BillsFanNC Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 ⬆️ Against Republicans before it was for them... The King! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 https://x.com/jakesherman/status/1716913458741187065?s=46&t=Jf_5fQharG6pLsB8ACvvjQ Tom Emmer has dropped out of the race for speaker. What a clownshow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: https://x.com/jakesherman/status/1716913458741187065?s=46&t=Jf_5fQharG6pLsB8ACvvjQ Tom Emmer has dropped out of the race for speaker. What a clownshow. Wow! He refused to say if Biden won, so he is done. The MAGA people don';t want a functioning government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Or is it the other way around? You can never tell with the hand waving King! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: https://x.com/jakesherman/status/1716913458741187065?s=46&t=Jf_5fQharG6pLsB8ACvvjQ Tom Emmer has dropped out of the race for speaker. I would think that realizing you do not have nearly enough votes to win, dropping out is the correct thing to do. Unless, of course, you want to waste everyone's time and keep the seat vacant. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Would have been the exact opposite of that. Had they gone through with it, the Dems would have helped the GOP elect a Republican speaker for nothing in return. So, creating some stability without extracting concessions. The opposite of a power play to spread chaos. If, however, you’d like to see a power play to spread chaos, the House GOP is right there. A handful of members completely disrupting functioning government because they have the emotional and intellectual bandwidth of toddlers. Interesting take. So by not voting present, they bypassed the on a golden opportunity to have this matter resolved, thus contributing to the problem. That’s just great. 20 minutes ago, Tiberius said: There is, let's see it I don't believe it Open thyne own true eyes, election denier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: https://x.com/jakesherman/status/1716913458741187065?s=46&t=Jf_5fQharG6pLsB8ACvvjQ Tom Emmer has dropped out of the race for speaker. What a clownshow. The Cult said no. So he’s done. Read this and tell me it’s not a Cult as the leader speaks of himself in the third person: “I have many wonderful friends wanting to be Speaker of the House, and some are truly great Warriors,” Mr. Trump wrote on Truth Social. “RINO Tom Emmer, who I do not know well, is not one of them. He never respected the Power of a Trump Endorsement, or the breadth and scope of MAGA—MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Interesting take. So by not voting present, they bypassed the on a golden opportunity to have this matter resolved, thus contributing to the problem. First, they never had this option for Emmer as his candidacy never made it to the floor before it collapsed. Second, every time there has been a vote on the floor, the Dems vote for one candidate who has generally been ending up with most of the votes. Not only would it only take a handful of GOPers to elect a speaker, but the Dems have stated they are open to talking and yet the GOP won’t engage. Third, the GOP is the majority party here. When the Dems had the exact same majority, they were able to figure it out. This is squarely on the GOP. They are reaping what they have sown. Finally, if the situation was reversed and the Dems couldn’t elect a speaker despite having the majority, would you blame the GOP? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Exactly what do the screwy 8 or whatever they’re called expect to happen? They couldn’t even get close with Jordan. Maybe they’re just auditioning for Fox hosting gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 43 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: https://x.com/jakesherman/status/1716913458741187065?s=46&t=Jf_5fQharG6pLsB8ACvvjQ Tom Emmer has dropped out of the race for speaker. What a clownshow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: First, they never had this option for Emmer as his candidacy never made it to the floor before it collapsed. Second, every time there has been a vote on the floor, the Dems vote for one candidate who has generally been ending up with most of the votes. Not only would it only take a handful of GOPers to elect a speaker, but the Dems have stated they are open to talking and yet the GOP won’t engage. Third, the GOP is the majority party here. When the Dems had the exact same majority, they were able to figure it out. This is squarely on the GOP. They are reaping what they have sown. Finally, if the situation was reversed and the Dems couldn’t elect a speaker despite having the majority, would you blame the GOP? I thought both “both side-ism” was anathema to this type of conversation involving politics? You told me so just recently. Next time please don't make me work so hard on this. It is on the GOP, on that we agree. I’m not always convinced that voting in lockstep is indicative of some great democratic tradition, but it’s absolutely true the R party has a whole host of issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Exactly what do the screwy 8 or whatever they’re called expect to happen? They couldn’t even get close with Jordan. Maybe they’re just auditioning for Fox hosting gigs. They don't care what's it matter if no one gets the job and the government shuts down, they don't want the government to do anything anyway and they'll use the shut down as proof that it doesn't work even though they're reason it happened. So either way they win so they'll burn it all down unless they get someone they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 35 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Interesting take. So by not voting present, they bypassed the on a golden opportunity to have this matter resolved, thus contributing to the problem. That’s just great. Always pointing fingers at everyone else but his own corrupt party. Classic MAGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Anything to drop congressional approval ratings below the floor of the ***** house where they currently reside....I'm for. ALL are useless, no matter the team. Flush it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 You and all other libtards are disgusting and repulsive subhumans. Enjoy the excrement you've created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, BillStime said: Always pointing fingers at everyone else but his own corrupt party. Classic MAGA oh the irony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: Always pointing fingers at everyone else but his own corrupt party. Classic MAGA It was Chi’s theory, you probably got confused by the hatefire that burns within you and your tendency to rage without considering what you’re really upset about. I was just confused by what he was suggesting, but he cleared it up for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Anything to stop the machine is good. What has the government done in the last 20 years that made things better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Anything to drop congressional approval ratings below the floor of the ***** house where they currently reside....I'm for. ALL are useless, no matter the team. Flush it all. If anything, this should improve their approval ratings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I thought both “both side-ism” was anathema to this type of conversation involving politics? You told me so just recently. Next time please don't make me work so hard on this. It is on the GOP, on that we agree. I’m not always convinced that voting in lockstep is indicative of some great democratic tradition, but it’s absolutely true the R party has a whole host of issues. It's weird because traditionally the Dems have been the party of trying to herd cats while the GOP has been much better at voting as a solid bloc. That seems to have flipped in recent years. I think a large part of what's keeping the House GOP caucus in disarray is that they feel beholden to the MAGA wing. We saw this when dozens of them voted against Jim Jordan in a secret ballot after having voted for him on a public ballot. There is no platform, no goals, no ideals. Just a requirement to be completely owned by MAGA. That makes compromise within the party difficult and compromising across the aisle verboten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: It's weird because traditionally the Dems have been the party of trying to herd cats while the GOP has been much better at voting as a solid bloc. That seems to have flipped in recent years. I think a large part of what's keeping the House GOP caucus in disarray is that they feel beholden to the MAGA wing. We saw this when dozens of them voted against Jim Jordan in a secret ballot after having voted for him on a public ballot. There is no platform, no goals, no ideals. Just a requirement to be completely owned by MAGA. That makes compromise within the party difficult and compromising across the aisle verboten. I desperately wish I could disagree with you. Effing clown show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It was Chi’s theory, you probably got confused by the hatefire that burns within you and your tendency to rage without considering what you’re really upset about. I was just confused by what he was suggesting, but he cleared it up for me. Based on your history here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 44 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: You and all other libtards are disgusting and repulsive subhumans. Enjoy the excrement you've created. I guess “libtards” are responsible for the Republican crapshow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: I guess “libtards” are responsible for the Republican crapshow. All the libs backed Gaetz, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Pokebball said: All the libs backed Gaetz, no? No. They showed something called party discipline. The Republicans acted like little children — “if you don’t vote for one of us we are taking our ball and going home.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 55 minutes ago, unbillievable said: Anything to stop the machine is good. What has the government done in the last 20 years that made things better? What would you like the government to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Interesting take. So by not voting present, they bypassed the on a golden opportunity to have this matter resolved, thus contributing to the problem. That’s just great. Open thyne own true eyes, election denier. So nothing, you are just a bull shitter Congrats, that's deep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Unforgiven said: You and all other libtards are disgusting and repulsive subhumans. Enjoy the excrement you've created. The first time that you provide anything of substance will be the first time I have ever seen you do it you literally provide nothing here 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: Yup Too bad he was such a spineless coward to stick to it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 48 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: No. They showed something called party discipline. The Republicans acted like little children — “if you don’t vote for one of us we are taking our ball and going home.” It’s not really discipline when Dems, being the minority, had nothing to lose with their vote for Jeffries….anybody can do that… Discipline is knowing your vote might put you in the minority, but you stick to your principles- unlike people like the Squad, who ran on challenging the Dems, but fell in line out of fear…👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: It’s not really discipline when Dems, being the minority, had nothing to lose with their vote for Jeffries….anybody can do that… Discipline is knowing your vote might put you in the minority, but you stick to your principles- unlike people like the Squad, who ran on challenging the Dems, but fell in line out of fear…👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: It’s not really discipline when Dems, being the minority, had nothing to lose with their vote for Jeffries….anybody can do that… Discipline is knowing your vote might put you in the minority, but you stick to your principles- unlike people like the Squad, who ran on challenging the Dems, but fell in line out of fear…👍 I don’t think you understand what discipline means 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I don’t think you understand what discipline means Where I come from it means sticking to your principles, no matter how many arrows it may bring your way- not just following the crowd when it’s convenient and safe…👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Where I come from it means sticking to your principles, no matter how many arrows it may bring your way- not just following the crowd when it’s convenient and safe…👍 The politicians to get things done learn how to compromise you Cant do that when your party loses republicans are going thru that right now Edited October 24, 2023 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Where I come from it means sticking to your principles, no matter how many arrows it may bring your way- not just following the crowd when it’s convenient and safe…👍 Where JFR comes from it means whatever way you can twist it into meaning Republicans bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I don’t think you understand what discipline means Or principles 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: The politicians to get things done learn how to compromise you Cant do that wThe politicians to get things done learn how to compromise Jen your party loses republicans are going to that right now They only compromise to benefit their donors Imo, while the working class gets screwed… Look what compromising on the immigration has done for inner city black and brown people of this country…it certainly hasn’t helped… Look how compromising with their insurance donors has kept Medicare for all away from the people… Not all compromises are positive for the citizens who don’t have power and money…👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: They only compromise to benefit their donors Imo, while the working class gets screwed… Look what compromising on the immigration has done for inner city black and brown people of this country…it certainly hasn’t helped… Look how compromising with their insurance donors has kept Medicare for all away from the people… Not all compromises are positive for the citizens who don’t have power and money…👍 What are you even talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, TH3 said: What are you even talking about? I’m talking about when everyone compromises, the little guy tends to get screwed in favor of big corporate donors… I don’t know who will come out on top for the Republican speaker, but it is nice to see some people standing up to the big donor politicians, to protect our borders, reign in spending, etc… Its refreshing to see that there are still people who won’t just bend over to the elites…👍 Edited October 25, 2023 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: No. They showed something called party discipline. The Republicans acted like little children — “if you don’t vote for one of us we are taking our ball and going home.” You mean party partisanship. I wish there were a dozen common sense, do what's good for the country, on both sides. The House would work so much better. The partisanship ruined the House decades ago. The Dems following Gaetz is simply the latest proof of dysfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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