Coldfronts Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Edited October 16, 2023 by Coldfronts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) at 6:45 isn't the first read Gabe and the second one Diggs then the pressure gets there before he gets to Shakir? at least he clearly looked like he was looking more at Davis at first. Edited October 16, 2023 by Warcodered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 DIGGS DIGGS DIGGS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: so this single play constitutes "proof". hmm. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: so this single play constitutes "proof". hmm. you did not watch the whole thing did you? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 It's a problem, but we don't really know the root of it. Is it because Diggs is read 1 on practically every play and Allen trusts his arm to just gun it to him? If so, Dorsey needs to diversify the playbook to get more pieces involved. Is it because Allen doesn't trust the other guys? Then they need to find whatever they can to establish that trust. Is it because the other guys just don't get open? Well I don't know how you fix that, better schemes I guess. I think it's a scheme issue and a read issue, honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6:54 he means I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 almost 56% team target was diggs and 78% in the 1st quarter alone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Don’t blame him at all. In fact I’d push 20 targets per game to him. Does anyone play with Diggs competitiveness or fire? 6 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: It's a problem, but we don't really know the root of it. Is it because Diggs is read 1 on practically every play and Allen trusts his arm to just gun it to him? If so, Dorsey needs to diversify the playbook to get more pieces involved. Is it because Allen doesn't trust the other guys? Then they need to find whatever they can to establish that trust. Is it because the other guys just don't get open? Well I don't know how you fix that, better schemes I guess. I think it's a scheme issue and a read issue, honestly. We are getting what we pay for on offensive skill position. Who is their right mind thinks 5’6” Deonte Harty is a consistent playmaker? Who in their right mind is like we gotta get Trent Sherfield some more snaps out wide? Our talent is average. Thats why on all the pre season lists the Bills are mid pack when their weapons are rated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Big Turk said: 6:54 he means I think Yeah that play looked like it was Gabe then Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 kiss about 60% of your offense away if Diggs goes down. Over reliance on Diggs is just not going to be a successful strategy moving forward 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 If you want to someone to catch to the ball, look for Diggs. Knox and Gabe are iffy pass catchers. I wouldn't trust them either... This has been a known issue and I do wish Beane pushes harder during the offseason for WR2. Kincaid is nice, but he isn't WR2 and neither is Davis.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) The 2023 Bills are setting themselves up for more Cincy-Buffalo Divisional game disappointment because they *still* haven't developed any reliable plan to get the hard yards outside of Stefon Diggs. There's no built in balance, and seemingly little interest to create any. It is concerning that through 6 games, Diggs has 66 targets and Davis is a distant 2nd with 30. Knox 25. I'd rather have Diggs as my closer with more targets in the 2nd half of games, and let my first half be targets to someone else and get them into a rhythm. Edited October 16, 2023 by dpberr 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Diggs is the first read in most of their passing concepts. Josh said so in the presser. If Josh thinks Diggs is open or is going to be then that is where Josh is going with the ball by design of the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, dpberr said: I'd rather have Diggs as my closer with more targets in the 2nd half of games, and let my first half be targets to someone else and get them into a rhythm. It seemed like Josh would go to Kincaid early in games to get the defense focused on covering the whole formation. For whatever reason, Josh seemed to be hyper focused on Diggs last night. Maybe he’s not in agreement with certain offensive approaches and is trying to send a message to the coaches? Just like with his running - the coaches have been trying to reel him in for a couple years now. It’s now to the point where Josh refuses to take the easy run yards available to him. Maybe he’s sending a message to the coaches that he’s not happy not being able to play more free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Diggs is open all the time. You'd prefer we look elsewhere first? 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, eball said: Diggs is open all the time. You'd prefer we look elsewhere first? I sort of see both sides on this. I think it would help the rhythm of the offense to get some more guys involved earlier. People gripe about Gabe and Knox dropping balls. It’s tougher to get into a rhythm when you only get like 2 targets. I really liked that little out to Shakir yesterday and the goal line pass to Harty. Keep feeding Diggs— but mix some more of that in so guys can get a feel for the game. I think it will up the level of play across the board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Not rocket science I said it earlier today it’s too one dimensional and easy for the opposition to scout & defend. You need to keep everyone honest. We’re basically a one trick pony. Our OC & JA are SD infatuated at the expense of our TE’s, other WR’s etc…. It’s a limited scheme. If SD is doubled or taken out of the game by the opposing D we flounder. JA forcing it to SD is no bueno…. 14 against that crappy a$$ D last was absurd. Edited October 17, 2023 by PayDaBill$ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I’m not sure the throws to Diggs are as much the OC as it is Allen. Who may not trust anyone else on O at all. Davis a little bit more. But all the other pieces are new. I think it’s obvious what Diggs was mad about this summer. “Why are we switching to 12? Who is Dalton Kincaid? Why are we changing what was working - just get a competent slot or another legit WR to spell and take over for Gabe after this season.” The personnel decisions and the direction of the O are on Beane and McD. But looking back this spring it’s like they let Dorsey and his preferred scheme win out but does that suit Allen? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Did anybody notice Tirico point out how Tyrod was targeting Elam? Conversely, did anybody notice Allen targeting any specific defender on the Giants? Or a specific part of the field? Or a specific weakness of the Giants defense? I sure as ***** never noticed the Bills offense targeting anything in particular. I can't remember the last time I do remember Dorsey game planning to go after the other team's Elam. That's the difference. That's why the Dorsey's offense is becoming so easy to game plan for. All the other team has to do is concentrate on is defending a couple particular plays in running situations and then Diggs in obvious passing situations and you have cracked the Bills code. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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