FireChans Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Like the bills put it on Josh 53 and 54% his first 2 years? no one is saying to take the ball out of AR15s hands. He can pass 53% of the time (while also run 5-10 times per game) and still develop. But if the run game sucks…..then opponents won’t have to play them honest and it’ll make it more diffuse on the young QB. I just don’t see how paying 2 years of gtd money will hurt THIS team. It could hurt others, but Ballard has them in a decent position- 70M under next season with room for more while paying the QB pennies for 4 more years…. Bills Josh Allen run + pass + sack vs the rest of the offense would be the comparison I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Bills Josh Allen run + pass + sack vs the rest of the offense would be the comparison I think. Fine. Either way, I don’t see how this move can possibly hurt AR15 unless the run more than half the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: You put the 49ers in the AFC West and I'd love it since they'd have a great chance to knock off the Chiefs, certainly better than any of those other teams. With the way the Chiefs are playing I'd honestly make them the favorites. Eagles here in the East, I'd say they're probably 2nd place, they're a tough team but I think we'd get the better of them. Between them and the Dolphins I think they have enough of a defense to give them an edge into 2nd. Sounds like you are one of those folks who just has supreme confidence in Shanahan despite Mahomes whipping hizass in all 3 career meetings. Add Josh Allen to that and Shanny is 0-4 against them and all losses by 10 points or more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Sounds like you are one of those folks who just has supreme confidence in Shanahan despite Mahomes whipping hizass in all 3 career meetings. Add Josh Allen to that and Shanny is 0-4 against them and all losses by 10 points or more. Past Chiefs teams sure, they look a lot more beatable this year, it's kind of frustrating how weak their division is. As compared to the Bills no I've got us ahead of the 49ers, they have a good defense we have a good defense, they have a good offense and we have a good offense, they have a decent QB ours is better and can do more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 hours ago, NewEra said: And how can they tell if AR15 can be a QB when they have trash WRs and RBs? Taylor gets 2 years of gtd money. I don’t see the problem in this particular situation. Taylor will help AR15 more than his WRs will. Jonathon Taylor is amazing. Bills found that out the hard way, as I recall. Richardson can only be helped by this. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 hours ago, NewEra said: And how can they tell if AR15 can be a QB when they have trash WRs and RBs? Taylor gets 2 years of gtd money. I don’t see the problem in this particular situation. Taylor will help AR15 more than his WRs will. Maybe they should throw to Alec Pierce more then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Warcodered said: They do need to make sure they have an O-line around their new Franchise QB so they don't Andrew Luck another one. The Colts already have a pretty good OL as Zach Moss' success in Indy shows. Quenton Nelson is a 3 time All Pro and 4 time Pro Bowler at LG. Their other OLers are competent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 hours ago, FireChans said: https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1710691846001770597?s=46&t=GGNmxHtuMQWK-ZEccAMZsQ Terrible move IMO. Colts trying to compete when they should be trying to see if AR15 can be a QB. A terrible move for the Colts to lock up their best player while their QB is still on his rookie deal? 4 hours ago, Malazan said: This is going to look as good as the Giants paying Barkley They would have been far better off paying Saquon than that ridiculous contract for Jones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 They should have done this before it all hit the fan. They’ve poisoned a well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Bad teams do what bad teams do...pay RBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 They have rookie quarterback on deal for duration of extension and he will be used up by the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Zach Moss has looked more than competent. No reason to have paid Taylor IMO are they preparing to trade Moss? Sell high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Sounds like you are one of those folks who just has supreme confidence in Shanahan despite Mahomes whipping hizass in all 3 career meetings. Add Josh Allen to that and Shanny is 0-4 against them and all losses by 10 points or more. I would LOVE it if the Bills go up against Shanahan in the SB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 9 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Zach Moss has looked more than competent. No reason to have paid Taylor IMO If Zach Moss looks competent, then JT28 will look Einsteinish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Warcodered said: Past Chiefs teams sure, they look a lot more beatable this year, it's kind of frustrating how weak their division is. As compared to the Bills no I've got us ahead of the 49ers, they have a good defense we have a good defense, they have a good offense and we have a good offense, they have a decent QB ours is better and can do more. The way I see it, the current Chiefs team just needs another receiver..........which I suspect they will add by the deadline. Not having another very good team in division gave them the opportunity to give young players a chance to step up. They might even get Juju back for next to nothing and be able to basically run back the same playmaking personnel that put the 49ers D in a blender on the way to a SB victory last year. Also the Chiefs defense looks notably better so far this year than any of the previous times they've played 49ers so I would expect same type of multiple score win. I think the Bills match up better against KC than the 49ers and that's been evidenced in their last few meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: Bad teams do what bad teams do...pay RBs. I don't think bad teams inherently pay RB's. The 49ers are paying CMC big money and they appear to be a really good team both this year and last year when they acquired CMC. The Titans paid Derrick Henry and made the playoffs two years straight (and Henry appears to still be producing at a high level even if the talent around him has fallen off). I will say that paying a RB "big" money is a gamble that is less likely to "pay off" than paying other positions big money but I think in certain circumstances paying a RB is a gamble worth taking. Particularly if you are like the 49ers and Colts who have QB's on rookie deals or the Titans who have a QB on a mid-level or lower contract. I think a very good to great RB helps the development of a young QB in a big way and if the RB is a bust you can absorb that more easily if you are paying a QB peanuts relatively speaking. I think once you have a QB on a big contract you don't have the luxury of giving an RB big money, its simply too much of a gamble and you need those resources elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 19 hours ago, NewEra said: Meanwhile- if you look at the team rushing leaders- of the top 11, 8 of those teams are the top 8 SB favorites. yes, it’s a passing league…..but if you can’t run, you’re one dimensional and have little chance to win a SB imo. Gotta be able to run Yep. Running has become more important again. Every LB has gotten smaller, and if you don't have a top 10 qb how the heck are you gunna compete in this league? Need to be able to at least situationally throw the switch and play keep away/grind yards ball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Richardson and Taylor 👀👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 That deal is great for the Colts. They get the second best RB in the league, who should be the best for the next three years when CMC fades. Then, they can cut and run, right at the time they’d have to pay Richardson, or redraft a QB. The difference Taylor will make for Richardson will make it obvious if Richardson can sustain in the NFL. So you pay for that opportunity to see it too if you’re the Colts. Unfortunately for JT, the bruiser QB will cut into his productivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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