Yantha Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: When Q was cut, I expected a move. I don't see any way McDermott would be comfortable with having our Backups at OT being two guys who have never played a regular season snap before. Though a 1st Round Pick who didn't get his 5th year option picked up and then was released early by 2 teams already this offseason doesn't invoke a lot of faith in me. But at least he has starting experience and has attributes that made him a 1st Rounder. I'd call this a lateral move. Not so much an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Keep Dodson and cut Matakevich. Dodson is not the S/T player that Matakevich is. And if we sign Kirksey, Dodsons role is relegated to 2nd/3rd string...where we have a 2nd year player in Bernard (who isn't going to be much worse, likely similar or better in some aspects). Then likely Klein on P/S, again not much drop off from Dodson, if any. All contingent on signing Kirskey, but Dodson has no role IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Good not great veteran backup/spot starter. You think we’re going to get great back up right now? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 45.4 rating on PFF in 2022 (on 8 snaps) Edited August 30, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Dodson is not the S/T player that Matakevich is. And if we sign Kirksey, Dodsons role is relegated to 2nd/3rd string...where we have a 2nd year player in Bernard (who isn't going to be much worse, likely similar or better in some aspects). Then likely Klein on P/S, again not much drop off from Dodson, if any. All contingent on signing Kirskey, but Dodson has no role IMO. I’m gonna let everyone know right now. Bernard is not an nfl MLB Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: 45.4 rating on PFF in 2022 My god beane. Someone worse than saffold 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Dodson is not the S/T player that Matakevich is. And if we sign Kirksey, Dodsons role is relegated to 2nd/3rd string...where we have a 2nd year player in Bernard (who isn't going to be much worse, likely similar or better in some aspects). Then likely Klein on P/S, again not much drop off from Dodson, if any. All contingent on signing Kirskey, but Dodson has no role IMO. Great points! Hopefully Kirksey signs. Dodson and Matakevich are both at the bottom of the 53 for me as well and I am fine with both not being on roster in order to keep the extra OT (Ifedi) and Kirksey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wettlaufer Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Why do we need 10 offensive linemen? How is this guy more valuable than Boogie Basham when we only have two DEs under contract for next year? 🤔 Offensive lineman represent about 22% of a team's players on the field in a game (five linemen on all offensive plays, 50/50 snap distribution between offense and D). If there are 10 OL on the roster, that's 18% of the roster. Sounds right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: He’s no Bobby Hart but I’ll allow it. I mean.... isn't that like.... a good thing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Thank you. Good signing 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I thought it was a little weird that they cut our vet backups. I know they weren't very good but they have always tried to keep vets in reserve. On another note, this guy must not have gotten the scoop about the strip clubs before he signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: That's the objective. Are we sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 40 minutes ago, balln said: I’m gonna let everyone know right now. Bernard is not an nfl MLB My god beane. Someone worse than saffold PFF grades are throwing random darts. They gave Torrence a similar grade in the preseason game where he was solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Haha. Can’t make this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: 45.4 rating on PFF in 2022 (on 8 snaps) PFF isn't inherently trustworthy in the best of circumstances, but like you said his 2022 grade is based on just 8 total snaps which makes that grade meaningless. And every one of those snaps was a run block. He's a better pass blocker. Here are his pass block/run block grades from 2020 and 2021 when he had 1,115 and 412 snaps respectively: 2020: Pass block - 65.6 Run block - 62.2 2021: Pass block - 70.7 Run block - 58.6 Those pass block numbers put him in a mid-backup to low end starter tier by PFF's metrics. I'm satisfied with Van Demark and Ifedi as the LT/RT backups. They're both better than Quessenberry at this stage of his career IMO, the only advantage he had over them is that he takes up one roster spot instead of two. Edited August 30, 2023 by HappyDays 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Oh Beane😔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Just now, Airseven said: Oh Beane😔 okay I’ll play. Who else would you have liked for backup OT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: okay I’ll play. Who else would you have liked for backup OT? No clue. But I’ve seen Ifedi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Airseven said: No clue. But I’ve seen Ifedi. How much have you seen him play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 hours ago, balln said: My god. Enough with Carolina You are aware that a right tackle plays on the offensive side of the ball, correct? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: okay I’ll play. Who else would you have liked for backup OT? The obvious answer is Jason Peters but something tells me he wasn't interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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