Mr. WEO Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Rico said: Ruben Brown was garbage in comparison to Jason Peters. It was his top notch BBQ that got him voted into all those PBs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It was his top notch BBQ that got him voted into all those PBs... If you needed a mistake made at the worst possible time, you could always count on Ruben Brown. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 It’s been miserable watching Peters the past couple seasons. Full credit to the guy for sticking it out. But gimping off the field every other drive must get tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It was his top notch BBQ that got him voted into all those PBs... Ahhh, so that's what it was! To be fair, I'd vote for anyone who bribed me with top notch BBQ too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Isn't he 900 years old? Not until January. 3 hours ago, AuntieEm said: Then why pay 250 mil plus for a Franchise QB if you plan to Nicole and dime keeping him healthy and earning his contract. Does this mean Josh has broken up with Jerry Seinfeld's sister? 2 hours ago, BigDingus said: Ruben Brown also made 9 x Pro Bowls (and 4 x All Pro as well), but many Bills fans still don't think he was that good! Do we think Jason Peters was worthy of all 9 Pro Bowls, or did he coast off his name & previous achievements for the latter ones? 😉 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: According to some Bills fans Pro Bowls only seem to count when not playing for Buffalo. Mmmmm... bias or reverse-bias aside, Ruben couldn't carry Peters' Gatorade bottle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Mmmmm... bias or reverse-bias aside, Ruben couldn't carry Peters' Gatorade bottle. Sir, Ruben Brown is an all time Bills great! You put some respect on that name! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Fitz didn't leave, they ran him out of town on a rail. If asking him to restructure and him refusing is running him out of town, then sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, benderbender said: If asking him to restructure and him refusing is running him out of town, then sure. It wasn't a restructure, they wanted money back. Idiot Bills went with EJ and two other rookies. One of Brandon's worst moves as GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Having watched the first half of the preseason game I am suddenly very intrigued by this idea. We have to do something. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Having watched the first half of the preseason game I am suddenly very intrigued by this idea. We have to do something. at this point I would trade the house for a really good RT.. Just get it done... Beane has to see that Brown is a backup at BEST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Jason Peters in street clothes looks better than any OT we have. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Move Dawkins to RT and start Peters at LT They are too stubborn to even consider Edited August 20, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Move Dawkins to RT and start Peters at LT They are too stubborn to even consider What makes you think Dawkins can play RT. Everyone thinks these players are interchangeable from left to right. they not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: What makes you think Dawkins can play RT. Everyone thinks these players are interchangeable from left to right. they not. I thought Dion played RT in college? Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: What makes you think Dawkins can play RT. Everyone thinks these players are interchangeable from left to right. they not. Peters has played RT. Start him there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, jlgarsh said: Peters has played RT. Start him there. Yea for us lol. And Ralph showed his colors and didn’t want to pay him what he was worth on the left side. I think he played rt for Vick who was left handed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 All right, looks like Doyle's down for a minute. I want peters, now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I thought Dion played RT in college? Am I wrong? and you think after all these years, he going to be just fine playing RT? his RT snaps in college were limited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: and you think after all these years, he going to be just fine playing RT? his RT snaps in college were limited well, we badly need something at OT. What’s your idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: @Doc and @Mr. WEO agreeing?!? Cats and dogs sleeping together???? NEVER CROSS THE STREAMS! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: well, we badly need something at OT. What’s your idea? Its been said already Peters RT. IDK anything. I am not the GM. But any fan can see what we have at RT is not working. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Real question… can Peters even make it through a whole season if he has to be put in? That’s a tall order for a lot of guys on the older side of 30 years old. 40 y/o??? 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I’d sign Robert L Peters at this point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, BBFL said: Real question… can Peters even make it through a whole season if he has to be put in? That’s a tall order for a lot of guys on the older side of 30 years old. 40 y/o??? 😬 He can’t be worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, jlgarsh said: He can’t be worse. Heard that before… It can indeed be worse. 😂🫠 Edited August 20, 2023 by BBFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I imagine Dawkins would be bad at RT. He’s a finesse guy that just wants to pass protect speed rushers. He looks like a marshmallow. Can’t imagine he’s strong enough to play RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Jason Peters at age 50 would be a better option than Brown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, SCBills said: I’d sign Robert L Peters at this point. He doesn't need the money. Edited August 20, 2023 by Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 They should sign him… and then immediately call up Derrick Dokery and sign him for $10 more just for old times sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 They might as well offer Joey Porter Sr one of them 1 year contracts. He's only 46. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Sign this man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Something has to be done before JA gets injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Why we are at it, bring back Terrell Owen's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Didn't he piss on the organization and city after he left in FA? No. He didn't say anything. He and his agent let the Bills negotiate thru the media. They eventually traded him and he got paid. The Bills front office was a complete dumpster fire then. They signed him to an extension as a RT........knowing but not articulating that they intended to let their LT walk in UFA and move him there.........and then after moving him they went out and paid a free agent guard and RT more than him. They weren't acting in good faith.........and when it comes to a rare, All-Pro type talent at a premium position you have to treat that player a lot differently. See how the Bills treated guys like Allen and Diggs when they had multiple years remaining on their contracts, for example. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 IIRC, they tried Dawkins at RT his rookie year and he was a dud. He was much better on the left side and primarily played there at Temple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: lol there he is! Never a hater. My thoughts on the value of the LT position in general (see Joe Thomas) flavor my view of any that get into the Hall. I've made that clear. But to suggest that is why I don't think it is wise to hire a 42 y/o guy (by the end of the season) because he is a former Bills icon isn't your strongest argument. Had Peters not this week said he feels he can still play, you were not calling for the Bills to find him and sign him. No, you literally mocked the idea that he was going to go into the HOF because you were ignorant about his career.........and then that very night he was playing on MNF and the announcers were speaking matter-of-factly about his HOF career........it became a topic on TSW..........and you shut your pie hole about the quality of his play and now have changed your argument. And what point are you trying to make that I "(was) not calling for the Bills to find him and sign him" until he decided he still wanted to play(and the primary veteran RT competition retired and the over RT reserves have looked terrible)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: No, you literally mocked the idea that he was going to go into the HOF because you were ignorant about his career.........and then that very night he was playing on MNF and the announcers were speaking matter-of-factly about his HOF career........it became a topic on TSW..........and you shut your pie hole about the quality of his play and now have changed your argument. And what point are you trying to make that I "(was) not calling for the Bills to find him and sign him" until he decided he still wanted to play(and the primary veteran RT competition retired and the over RT reserves have looked terrible)? he's a "perennial HOFer"! On a bad team, a "HOF" T is like a 3rd testicle. Recount for me your top 10 Peters games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, BBFL said: Real question… can Peters even make it through a whole season if he has to be put in? That’s a tall order for a lot of guys on the older side of 30 years old. 40 y/o??? 😬 Right now he wants to be on roster week 1 so he is paid for entire year. 1 hour ago, jlgarsh said: Jason Peters at age 50 would be a better option than Brown. Sure if you are an opposition fan or DC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Well his price just went up… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Doc said: Cash-to-cap had nothing to do with it. He wanted a new deal when he had 2 years left on the deal they gave him a year earlier than they needed to. They were set to give him the deal he wanted (between $8-10M/year) after the 2008 season but he had already decided to leave and ended up making $10M/year in 2009 anyway. I was a huge Jason Peters fan. I loved the story of how he went from UDFA to All-Pro OL with the Bills. Then he pulled that stunt. Again I saw his team win a SB without him playing, being replaced by a JAG (Vaitai). His presence wouldn't have made a difference in winning and losing given the teams they fielded. As I said in another post.........you don't treat a superstar talent the way the Bills did and expect to keep them. They signed him to a RT contract........then moved him to LT.........then signed two lesser players to bigger contracts to play lesser positions. How do you think that level of treatment would have gone over with Josh Allen or Stef Diggs? You operate in good faith with superstars because ultimately they decide whether they are going to play for you or make you trade them. You probably know that NOW............ but you were younger and dumber then and probably didn't realize that NFL teams knew that Peters was a first round athletic talent but that his coaching staff at Arkansas undermined him in the draft process because they were incensed that he had declared early. They had refused to showcase his skills to that point because he didn't fit their antiquated old school ways. Peters wasn't a Rudy story that should have just been grateful to be given a chance in the NFL. He was a dominant talent that got mishandled in college and screwed by those people who were entrusted by his family to work in his best interests...........so when the Bills then tried to exploit him he wasn't down to get mistreated again. You got up in your emotions about it.........like a lot of Bills fans..........when you should have just understood/accepted that the reality was that some team was ABSO*****INLUTELY going to trade for him and treat him like a superstar. At the post-trade press conference Andy Reid said that Jason Peters was "the Peyton Manning of Left Tackles". Would you stay at the hospital or clinic you work at if you got treated like the Bills treated Peters relative to his open market worth? Not if your skills are in demand..........so you can front all you want.........you are at best a hypocrite for resenting him for wanting to work somewhere that he was really appreciated, paid what he was worth and maybe even had a chance to succeed(which he did not with the terrible Bills front office). 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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