His words mean little when he keeps taking the same math test and failing.  He is the head coach responsible for every part of the team as he wanted.  The special teams here are not good this year, he had to fire his OC and his own personal Defense he is coordinating and calling has a glass jaw late in games.  Nothing more needs to be said.  These are the situations when you make a change.

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8 hours ago, Cray51 said:

Didn’t Reid lose to the eagles last week?

The Steelers have one quality win on the season - the Ravens.  They have played weak teams, or good teams with bad situations (no Burrow for example).  Their absolute max is a division appearance this season.  And I do believe Tomlin is a top 5 coach in this league.  But they are lucky right now to be 7-4

Andy Reid doesn’t have the talent the bills have especially offense but most will argue this since we are under performing

 

or were I should say 

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11 hours ago, &lt;bills4life&gt; said:

Beane is an enigma. Some claim he is a wizard. Others say he has missed out a lot on early round draft picks, has bad contracts, and now has aging and oft injured players on defense.  I’m curious to see what others think. What say you?

 

11 hours ago, Bagwell358 said:

He’s been bad. Really bad.

 

cap situation is a disaster, multiple day two picks are wasted and we are left with aging players at positions now costing us games.

 

he hit on Allen, made a nice trade for 14. 
 

what else?

 

oh, look two accounts with next to no posting history.. posting right after one another.. I wonder what's going on here. 

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25 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I agree but this is because Beane is virtually powerless. McDermott is running and ruining this team, even with a generational talented quarterback.

 

Was Beane to blame for 10 penalties in the first half? Or 13 seconds? I don't think so. 

To McDermott a credit it was pretty lopsided ref job in the first half 

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He put this team together. He is fine.  Gabe Davis.  Not re-signing Edmonds. Getting Douglas.  Allen and Diggs.  Torrence seems like a good fit, as does kinkaid.   Cook is promising.  
 

agree it’s time for a re-tool.  Lots of aging talent.  Von signing was a bust - but it’s really an injury bust - hard to fully pin that on beane.   We pushed hard to win it all these last couple years and failed.  But I’m not sure that’s beanes fault - or really anyone’s fault. 
 

there is however something off.  This team - as we saw last night - is one of the best teams in the league.  But we lack consistency.  We simply had some horrific games against inferior opponents.  That’s not on beane.   That’s probably more on McDermott/Allen/Captains for not being ready to play Denver and the Jets and the patriots. 
 

I can accept losing the way we lost last night.  It hurts.  But it’s an acceptable fight and an acceptable loss (refs and penalties aside).  What I can’t accept is laying a complete egg on some other games.  It’s not last night that was the problem this season.  

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10 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

What WR did you want to give $5M this season that is playing better?

 

The Knox point is on coaching, which I will not argue. But Beane is giving the coaches talent. It's on them to use it properly.

 

And to add to this point, some would say adding Harty to the roster elevated Shakir's play.

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37 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

 

oh, look two accounts with next to no posting history.. posting right after one another.. I wonder what's going on here. 

I have been reading the boards for years. Just because I don’t post often doesn’t mean there was any collusion for whatever you are implying. 

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This team has been on autopilot since the AFC title game a few years back. We thought we were one player away.

 

In reality, we never really mastered the psychology of winning close games as this year has shown us. We waited for Josh to bail us out and got spoilt while he usually did.

 

Beane brought in an aging Von Miller and a platoon of over the hill running backs.

 

We've gotten older and slower these last two seasons while the Jags, Ravens and Dolphins all got younger and faster.

 

The window has all but closed. Maybe we can run the table but with the Chiefs and Cowboys ahead I'm not holding my breath.

 

What's worse is I feel like we haven't earned our way into the playoffs. Other than Miami, we've beaten up on weaklings. Losing to Jacksonville was a sign. Losing to NE was unforgivable. The Bengals now own us psychologically, admit it. Losing to the Broncos was regrettable and avoidable. 

 

Beane and McDermott have done much good since being hired but enough with moral victories already. Until we climb the mountain, we're just the latest team to Schottenheimer our way out of contention. 

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