dave mcbride Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Murray has had two fumbles on his last 866 touches. That’s at the very least — he had one fumble on 231 touches in 2017, and I’m too lazy to look up when it happened. Let’s just assume for a second that he has fumbled 2 times in his last 1,000 touches. That is INCREDIBLE: a 0.2 percent rate. And I have no idea if they were even lost fumbles. Suffice it to say, though, that he holds onto the ball. By way of extreme comparison, Joe Cribbs fumbled 28 times in his first two seasons on 655 touches - a 4.3 percent rate. More recently, Devin Singletary has fumbled 13 times on 861 touches (a 1.5 percent rate). Rushing plays are low yardage plays on average compared to passing plays, but one of the presumed benefits is a lower turnover rate. Murray brings that. Edited October 19, 2023 by dave mcbride 6 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brand J Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2023 Thanks, now he’ll fumble this week. 5 14 46 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RiotAct Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Thanks, now he’ll fumble this week. Guaranteed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Murray has had two fumbles on his last 866 touches. That’s at the very least — he had one fumble on 231 touches in 2017, and I’m too lazy to look up when it happened. Let’s just assume for a second that he has fumbled 2 times in his last 1,000 touches. That is INCREDIBLE: a 0.2 percent rate. And I have no idea if they were even lost fumbles. Suffice it to say, though, that he holds onto the ball. By way of extreme comparison, Joe Cribbs fumbled 28 times in his first two seasons on 655 touches - a 4.3 percent rate. More recently, Devin Singletary has fumbled 13 times on 861 touches (a 1.5 percent rate). Rushing plays are low yardage plays on average compared to passing plays, but one of the presumed benefits is a lower turnover rate. Murray brings that. Way to go jinxing us Dave. 😂😭 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MurrLa00.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Interestingly he got his Pro Bowl award on year he made the most fumbles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Why are the the way that you are? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 If he fumbles this week you’re officially banned for a month. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills fan since 87 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Dude.......Cut it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Murray is awesome Remember him stepping up in Denver last year, he has some Frank Gore in him. Could probably go another 3 seasons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 8 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: Thanks, now he’ll fumble this week. Indeed. The kiss of death! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I have always thought he was an underrated back. Always falls forwards, can run tough yards, great pass protector and doesn't turn it over. I was lukewarm about the bills signing a 33 year old though. Wasn't sure he had much left in the tank. But he has been more than serviceable so far. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Thanks for disparaging my first football hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloTX Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I think Murray should be the starter and take majority of the touches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Bills seemed to make a concerted effort to sign and draft players the last couple of years that rarely dropped or fumbled the football while moving on from players who did (Singletary, McKenzie). Doesn't bode well for Gabe Davis re-signing here. 14 minutes ago, BuffaloTX said: I think Murray should be the starter and take majority of the touches. Cook is far more explosive imo and still should receive the majority of the touches. A 65/35 split or something like that would be fine with me. He also rarely fumbles the football like Murray. I just wish he was better in pass protection. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, BuffaloTX said: I think Murray should be the starter and take majority of the touches. I think he and Cook would have to split their touches, Murrey inside north-sud while Cook all the outside. Hello Dorsey ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, BuffaloTX said: I think Murray should be the starter and take majority of the touches. Murray actually did draw the start last week against the Giants and ended up with the same amount of snaps that Cook did. Cook had more touches (14 to 12) and out gained Murray (71 yds to 45). In this case I feel like the numbers match the eye test. Cook has the higher ceiling. Murray can get us those tough yards. It's a nice formula to have. Cook has the ability to be a big play back. However he has struggled in pass protection. This is likely why Murray is seeing more time. And Murray seems to get more work at the goal line. They both have really nice roles on the offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Murray has had two fumbles on his last 866 touches. That’s at the very least — he had one fumble on 231 touches in 2017, and I’m too lazy to look up when it happened. Let’s just assume for a second that he has fumbled 2 times in his last 1,000 touches. That is INCREDIBLE: a 0.2 percent rate. And I have no idea if they were even lost fumbles. Suffice it to say, though, that he holds onto the ball. By way of extreme comparison, Joe Cribbs fumbled 28 times in his first two seasons on 655 touches - a 4.3 percent rate. More recently, Devin Singletary has fumbled 13 times on 861 touches (a 1.5 percent rate). Rushing plays are low yardage plays on average compared to passing plays, but one of the presumed benefits is a lower turnover rate. Murray brings that. The first thing to know about fight club is you never talk about fight club…, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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