BillsFanForever19 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) With the way McDermott brings along new players and what it would probably cost, I probably wouldn't bother. Gabe Davis is playing at a high level so Jeudy would be no better than WR3. And he'd cut into Dalton Kincaid's targets and growth as he's (no doubt) being brought along slowly as well. McDermott, for as much good as he brings, is an EXTREMELY conservative coach when it comes to new players coming to the team. Beane would make a move for him and fans would be screaming "why isn't Jeudy getting more playing time?" If moves are going to be made on this team, they should be looking at other positions before Pass Catchers. I don't think that's even remotely a problem right now. Edited October 12, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Sherfield cannot play. Not sure Harty can play either. We need another guy who can get open and threaten defenses. Doesn't matter if the dude in charge has no idea how to use them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Billl said: Sutton could be had for a 5th. He’s garbage. Sutton doesn’t produce against top CB’s anymore. Can he get open against 3rd or 4th DB’s? I think so. Just now, Comebackkid said: Doesn't matter if the dude in charge has no idea how to use them No one in Trent Sherfields entire NFL career has been able to use him. Is every coach he has had bad? Or is he just an end of the roster bum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Jeudy would be an upgrade but it would probably be a rental, and I'm not interested in giving up more than a 3rd for a rental. The cap situation next year is pretty dire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, FireChans said: It’s the talent. Trent and Harty have around 1700 yards and 8 receiving TD’s between the two of them in 11 NFL seasons combined. In 7 NFL season, Isaiah McKenzie has had 1300 yards and 11 receiving TD’s. These bums were the “upgraded receiving core?” Gabe Davis 2.0 means Sherfield and Harty don’t see the field again. Gabe aint perfect but he’s at least a good NFLer. Sutton is too similar. We need a guy like Jeudy who is more shifty and explosive and a polished route runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 If we’re gonna go trade, go big Jj would look very good at a Bills uniform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, DJB said: Sutton is too similar. We need a guy like Jeudy who is more shifty and explosive and a polished route runner I don’t really care tbh. I would be fine with either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: Sutton doesn’t produce against top CB’s anymore. Can he get open against 3rd or 4th DB’s? I think so. No one in Trent Sherfields entire NFL career has been able to use him. Is every coach he has had bad? Or is he just an end of the roster bum? Hard to say but is it every receiver we bring in not named Diggs or is the coaching philosophy flawed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Unless they’re giving Jeudy away for a 6th, I think it would be reckless to offer anything of substance for him right now. Beane needs to find out if a move needs to be made at LB and/or CB before the trade deadline. I’d throw in DT, but I believe McDermott when he says Poona is a good player and it was just a numbers game with him being solely a 1T. A Jeudy trade, as opposed to a trade for a vet 1 year guy also makes thing kinda awkward with Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: We should have 2-3rd and 2-6. I'd give one of each for Sutton Jeudy is not liked at all in Denver. He is seen as someone who doesn't give full effort. Edited October 12, 2023 by nedboy7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I'd rather look at one of their corners or linebackers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Based on what we had when we started the season our defense has taken the most loss. I wouldn't expect an offensive player unless a RB like Mcaffrey becomes available. 7 hours ago, DJB said: Sutton is too similar. We need a guy like Jeudy who is more shifty and explosive and a polished route runner Should it be telling that Payton would have no interest in him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 10 hours ago, mrags said: The extra 3rd rounder we have would be about as high of a pick as I’d be willing to give up. Maybe add on a late rounder or an incentive if he finishes with so many TDs or if we win a SB Hard to argue this point. Although I think Harty is pretty much useless and Sherfield isn’t that good. Kincaid might be but it appears Dorsey has an issue with using TEs as weapons and not as blockers. Kinkaid in college had a depth of target as 14-15 yards, and now it’s 3-6. The same for Knox in the past. Harry, and Sherfield could all be used better. I have not been on the bash Dorsey camp, but we need more from our OC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 What problem would this be solving? Will the offense become top 5? Cam he catch fastballs? Will the TE's see more productivity as a result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsUberAlles Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 No. What has he done in Denver to show that he is worth what they would be asking for? He makes Gabe look like the most surehanded WR in the NFL with his drops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 What about Tre, 2 firsts and a swap of a 2nd rounder for Surtain? 🫣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsUberAlles Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BBFL said: What about Tre, 2 firsts and a swap of a 2nd rounder for Surtain? 🫣 Is that the trade you just did in Madden? Who the hell in their right mind is trading 2 firsts and a second for a CB? Especially in a D that minimizes a players individual value in favor of team concepts. You need a serious lesson on how to value positions in various schemes. Edited October 12, 2023 by BillsUberAlles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, SCBills said: Unless they’re giving Jeudy away for a 6th, I think it would be reckless to offer anything of substance for him right now. Beane needs to find out if a move needs to be made at LB and/or CB before the trade deadline. I’d throw in DT, but I believe McDermott when he says Poona is a good player and it was just a numbers game with him being solely a 1T. A Jeudy trade, as opposed to a trade for a vet 1 year guy also makes thing kinda awkward with Davis. I had the same thought about Gabe Davis. Bringing in a player like Jeudy would be awkward to the point that Davis would have to be shipped off as part of the trade or in a separate one. Jeudy is on the last year of his rookie contract and his $13M, 5th year option in 2024 has been picked up. Any trade would mean that Denver is just shipping off a disgruntled player before having to pay him that. So they wouldn’t be looking for much in trade. Even so I don’t see the point unless we have an injury at the position. I’d pass unless the coaches think that shaking things up by swapping out Davis for Jeudy is worth the risk. Edit: Upon reflection I think shaking things up is necessary and that the talent difference between Jeudy and Davis makes it worth the risk. Edited October 12, 2023 by BarleyNY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Yes. Gabe davis and a 3rd...maybe a 2025 second. They need contracts they can dump...Gabe is free agent at end of year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, BillsUberAlles said: Is that the trade you just did in Madden? Who the hell in their right mind is trading 2 firsts and a second for a CB? Especially in a D that minimizes a players individual value in favor of team concepts. You need a serious lesson on how to value positions in various schemes. Jags traded Ramsey for 2 1sts and a 4th like 3 years ago bro. Edited October 12, 2023 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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