Rich Stadium Original Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1. It is tough to win in today's NFL without a top tier quarterback. 2. Mac Jones isn't it..and not much projected in free agency at the end of the year 3. Except for one season, Belichick has had a hard time winning without a quarterback named Brady. 4. Patriots weren't going anywhere this season anyway. Anybody think Belichick got the head nod from Kraft that it would be okay to suck it up this year for a chance at Caleb Williams and a long term answer in N.E.?...dont forget this is the guy who videotapes other teams practices etc., and would do just about anything to win. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 It would definitely not be the shadiest thing they’ve tried 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I can’t imagine Belichick’s ego would ever allow him to tank. Hell he’s no spring chicken, I don’t think he’s got the luxury of throwing away a season even if that wasn’t the case. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I don't buy it. They were competitive against the Eagles and Dolphins and beat the Jets with Mac. One blow out doesn't make me think they're tanking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) They’re not tanking, they just suck. Edited October 2, 2023 by Maybe Someday 2 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Nope they are just not a good team. I suspect BB’s time in the NFL is short. We shall see… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 If he got Caleb Williams he'll suddenly become an elite coach again lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: I don't buy it. They were competitive against the Eagles and Dolphins and beat the Jets with Mac. One blow out doesn't make me think they're tanking. Are you saying people are overreacting because of 1 game??? That’s blasphemous, that never happens here!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Are you saying people are overreacting because of 1 game??? That’s blasphemous, that never happens here!!! I Digg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 They aren't tanking. He has a .469 win percentage without Brady. 3 winning seasons in 11 without Brady. He's similar to a lot of smart football people who don't have good QBs. He can get you to around 8 or 9 wins a year without a Franchise QB, but he isnt winning a Super Bowl without Brady. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Panthers may pull the old Rosen/Kyler maneuver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 If he isn’t, he sure as hell should start. New England is moving further & further behind the AFCE talent wise. Getting a good QB could instantly get them back into contention. Unfortunately, 8-10 (still feels weird typing these records out) isn’t going to get u a premier draft spot. Bellichick needs to quit the BS and bench Mac Jones already (Zach Wilson should also be benched too for this same reason.) They are better off seeing what Bailey Zappe can do or maybe even a high ceiling practice squad QB because at least there’s an extremely small chance of them actually becoming good. Everybody and their grandma knows Mac Jones will never be anything more than he is which is hot garbarge. Zach Wilson is in his own class of sucking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 They have no talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 If Vegas and New England would like to swap josh McDaniels and bill O’Brien both teams and their offenses would be much better off imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, Rich Stadium Original said: 1. It is tough to win in today's NFL without a top tier quarterback. 2. Mac Jones isn't it..and not much projected in free agency at the end of the year 3. Except for one season, Belichick has had a hard time winning without a quarterback named Brady. 4. Patriots weren't going anywhere this season anyway. Anybody think Belichick got the head nod from Kraft that it would be okay to suck it up this year for a chance at Caleb Williams and a long term answer in N.E.?...dont forget this is the guy who videotapes other teams practices etc., and would do just about anything to win. If BB were 20 years younger , I could se it. But even if true, not likely he'd be around long enough to enjoy the good years Williams may provide. Could see Kraft wanting that, but if Kraft told BB that, think he's try to win even harder. As others have said can't see BB accepting that as to him passing Shula in wins is more important. Plus think overall Pats have too much talent to lose enough to get the #1 overall. 28 minutes ago, dma0034 said: If he got Caleb Williams he'll suddenly become an elite coach again lol There's been many other just as talented college QB's who were total flops in the NFL so I wouldn't count on anything yet for Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMio Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: If BB were 20 years younger , I could se it. But even if true, not likely he'd be around long enough to enjoy the good years Williams may provide. Could see Kraft wanting that, but if Kraft told BB that, think he's try to win even harder. As others have said can't see BB accepting that as to him passing Shula in wins is more important. Plus think overall Pats have too much talent to lose enough to get the #1 overall. Kraft is even older than BB so does it matter lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 minute ago, MafiaMio said: Kraft is even older than BB so does it matter lol Yeah but owners most often own the team till the day they die, and Krafts kid is taking a bigger role every year so he'll likely be owning the team longer than BB is coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Stadium Original Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Started this topic back on Oct 1st...any change of opinions since then? Epically bad on offense (shut out twice this season) At this point, the #2 overall pick. Will have to see if they actually give Cunningham a shot at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Rich Stadium Original said: Started this topic back on Oct 1st...any change of opinions since then? Epically bad on offense (shut out twice this season) At this point, the #2 overall pick. Will have to see if they actually give Cunningham a shot at QB. How dare you?! New England has the 'heir apparent' to Tom Brady! 🤨 📯🌟MJ🏈10🌟📯 ®️©️™️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Isn't he like 20 - 25 wins short of catching Shula's record for most wins by a HC. I doubt he is tanking. He probably won't be the Pats coach next year anyway. He has no QB and no playmakers on offense. His defense is solid. Holding the Chargers to six points is impressive. Losing 6-0 is a throwback to 1960's or 1970's type of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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