Dan in Owego Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 AFC North AFC East AFC West NFC East AFC South NFC West NFC North NFC South AFC is going to be a blood bath this year, really need to go 5-1 and take it. By that I mean in division 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I'd probably put the AFC South at the bottom where every team but Jax is pretty bad where the NFC South has a good Saints team and the Bucs should be decent if Baker plays like he did for the Rams last year, Atlanta might be half decent too. Agree with everything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Yea AFC South and NFC South the two worst. I think I'd have NFC North a spot or two higher too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I like that you put the AFCN over the AFCE. For all the talk of our division, if Pickett makes any kind of jump and Watson, at all, resembles the guy he used to be.. that division is incredible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I'll grade # of playoff caliber teams: AFC East: 3 AFC North: 2 AFC West: 2 AFC South: 1 NFC East: 3 NFC North: 2 NFC West: 3 NFC South: 2 Full rank based on the above numbers, then last season's results: 1. NFC East 2. AFC East 3. NFC West 4. AFC West 5. AFC North 6. NFC North 7. NFC South 8. AFC South Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, SCBills said: I like that you put the AFCN over the AFCE. For all the talk of our division, if Pickett makes any kind of jump and Watson, at all, resembles the guy he used to be.. that division is incredible. I absolutely love the Steelers this year. I think they take at least 2nd in their division. For my money TJ Watt is the best defensive player in the game. He missed 7 games last year. Steelers make the playoffs last year if he played all 17. They were 8-2 in games he played in and 1-6 in the games he missed. Games he missed included: 17-14 loss to NE 16-10 loss to Miami 24-20 loss to NY Jets I think they easily win two out of those three games with TJ Watt. And he probably ends Tua's season even earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, SCBills said: I like that you put the AFCN over the AFCE. For all the talk of our division, if Pickett makes any kind of jump and Watson, at all, resembles the guy he used to be.. that division is incredible. 🤔 I am unsure if that's ⬆️ what you meant... Edited September 2, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Dan in Owego said: AFC North AFC East AFC West NFC East AFC South NFC West NFC North NFC South AFC is going to be a blood bath this year, really need to go 5-1 and take it. By that I mean in division 100% agree with your top 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 AFC dominance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 The bottom two teams of the AFCW could, in theory, be very bad, like 5 wins bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 hours ago, SCBills said: I like that you put the AFCN over the AFCE. For all the talk of our division, if Pickett makes any kind of jump and Watson, at all, resembles the guy he used to be.. that division is incredible. Absolutely agree all 4 teams are going to tough outs for anyone. I also agree on watson and Pickett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) Dan, thanks first for starting this thread. Some of our opinions vary, but at least we can have a polite conversation. AFCN- 4 AFCE- 3 NFCE- 3 (It’s hard to believe the NFC Least has to turned maybe into Beasts) NFCW- 2 (Everyone acknowledges the 49ers is probably the 2nd best team in the NFC, but a number of people are overlooking Seattle) AFCW- 2 (I’ll believe it when I see Denver produce with Wilson) AFCS- 1 (It’s the Jags and that’s about it. People don’t really want to admit that Pederson has turned that team around) NFCN- 1 (The Vikings had a horseshoe so big the size of Montana last year). Detroit is the only real threat. NFCS- 1 (The Saints are a complete team minus Carr with a corral of weapons. Someone mentioned the Bucs. They are a dumpster fire and I live here) I guess I should note, I placed 17 teams in a 14 race, but my point to be clear is I see 17 eligibles. We’ll see how it plays out. Edited September 2, 2023 by machine gun kelly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Charles Romes said: The bottom two teams of the AFCW could, in theory, be very bad, like 5 wins bad. Yeah I'm not high on Denver or LV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1. AFC East 2. AFC North 3. AFC West 4. NFC East 5. NFC North 6. NFC West 7. AFC South 8. NFC South I am predicting whoever wins the NFC South will have a losing record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 I feel that the falcons will surprise this year, of all NFL franchises they seem to be the one that has a crazy good year totally as an outlier most often. Heck of a lot of talent on the offensive line, and some unique talents at the skill positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 23 hours ago, SCBills said: I like that you put the AFCN over the AFCE. For all the talk of our division, if Pickett makes any kind of jump and Watson, at all, resembles the guy he used to be.. that division is incredible. There are so many "ifs" in AFC North 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, ganesh said: There are so many "ifs" in AFC North Same with our division. Bills/Bengals Dolphins/Ravens Jets/Browns Patriots/Steelers -Bills/Bengals are the top teams on paper. -Can Lamar & Tua stay healthy? -How does it look for Rodgers & Watson?.. both on talented rosters. -Can Jones & Pickett make a jump? I have more faith in Rodgers than I do Watson, but conversely, I have more faith in Pickett than Jones.. and that Steelers roster is much better than the Patriots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 No way AFCN over AFCE. Come on. IF Pinkett...and IF Watson...and IF Jackson. Pinkett is a low voltage turnover machine (7 passing TD in 12 games, 9 INTs, 4 fumbles). Watson has played 6 (bad) games since 2020. He's had one above average season in his career. Most overrated QB in the NFL right now. Jackson has played 24 games in the last 2 years and chose to watch his team lose form the sidelines in the playoffs. Likely the same this year. Not so many "ifs" in the AFCE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: No way AFCN over AFCE. Come on. IF Pinkett...and IF Watson...and IF Jackson. Pinkett is a low voltage turnover machine (7 passing TD in 12 games, 9 INTs, 4 fumbles). Watson has played 6 (bad) games since 2020. He's had one above average season in his career. Most overrated QB in the NFL right now. Jackson has played 24 games in the last 2 years and chose to watch his team lose form the sidelines in the playoffs. Likely the same this year. Not so many "ifs" in the AFCE. So was Allen his first year. 10 TD 12 INT and 8 fumbles. And it is Pickett not Pinkett. Pickett may yet get better only time will tell. Allen Pinkett retired along time ago and was a RB. Funny if you google him, the first 3 pics of him are him running against the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: So was Allen his first year. 10 TD 12 INT and 8 fumbles. And it is Pickett not Pinkett. Pickett may yet get better only time will tell. Allen Pinkett retired along time ago and was a RB. Funny if you google him, the first 3 pics of him are him running against the Bills. Josh Rosen had 11/14 and 10.... Pickett is not Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 On 9/2/2023 at 10:41 AM, Dan in Owego said: AFC North AFC East AFC West NFC East AFC South NFC West NFC North NFC South AFC is going to be a blood bath this year, really need to go 5-1 and take it. By that I mean in division Your top 4 are for sure the order and the bottom 4 are debatable but honestly I’d probably have them about the same with the nfc west above the afc south only because I could legitimately see SF, SEA and LAR making the playoffs and the cardinals pulling the bottom down on that division as probably the worst team in football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: So was Allen his first year. 10 TD 12 INT and 8 fumbles. And it is Pickett not Pinkett. Pickett may yet get better only time will tell. Allen Pinkett retired along time ago and was a RB. Funny if you google him, the first 3 pics of him are him running against the Bills. Pickett has two good WR in Pickens and Johnson along with a very reliable TE in Friermuth. If their OL holds up, Pickett could make a transition to a good QB in year 2. Steelers have a good defense and have added more in the draft. However, I am not sure if they have the necessary firepower to overpower the Bengals who are a very balanced team with a great QB 31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Josh Rosen had 11/14 and 10.... Pickett is not Allen. Pickett doesn't need to be Allen and I think the Steelers have assembled a good offense around Pickett. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 6 hours ago, ganesh said: Pickett has two good WR in Pickens and Johnson along with a very reliable TE in Friermuth. If their OL holds up, Pickett could make a transition to a good QB in year 2. Steelers have a good defense and have added more in the draft. However, I am not sure if they have the necessary firepower to overpower the Bengals who are a very balanced team with a great QB Pickett doesn't need to be Allen and I think the Steelers have assembled a good offense around Pickett. with Pickens, Johnson and Friermuth, he would have to be better than Josh Allen to make a playoff run. He's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: with Pickens, Johnson and Friermuth, he would have to be better than Josh Allen to make a playoff run. He's not. Uhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: 1. AFC East 2. AFC North 3. AFC West 4. NFC East 5. NFC North 6. NFC West 7. AFC South 8. NFC South I am predicting whoever wins the NFC South will have a losing record. Noted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: No way AFCN over AFCE. Come on. IF Pinkett...and IF Watson...and IF Jackson. Pinkett is a low voltage turnover machine (7 passing TD in 12 games, 9 INTs, 4 fumbles). Watson has played 6 (bad) games since 2020. He's had one above average season in his career. Most overrated QB in the NFL right now. Jackson has played 24 games in the last 2 years and chose to watch his team lose form the sidelines in the playoffs. Likely the same this year. Not so many "ifs" in the AFCE. Really? Seems like an iffy situation there too. If Tua’s brain can stay unscrambled. If Mac Jones has made serious strides. If a 40 y/o Rodgers can stay clean behind that line. These divisions are going to cannibalize themselves to a large degree. The big factor for me is the AFCN plays the NFCW and AFCS, which looks softer than the AFCE’s slate of NFCE and AFCW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 11 hours ago, iinii said: Really? Seems like an iffy situation there too. If Tua’s brain can stay unscrambled. If Mac Jones has made serious strides. If a 40 y/o Rodgers can stay clean behind that line. These divisions are going to cannibalize themselves to a large degree. The big factor for me is the AFCN plays the NFCW and AFCS, which looks softer than the AFCE’s slate of NFCE and AFCW NE isn't in the picture. Everyone on the planet would put up Allen, Tua and Rodgers against Mahomes Watson and Pickett. come on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 21 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Josh Rosen had 11/14 and 10.... Pickett is not Allen. Pickett started poorly as a rookie but showed considerable progress late in the season. He has looked good in his limited play in preseason (and not just against the Bills). He doesn't have to be Josh Allen to be a good/excellent NFL QB for Mike Tomlin's Steelers. 12 hours ago, iinii said: Really? Seems like an iffy situation there too. If Tua’s brain can stay unscrambled. If Mac Jones has made serious strides. If a 40 y/o Rodgers can stay clean behind that line. These divisions are going to cannibalize themselves to a large degree. The big factor for me is the AFCN plays the NFCW and AFCS, which looks softer than the AFCE’s slate of NFCE and AFCW This is my take as well, especially the AFCN. I think that the Ravens and Steelers are closer to the Bengals than the Jets and Fins are to the Bills, particularly because of Harbaugh and Tomlin. If Watson resurrects his early form, Cleveland can become a formidable force in the league, capable of beating any team because their D is damn good. NE doesn't have nearly the talent that the Brown have. 42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: NE isn't in the picture. Everyone on the planet would put up Allen, Tua and Rodgers against Mahomes Watson and Pickett. come on... The Patriots are always "in the picture" with Belichick as HC, especially in divisional games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 22 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Josh Rosen had 11/14 and 10.... Pickett is not Allen. Lol. You don't know that and neither do I. Half this board was ready to move on from Allen after season 1. All I hope is he beats the Browns and the Browns miss the playoffs. The delusion on Cleveland radio is epic. I cant wait for Watson to suck and this town I work in melts down. 21 hours ago, ganesh said: Pickett has two good WR in Pickens and Johnson along with a very reliable TE in Friermuth. If their OL holds up, Pickett could make a transition to a good QB in year 2. Steelers have a good defense and have added more in the draft. However, I am not sure if they have the necessary firepower to overpower the Bengals who are a very balanced team with a great QB Pickett doesn't need to be Allen and I think the Steelers have assembled a good offense around Pickett. I agree they will battle Ravens for second place at best in taht division. I routinely underestimate the Ravens, but they look like an organization taht needs sweeping change. Just hope Browns finish last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, SoTier said: Pickett started poorly as a rookie but showed considerable progress late in the season. He has looked good in his limited play in preseason (and not just against the Bills). He doesn't have to be Josh Allen to be a good/excellent NFL QB for Mike Tomlin's Steelers. This is my take as well, especially the AFCN. I think that the Ravens and Steelers are closer to the Bengals than the Jets and Fins are to the Bills, particularly because of Harbaugh and Tomlin. If Watson resurrects his early form, Cleveland can become a formidable force in the league, capable of beating any team because their D is damn good. NE doesn't have nearly the talent that the Brown have. The Patriots are always "in the picture" with Belichick as HC, especially in divisional games. As the season went on,. Pickett didn't get much better. Check out his stats. He was all over the place. And that Steelers O isn't exactly loaded. It's decent. 55 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Lol. You don't know that and neither do I. Half this board was ready to move on from Allen after season 1. All I hope is he beats the Browns and the Browns miss the playoffs. The delusion on Cleveland radio is epic. I cant wait for Watson to suck and this town I work in melts down. I agree they will battle Ravens for second place at best in taht division. I routinely underestimate the Ravens, but they look like an organization taht needs sweeping change. Just hope Browns finish last. Citing "half the board" isn't the best argument. My point was that it is more likely that Pickett turns out like Rosen than Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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