Walking Tall Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:45 PM, Augie said: Wasn’t there talk of moving Benford to safety last year? Looks like Elam needs to figure it out before we can consider that. But maybe in 2024? Expand Yeah, there was talk of Benford. I’d hate to at least not try Elam at Safety before they wash their hands of him. He is 6’1” and can play a physical game. Quote
BananaB Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 McD can’t get quality play out of any draft pick. Boogie, Aj and now Elam. Wasting picks. We were lucky Benford stepped up, sadly we had to go pay veterans to rush the passer. Trust the process 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 3:38 PM, FrenchConnection said: It's really a numbers game, more than anything else. Benford beat him in camp and played well last week Dane Jackson is the veteran 3rd CB Cam Lewis offers positional flexibility because he can play CB and safety in a pinch Elam doesn't play special teams But it is at this point a really poor draft pick Expand Agree! My take on it is if Benford wasn't on the team, Elam would at a minimum be active and maybe even starting. If the Bills had known they were going to draft Benford and he'd be as good as he has turned out to be, I'm sure things would have been done differently. It's not very often a 6th round pick beats out a 1st rounder particularly from the same draft so that certainly gives this a bad look for the Bills. Diggs was a 5th round pick. I'm sure he's jumped over many players drafted higher than him, but because they weren't likely taken in the same draft, it goes unnoticed and all the talk is about how great Diggs is. With Elam not playing also doesn't give him the in game experience to improve so will take longer. To me though this whole thread should be about how good Benford has become, that to me is the story. 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:39 PM, Coach Tuesday said: Mildly disappointing but I can’t sign up for the pouting here. All GMs miss. Better to miss on an island position than elsewhere on the roster. Process was sound. It’s the rest of that draft I take issue with. Expand Could've chosen Breece Hall with that pick. IJS😎 Quote
Motorin' Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:33 PM, NewEra said: Seems to be a massive fail. Expand I wouldn't read that much into it. The cb chart is deep. And that's a good thing. As soon as he gets his chance he'll take it. 1 Quote
Walking Tall Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:47 PM, BananaB said: McD can’t get quality play out of any draft pick. Boogie, Aj and now Elam. Wasting picks. We were lucky Benford stepped up, sadly we had to go pay veterans to rush the passer. Trust the process Expand Clearly the worst coach in football. The guy just doesn’t know defense, does he? 🙄 2 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 3:35 PM, SoonerBillsFan said: 2nd healthy scratch in a row...time to trade him. Expand Buy high, sell low, 2 games into year 2!! We gotta regular Warren Buffet over here!! Next week I plan to buy a brand new car, drive it off the lot, and sell it a week later! Make sure to spill some pop and crumbs in it, ill let the next owners clean that out. Fingers crossed i make lots of profits 🤞🤞🤞 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 Hopefully things change but a first round pick who cannot get a jersey in year two has to be in bust territory. Hopefully he can turn it around. In his defense his results were on when he played….he will get chances no team stays healthy all year. Quote
Virgil Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 I have no issues with them drafting Elam. It was the right call at the time with Tre being out, Wallace leaving, and Benford not existing yet. I’m frustrated that we haven’t developed or flipped him for something yet. I’ll say it again, play him in the preseason, let him play man, trade him to the Ravens for a third. Elam’s value will only go down from this point. We don’t need him for depth if he’s not even activated. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:49 PM, Motorin' said: I wouldn't read that much into it. The cb chart is deep. And that's a good thing. As soon as he gets his chance he'll take it. Expand Sure, things might work out….As of now….. it’s looks like a massive fail. 1st rd healthy scratches, not good. Quote
nedboy7 Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 They made up for Elam with Benford. No one thought that was a bad pick at the time. Not ideal but not the drama some make it out to be. Quote
BananaB Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:53 PM, Beast said: Clearly the worst coach in football. The guy just doesn’t know defense, does he? 🙄 Expand He might know defense but their is a problem with scouting if guys we draft high never really help us Quote
The 9 Isles Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 Uhhhh….. this season is starting off pretty miserably. 1 Quote
Rocky Landing Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 3:57 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: Likely won't change until there's an injury ahead of him. They played Benford 100% of the snaps last week and seemed very happy with how he played. Jackson is next man up. Not ideal for a former 1st rounder, but it's good we have other dudes that stepped up. Expand Or if Cam Lewis is injured on a ST play. I doubt that Lewis is ahead of Elam on the defensive depth chart, but as a core STer, that certainly put's him over Elam. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 3:31 PM, FireChans said: Make sure we tank his value as much as possible before we shop him Beane! Expand I’m not putting a liability on the field just to give him more value in a hypothetical trade. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted September 17, 2023 Author Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 5:33 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I’m not putting a liability on the field just to give him more value in a hypothetical trade. Expand He doesn’t need to be on the field. He needs to be active lol Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 5:34 PM, FireChans said: He doesn’t need to be on the field. He needs to be active lol Expand What does it matter? He wouldn’t be playing anyways so his value wouldn’t increase plus I am not using a roster spot that could go to a better player. Quote
Rocky Landing Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 There are 11 DBs on this roster, and there's no way they're all going to be active on game day. Elam is obviously #4CB, but Cam Lewis is a core STer, and that moves him up the depth chart. Quote
JaCrispy Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 Play action in the bills bread and butter 👍 Offense is clicking 1 Quote
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