This team never makes a big stop

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The offense has struggled all season. At times it’s been hard to watch and it’s infuriating….That being said, more then once this offense has kept grinding and gotten us the lead late, only to watch the Defense on skates and blow it. 
 

It’s not just this season, it’s EVERY season with McDermott….overall we end up with good statistics defensively but we never make a stop in a big spot. If we are in a situation where momentum is changing and we need a quick 3 and out to get the ball back, the other team moves it on us every single time. No exceptions. If we get up in a game and need a stop to win…they go down the field and score every time. If we aren’t turning people over, we don’t make stops. This coach has no clue how to get firm in a big spot. 13 seconds was the reveal to the world but it’s been happening on a smaller scale from day 1. If we aren’t turning a team over, we don’t stop them. Every third down, guys wide open. Every short yardage situation, no resistance…constant penalties in back braking spots. This defense looks good on paper but when you need them to step up, never happens

[SoCal Deek]

Well said…and I bet that we all knew it when Denver got the ball. I was screaming for Josh to slide at the one yard line! 

[BILLS55]

Just saying this last night. So true.  The Defense always chokes when it counts the most or we make a stupid mistake / penalties. 

[Bray Wyatt]

The Broncos had 4 drives start in our territory and only got 6 points on those. I would say they made big stops

[Sharky7337]

7 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The offense has struggled all season. At times it’s been hard to watch and it’s infuriating….That being said, more then once this offense has kept grinding and gotten us the lead late, only to watch the Defense on skates and blow it. 
 

It’s not just this season, it’s EVERY season with McDermott….overall we end up with good statistics defensively but we never make a stop in a big spot. If we are in a situation where momentum is changing and we need a quick 3 and out to get the ball back, the other team moves it on us every single time. No exceptions. If we get up in a game and need a stop to win…they go down the field and score every time. If we aren’t turning people over, we don’t make stops. This coach has no clue how to get firm in a big spot. 13 seconds was the reveal to the world but it’s been happening on a smaller scale from day 1. If we aren’t turning a team over, we don’t stop them. Every third down, guys wide open. Every short yardage situation, no resistance…constant penalties in back braking spots. This defense looks good on paper but when you need them to step up, never happens

Im gonna disagree only in that the offense last night squandered many big stops

[Gregg]

You are correct. When the Bills made it 22-21 the first thing, I said was they will lose 24-22. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I was convinced the whole time it was Fraizer, at this point I’m done with McDermott. Every time the other team has a 3rd down you know they are going to buy an extra second and see guys wide open. Every accurate QB shreds this zone. It’s not what we need. Im done with this guy. Get a new young voice in the room

[Ramza86]

The defense always sucks when it matters. 

 

McDermott sending everyone and getting that sack? Nice call.

 

WHY ARE YOU DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN? YOU KNOW RUSS IS ON ALERT NOW AND HAS TO THROW IT UP.

[dorquemada]

Agreed 100%.  THis is the difference between the Bills statistically dominant defense, or what it was, and a defense like KC who give up some yards and points but usually can manage a stop when it counts.

 

I don't know what the bill of goods that McD sold to Pegula, and continues to sell, but he's one hell of a salesman

[Eastport bills]

I thought the defense was stout last night. If we’re being fair, the offense put them in terrible field position and went 3 and out most drives. So not only did they allow very few drives and forced FGs on possessions starting in plus territory, they had sacks and forced an important turnover, giving the offense a short field. You want to blame Johnson for the PI, fine but it shouldn’t have come down to that. The defense was not the problem.

[RiotAct]

it sucks, especially because our defense looked AWESOME last night save for those final two drives.

[BBFL]

The minute Sutton scored that wonder tap TD I knew Denver came to play. Every facet, offense/defense/special teams, had some funky and underwhelming moments. 
 

we didn’t run the ball against porous run defense, special teams made many blunders; kick offs, punt coverage and of course the 12 men on the field, and then to top it off the defense itself missed many crucial tackles and let a QB who’s been unable to gain yards on the ground scramble for a decent chunk of yards. 
 

I’ve never been in the fire McDermott camp but he needs to go at seasons end unless this team makes a miracle 180° turnaround… it’s consistent errors from his game management.

 

Like many others point out, this guy has invested heavily into a defensive line that rarely shows up for massive cap space, roster spots and a heavy rotation. The stats are convoluted to a handful of games. 
 

I think the defense isn’t half as bad as some may think as they are on the field a lot by stalled drives, turnovers and spotty play choices from an offense. 
 

Offense is what wins you games and I, personally, feel we need to shift a coaching regime to that end of the field. Josh has played some head scratching games this year but he still has otherworldly talent that you can harness easy success from…

 

2¢

Edited November 14, 2023 by BBFL

[DrDawkinstein]

only 6 points off 4 turnovers, and our O and ST giving them starts in our own territory all night.

 

If the offense showed up to play like the defense, we'd only have 1-2 losses.

 

I do believe the DC needs to be fired but not because of our Defensive performance. And I cant knock any of the players on D who show up and play with heart all the time. Unlike most of our Offense.

 

You want a big stop, blame the dummy who called a 2nd all out blitz coming off a time out. Coaching not putting our guys in the best position to succeed.

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by DrDawkinstein

[BillsFan130]

6 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

The Broncos had 4 drives start in our territory and only got 6 points on those. I would say they made big stops

Not in the 4th quarter.

 

Last two drives: 8 minute drive- TD.

 

GW field goal with time expiring 

[BillsFan2313]

7 minutes ago, Gregg said:

You are correct. When the Bills made it 22-21 the first thing, I said was they will lose 24-22. 

 

Wow, way to go out on a limb... 

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

only 6 points off 4 turnovers, and our O and ST giving them starts in our own territory all night.

 

If the offense showed up to play like the defense, we'd only have 1-2 losses.

 

I do believe the DC needs to be fired but not because of our Defensive performance. And I cant knock any of the players on D who show up and play with heart all the time. Unlike most of our Offense.

 

You want a big stop, blame the dummy who called a 2nd all out blitz coming off a time out. Coaching not putting our guys in the best position to succeed.

 

Defense kept us alive in the game all night.

 

Competent teams, like the Eagles, would’ve been up 21-0 at the end of the first Q.

 

I don’t understand how folks don’t get this. Unless we are ASKING the banged up defense to score points for the offense, what else can they do?

[Bray Wyatt]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Not in the 4th quarter.

 

Last two drives: 8 minute drive- TD.

 

GW field goal with time expiring 

 

The OP said big stops. People are really going to make it look like I am defending the coaching here and I am not, but do you think that maybe since they were on the field all game in tough spots they got wore out in the 4th? (And even then still should have won if not for bad coaching decisions)

Just now, FireChans said:

Defense kept us alive in the game all night.

 

Competent teams, like the Eagles, would’ve been up 21-0 at the end of the first Q.

 

I don’t understand how folks don’t get this. Unless we are ASKING the banged up defense to score points for the offense, what else can they do?

 

Well said

[Bruffalo]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

only 6 points off 4 turnovers, and our O and ST giving them starts in our own territory all night.

 

If the offense showed up to play like the defense, we'd only have 1-2 losses.

 

I do believe the DC needs to be fired but not because of our Defensive performance. And I cant knock any of the players on D who show up and play with heart all the time. Unlike most of our Offense.

Yeah. If I'm dealing out blame it's like 40% offense (So Dorsey, I think most of Allen's woes are scheme issues), 50% McD (letting the offense get this bad without adjustments), and 10% the defense not holding up in the last moments.

 

 

[BBFL]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

Not in the 4th quarter.

 

Last two drives: 8 minute drive- TD.

 

GW field goal with time expiring 

That last TD drive started at midfield man… Another ST let down. Sure they could have done better but they were on fringe scoring  to start. 
 

Sideline to Perine and the short pass to Sutton on 3rd & 4 were the only absolute failings by the defense on that drive… They converted that due to coverage design. 

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The offense has struggled all season. At times it’s been hard to watch and it’s infuriating….That being said, more then once this offense has kept grinding and gotten us the lead late, only to watch the Defense on skates and blow it. 
 

It’s not just this season, it’s EVERY season with McDermott….overall we end up with good statistics defensively but we never make a stop in a big spot. If we are in a situation where momentum is changing and we need a quick 3 and out to get the ball back, the other team moves it on us every single time. No exceptions. If we get up in a game and need a stop to win…they go down the field and score every time. If we aren’t turning people over, we don’t make stops. This coach has no clue how to get firm in a big spot. 13 seconds was the reveal to the world but it’s been happening on a smaller scale from day 1. If we aren’t turning a team over, we don’t stop them. Every third down, guys wide open. Every short yardage situation, no resistance…constant penalties in back braking spots. This defense looks good on paper but when you need them to step up, never happens

 

Recency bias.  You can go back numerous times since McD was here and see plays where the D won the game.

 

Taron Johnson intercepting Mahomes to end the game last year was one.

 

This offense is unacceptable and the fact people want to act like because they gave us a lead late that it somehow falls on the D is laughable.  They are the only reason the Bills weren't down by 20+ after handing them 4 TO's and an average drive start of their own 42 yard line.  So tired of watching this offense remind me of the Dick Jauron/Chan Gailey/Doug Marrone era offenses.  Inexcusable.