This team never makes a big stop

[Freak-O]

This whole topic reeks of selective memory. 

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Since 2018 - 

1st Round - 3 Offense / 4 Defense

2nd Round - 3 Offense / 2 Defense

3rd Round - 4 Offense / 2 Defense

 

Seems pretty even to me.

 

You can only ask the defense for so much before they break a little. They played out of their mind. If the offense puts together any semblance of a professional appearance, this would have been a blow out for the Bills.

I hear you, but It’s not a one time thing though.

 

4 times this year they have choked in the 4th.

 

 

 

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 hour ago, Freak-O said:

This whole topic reeks of selective memory. 

When has this team made a big stop to save a game? One that wasn’t a turnover? That is basically an unsustainable fluke’ish thing? Go back as far as you want.

[billsfan714]

Giants went down and almost won it, Bucs same and Broncos won it.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

They made a ton of big stops , stopping them multiple times when Denver was starting around the 50 was very impressive.

 

Ref doesnt call that weak pass interference and we win this game.

 

 

[st pete gogolak]

8 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Nope. Crunch time you need to make a stop. This is not a one time thing .

 

4 times this year they needed a stop when they were leading or needed a stop in the 4th to have a chance.

Want to know what the results are?

 

0-4.

 

Jax- 2 TDs in a row to salt the game away

NE- GW drive to mac jones

cinci- drains the clock to end game

Den- GW drive to Russell Wilson

 

The offence is def the reason they lost in a vacuum . But the defence is to blame as well as it’s the same story with them in the 4th quarter 

It’s called complimentary football.

[Pete]

Lamar Jackson says you are full of *****

[cgg716]

The best defense even in good years was Allen. He buried teams early turned them into pass only. Skewed every stat, they've never actually been good despite having a defensive coach 

[YodaMan79]

 

The D could only hold so long.  👆The time of possession being so lopsided put them in a rough spot.  The cover 0 two plays in a row was key miscalculation.  SP just out coached McDermott. 

[BullBuchanan]

9 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The offense has struggled all season. At times it’s been hard to watch and it’s infuriating….That being said, more then once this offense has kept grinding and gotten us the lead late, only to watch the Defense on skates and blow it. 
 

It’s not just this season, it’s EVERY season with McDermott….overall we end up with good statistics defensively but we never make a stop in a big spot. If we are in a situation where momentum is changing and we need a quick 3 and out to get the ball back, the other team moves it on us every single time. No exceptions. If we get up in a game and need a stop to win…they go down the field and score every time. If we aren’t turning people over, we don’t make stops. This coach has no clue how to get firm in a big spot. 13 seconds was the reveal to the world but it’s been happening on a smaller scale from day 1. If we aren’t turning a team over, we don’t stop them. Every third down, guys wide open. Every short yardage situation, no resistance…constant penalties in back braking spots. This defense looks good on paper but when you need them to step up, never happens

You know the team just made a big stop to win a game two weeks ago right? They also did it two weeks before that.

The issue here is that we've asked the team to make a stop to tin the game every single week for the last six weeks, right? That's untenable. We've won two of those which is one game shy of a coin flip.

[DuckyBoys]

46 minutes ago, cgg716 said:

The best defense even in good years was Allen. He buried teams early turned them into pass only. Skewed every stat, they've never actually been good despite having a defensive coach 

Lot of truth to that  They cant hold a one score lead no matter who the opposing qb is

[Riverboat Ritchie]

Defense as a whole, up until the past crucial drive played ok. I was perplexed some to see Von drop back in zone a couple times. He just looked so ineffective and slow that seemed like a dumb idea. Memory serves me right, the donkeys got first downs each time. 

[pennstate10]

10 hours ago, Eastport bills said:

I thought the defense was stout last night. If we’re being fair, the offense put them in terrible field position and went 3 and out most drives. So not only did they allow very few drives and forced FGs on possessions starting in plus territory, they had sacks and forced an important turnover, giving the offense a short field. You want to blame Johnson for the PI, fine but it shouldn’t have come down to that. The defense was not the problem.

Ah, the defense was the problem at the end of the game. They couldn’t get the key stop. Couldn’t close the deal. 
 

Let’s say you’re a high end auto salesman. 
 

Dude comes in looking for a Kia, but now you’ve got him looking at a Jag XL. 
takes it out for a test drive. You’re on him to come back in, don’t go to any other dealers. 
He come back with his checkbook. You go back and forth a bit, but y ou get him to agree to a deal that gives your dealership a nice $15K profit with a $3K commission going to you. 
 

He’s signing the deal when his pen runs dry. 
 

You say, no prob, use mine. It’s your favorite pen with a Michigan M on it. 
 

Turns out the dude was a huge Ohio State fan. He says ima outa here. 
 

You played the deal perfectly, but you didn’t close. 
 

That’s why the Bills D is at fault. They didn’t close the deal. 

[FireChans]

11 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Nope. Crunch time you need to make a stop. This is not a one time thing .

 

4 times this year they needed a stop when they were leading or needed a stop in the 4th to have a chance.

Want to know what the results are?

 

0-4.

 

Jax- 2 TDs in a row to salt the game away

NE- GW drive to mac jones

cinci- drains the clock to end game

Den- GW drive to Russell Wilson

 

The offence is def the reason they lost in a vacuum . But the defence is to blame as well as it’s the same story with them in the 4th quarter 

Um, they stopped the Giants and the Bucs. They also outscored the Commanders by themselves. 
 

I guess the defense is really 3-4 this season. With half of their players injured. 

2 hours ago, cgg716 said:

The best defense even in good years was Allen. He buried teams early turned them into pass only. Skewed every stat, they've never actually been good despite having a defensive coach 

Somehow this argument works only one way. 
 

Does this mean that Josh playing terrible and the offense turning it over a billion times makes the defense look worse? 
 

It would have to, right?

[Aimee75]

13 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Um, they stopped the Giants and the Bucs. They also outscored the Commanders by themselves. 
 

I guess the defense is really 3-4 this season. With half of their players injured. 

Somehow this argument works only one way. 
 

Does this mean that Josh playing terrible and the offense turning it over a billion times makes the defense look worse? 
 

It would have to, right?

Bad examples. We got really luky the refs didn't call a second flag in The Giants game. We could have easily lost the Bucs game on a hail mary. We got lucky that none of the Bucs players were looking for the damn ball, and it hit the ground.

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, Aimee75 said:

Bad examples. We got really luky the refs didn't call a second flag in The Giants game. We could have easily lost the Bucs game on a hail mary. We got lucky that none of the Bucs players were looking for the damn ball, and it hit the ground.

Those were stops. They had an opportunity to stop those teams from

scoring and winning. And the ball fell incomplete. That’s a stop.

[BillsFan130]

29 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Um, they stopped the Giants and the Bucs. They also outscored the Commanders by themselves. 
 

I guess the defense is really 3-4 this season. With half of their players injured. 

Somehow this argument works only one way. 
 

Does this mean that Josh playing terrible and the offense turning it over a billion times makes the defense look worse? 
 

It would have to, right?

They stopped the giants 3rd stringers with a blatant missed PI call by 1 yard.

And they “stopped” the bucs from going 80 yards in 20 seconds with 0 timeouts. (Not to mention they let up a TD the previous drive)

Thats what we are basing it on?

Edited November 15, 2023 by BillsFan130

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

They stopped the giants 3rd stringers with a blatant missed PI call by 1 yard.

And they stopped the bucs from going 80 yards in 20 seconds with 0 timeouts. (Not to mention they let up a TD the previous drive)

Thats what we are basing it on?

 

27 minutes ago, FireChans said:

4 times this year they needed a stop when they were leading or needed a stop in the 4th to have a chance.

 

This was your quote and it was wrong. You clearly forgot the games they did make stops on. 

 

Was just trying to correct you.

 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, FireChans said:

 

This was your quote and it was wrong. You clearly forgot the games they did make stops on. 

 

Was just trying to correct you.

 

That don’t count as stops to me.

 

Those teams ran out of time.

 

Giants had 65 yards to go with 0 timeouts with about 1:30.

And tampa had 80 yards to go with 0 timeouts in 20 seconds lol.

Those aren’t “stops “ to me

[Dr.Sack]

A big stop starts and ends with a playmaker. Thankfully we have Von Miller and Rasul Douglas.