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Would McDermott Fire Dorsey If We Fail Thursday?


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Would McDermott Fire Dorsey?  

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  1. 1. If we come out flat and lay another egg against TB on offense heading into our bye week, would McDermott fire/demote/remove responsibilities of play calling/OC from Dorsey?

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    • No
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  2. 2. If we fail to score points, should he fire him before the bye?

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    • no
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6 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

I would think all you guys who hate the scheme would want him to wait until after the season. A mid-season firing means it's the person, not the scheme. 😉

 

His schemes have worked at times.  The man can't adjust.  And schemes don't adjust themselves.

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No. First off any firing would come at the end of the season. Firing him now does what exactly? Gives the reigns to Joe Brady? What has Brady done as an OC to make ANYONE think that's a step up? Mike Shula? Good God, no. Let's see if Ken can fix things. I have my own doubts, but this is what happens when you hire an inexperienced OC. 

 

And if we do fire him at the end of the year...who exactly do you think gets that OC job? Joe Brady...another "promote from within"? Even if they go outside the organization....I have a feeling they aren't going to look for a guy with a ton of experience. If they go outside my bet is...Tee Martin. So let's all just hope Dorsey can figure things out or we are back to square one with an inexperienced play caller in most likely hood 

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4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

No. First off any firing would come at the end of the season. Firing him now does what exactly? Gives the reigns to Joe Brady? What has Brady done as an OC to make ANYONE think that's a step up? Mike Shula? Good God, no. Let's see if Ken can fix things. I have my own doubts, but this is what happens when you hire an inexperienced OC. 

 

And if we do fire him at the end of the year...who exactly do you think gets that OC job? Joe Brady...another "promote from within"? Even if they go outside the organization....I have a feeling they aren't going to look for a guy with a ton of experience. If they go outside my bet is...Tee Higgins. So let's all just hope Dorsey can figure things out or we are back to square one with an inexperienced play caller in most likely hood 

Tee Higgins? I think that he has a few more years of playing before starting his coaching career. I kid, I kid. Tee Martin is an interesting prospect for the OC position and the Bills interviewed him in 2021.

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If you read through the replies he said in one  "Josh told me he likes running plays out of shotgun" or something to that effect. May have been a Freudian slip. Just making conversation. I didn't believe it either until I read replies too (not just posts). Dorsey is also known to be a hothead, so it wouldn't surprise me if he would want to fight back.

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If you'd posted this after the Giants I'd have said yes and yes. Dorsey wasn't the problem at all yesterday. He called a good game. It was the players on offense that were the problem.

 

The coaching on defense wasn't good yesterday. I actually wonder whether at some point McD would consider handing over defensive playcalling to Holcomb or Washington.

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14 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Tee Higgins? I think that he has a few more years of playing before starting his coaching career. I kid, I kid. Tee Martin is an interesting prospect for the OC position and the Bills interviewed him in 2021.

Ha! Yes Martin. 

 

From what I have read Martin was almost the choice in 2021. Came down to Allen feeling more comfortable with Dorsey. I have almost no doubt that if Dorsey left or was fired Martin would be among their top choices if not first choice. 

 

Problem is, lack of play calling experience. Again. We are living that reality now.

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What is this overwhelming love for Dorsey?  Does he call a good game sometimes? Sure.  But the offense is easily defended against.  There is not creativity, almost no growth from last year.  There are things other NFL offenses are doing (Philly, Mia, KC, San Fran) that the Bills either can't, won't or know how to incorporate.  

 

I'm not surprised the Bills are struggling.  Allen just out right refuses to take the short stuff and forces passes on long developing plays with a bad O-line.  Not the greatest recipe.  In short, Dorsey is trying to run an incompatible offense with this team.

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16 minutes ago, jlgarsh said:

If you read through the replies he said in one  "Josh told me he likes running plays out of shotgun" or something to that effect. May have been a Freudian slip. Just making conversation. I didn't believe it either until I read replies too (not just posts). Dorsey is also known to be a hothead, so it wouldn't surprise me if he would want to fight back.


The sentence I read was more like “Josh prefers shotgun”.  Didn’t specifically include any action of Josh telling this poster that, although for some reason the poster has the understanding or belief.  The person generally makes a strong defense for Dorsey, although their replies and comments don’t read to me like it could actually be Dorsey.

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