DuckyBoys Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 well if they dont turn it around he's next Ultimately he is responsible Not helping his case is injuries some bad player moves by Beane and Josh Allen not being able to curtail the turnovers Nothing to be done about player moves we made and injuries but time Our hope is Joe Brady is able to call a more qb friendly offense and settle Allen down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 My conspiracy theory (which I hope is true for specific reasons) is Terry Pegula forced the issue, if anything to send a subtle message to Allen, Beane and McDummy. Because if there was ever time for him to be a meddlesome owner it's now and can't imagine this cat is happy watching a team with one of the highest payrolls in the NFL flounder like this especially after he gave both Beane and McD unwarranted extensions. So if I'm remotely right this will also be why he's likely already exploring replacement options when as the inevitable plays out in this meaningless string of 7 games left in a wasted season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Just now, FilthyBeast said: My conspiracy theory (which I hope is true for specific reasons) is Terry Pegula forced the issue, if anything to send a subtle message to Allen, Beane and McDummy. Because if there was ever time for him to be a meddlesome owner it's now and can't imagine this cat is happy watching a team with one of the highest payrolls in the NFL flounder like this especially after he gave both Beane and McD unwarranted extensions. So if I'm remotely right this will also be why he's likely already exploring replacement options when as the inevitable plays out in this meaningless string of 7 games left in a wasted season. I'm not a betting man, and even I would bet big money that Pegula has already reached out to the same consulting service he used to find McDermott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Fans would fire someone after every loss if they could. You know what that insolence will not be tolerated. You’re Fired!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Clearly, McClappy fed Dorsey to the lions to deflect from his own shortcomings. Karma is a B word though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Peter said: Clearly, McClappy fed Dorsey to the lions to deflect from his own shortcomings. Karma is a B word though. Again, firing someone has the opposite affect. It brings attention to shortcomings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Again, firing someone has the opposite affect. It brings attention to shortcomings. Indeed. In fact, although I have never been a big McCoach fan, I have not wanted the Bills to get rid of him until yesterday. My comment related to McC's motivation. I am done with McClappy. I cannot bear listening to his BS anymore. It is a shame that the Bills extended his contract. It is time for him to go. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Peter said: Indeed. In fact, although I have never been a big McCoach fan, I have not wanted the Bills to get rid of him until yesterday. My comment related to McC's motivation. I am done with McClappy. I cannot bear listening to his BS anymore. It is a shame that the Bills extended his contract. It is time for him to go. I’ve found myself tired of a lot of things this year. I think some players and coaches have been here too long. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Let me preface this by saying Dorsey clearly struggled these last 2 years and needed to be replaced. But he had nothing to do with 12 men, or 13 Sec, or blowing that late 16-0 lead in Houston. Sean has his own issues and it's well documented. His in game management and preparation is inconsistent. His concerted decision to emphasize D over O these last 6 years has absolutely effected our offense. " Josh you go out and be Superman while I continue to build my Defense"....this team from Day1 needed to be built around it's best player. And other than Diggs, that didn't happen until last season with Torrence & Kincaid. Most of the offensive fa's brought in by Beane have been useless. I'm encouraged that we'll have a new set of eyes running the offense. But I'm not naive enough to ignore more underlying issues with McDermott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Again, firing someone has the opposite affect. It brings attention to shortcomings. Well with Dennison, Farwell, Frazier and now Dorsey, Sean's had 4 bites at that apple. When does it actually "starts with me" kick in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) Why do people complicate things and try and create narratives? McD said straight out it was his decision alone, stop trying to invent new narratives when they straight tell you the answer. And it was a move that needed to happen given how poorly the offense is playing and how inconstant the offense has been in scoring points. When a super power offense on a team with SB expectations averages about 8-10 points LESS per week for 6 straight weeks (and it’s actually 14 points less than the offense avg first 4 weeks) causing you to have a losing record against the weakest stretch of opponents on your schedule…you lose your job. That is the NFL. Don’t like it, then don’t suck and do a better job. Dorsey earned this firing as he has been unable to fix whatever is holding the offense back as this offense has shown for a long time it can score a lot of points. Dorsey could not get it back to scoring points consistently and Dorsey was let go. It’s not rocket science here. Edited November 15, 2023 by Alphadawg7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Well with Dennison, Farwell, Frazier and now Dorsey, Sean's had 4 bites at that apple. When does it actually "starts with me" kick in? Anything before Josh doesn’t count. So I don’t even count Dennison. No one wanted to be OC of that offense. Frazier didn’t get fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 My opinion, McDermott had already made the decision to fire Dorsey before the post game press conference. Go back and listen to how he answers the questions regarding the offense. Look at his body language as he’s talking. He had already made the decision as we was talking to the media. Not a doubt in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 God made the decision. He's giving the Bills a glimmer of hope only to rip our hearts another way in the future. I don't think it's safe to stand next to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 McC made the decision alone. He may suck as a playoff NFL HC but he's not stupid. McD had no choice. It doesn't mean this is over. Come January if nothing dramatic changes, Terry will be forced to step in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Obviously this forum, the media, and twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 10 hours ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: McDermott claimed it was him and him alone. But I wonder if that's the truth. Your thoughts? He did say something on his interview with the media day yesterday that it was "tough to share that news with [Ken Dorsey]" Couldn't tell if that was a lapsus linguae and it was someone else's decision despite saying in the same interview that it was his decision, or if that was just how he worded it. Idk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 2 yrs ago--McD had both a capable OC and capable DC (and he still sucked at in-game) 2023 he has neither capable lieutenants. Further condemnation?? He won't/can't/didn't retain capable coordinators--Makes him even worse at in-game, planning, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Kaenon said: He did say something on his interview with the media day yesterday that it was "tough to share that news with [Ken Dorsey]" Couldn't tell if that was a lapsus linguae and it was someone else's decision despite saying in the same interview that it was his decision, or if that was just how he worded it. Idk! After the Bengals game I wondered if this was what he wanted to do but still needed permission to from ownership which is maybe what he got after this latest cluster*****, who knows. Either way though McDermott was never not going to find it to be tough to share that news with Dorsey, everything we've seen about him indicates he cares a lot about his players and coaches. Firing one of them would have been a pretty bad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Trevon Diggs. He is a new hire in the personnel department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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