Gregg Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Hope nobody had a trip planned for Hawaii. It's awful what is going there. The western side of Maui has suffered the most damage according to the news reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD4Bills Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Horrific. Problem is that in places like Lahaina there is literally no place to go other than trying to flee into the ocean when fire sweeps down from the hills. Honeymooned on Maui 36 years ago...looks like the the place we stayed in Lahaina took a direct hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 The need for increased controlled burns and growing native grasses is too easily forgotten. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 The first thing I thought of when I heard there were massive fires in Lahaina I thought of the huge banyon tree. I wonder if it survived this 😞 Chris Berman used to talk about Lahaina a lot. There are a lot of heartbroken people today over this tragic event. Lord have Mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 4 hours ago, DD4Bills said: Horrific. Problem is that in places like Lahaina there is literally no place to go other than trying to flee into the ocean when fire sweeps down from the hills. Honeymooned on Maui 36 years ago...looks like the the place we stayed in Lahaina took a direct hit. additionally, supply chain for recovery will be monumentally more challenging than most US disaster recoveries. Along with temp shelter for locals and rebuilders. just a ton of challenges associated with this devastation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I was on Oahu and the Big Island in April. It’s understandable how some people would have trouble evacuating as other than Oahu the other islands don’t have a lot of options for roads, especially outside of the towns. On the Big Island there is one main road that rings around the perimeter of the island, and one main road that cuts across the middle from east to west. And in some parts it’s only 2 lanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I have a group of friends that all recently bought tickets/airfare to the Maui Invitational basketball tournament in November. It doesn’t look like it’s going to happen now. Looks like the group’s alternative idea is to spend the time in Vegas though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, PastaJoe said: I was on Oahu and the Big Island in April. It’s understandable how some people would have trouble evacuating as other than Oahu the other islands don’t have a lot of options for roads, especially outside of the towns. On the Big Island there is one main road that rings around the perimeter of the island, and one main road that cuts across the middle from east to west. And in some parts it’s only 2 lanes. Same. What dates were you there. I was April 17-may 2nd. Those two lane roads suck(looking at you Saddle Rd). No lights or yellow lights that don't light up much because of the observatory. I understand why there's so many deaths on them. Then if there's an issue there's no way to go around because of all the lava rocks. My family tried to get me to stay. No way. It's nice to visit but there's not a chance I'd attempt to live there. Edited August 10, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Same. What dates were you there. I was April 17-may 2nd. Those two lane roads suck(looking at you Saddle Rd). No lights or yellow lights that don't light up much because of the observatory. I understand why there's so many deaths on them. Then if there's an issue there's no way to go around because of all the lava rocks. My family tried to get me to stay. No way. It's nice to visit but there's not a chance I'd attempt to live there. I was there the first two weeks in April, so before you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) I guess this would be the place to ask @GoBills808 you OK, man? Your farm on the Big Island I think, not as hard hit as Oahu but still seeing fires? 11 hours ago, muppy said: The first thing I thought of when I heard there were massive fires in Lahaina I thought of the huge banyon tree. I wonder if it survived this 😞 Chris Berman used to talk about Lahaina a lot. There are a lot of heartbroken people today over this tragic event. Lord have Mercy. They posted before and after fire pictures of the banyan tree, it's still standing but looks as though it is badly burnt https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/lahaina-banyan-tree.html Edited August 11, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I guess this would be the place to ask @GoBills808 you OK, man? Your farm on the Big Island I think, not as hard hit as Oahu but still seeing fires? yes ty we had a couple little fires early tuesday morning but nothing major...ran irrigation lines all over the place lol maui is the island that took it the worst Lahaina is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: yes ty we had a couple little fires early tuesday morning but nothing major...ran irrigation lines all over the place lol maui is the island that took it the worst Lahaina is gone Glad to know it, Man. Stay safe. Really tough break for a lot of folks, though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 8 hours ago, GoBills808 said: yes ty we had a couple little fires early tuesday morning but nothing major...ran irrigation lines all over the place lol maui is the island that took it the worst Lahaina is gone I met a guy at a pizza shop in Kona who had a Kia with a Hawaii “BILLS” license plate. Was that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 hours ago, PastaJoe said: I met a guy at a pizza shop in Kona who had a Kia with a Hawaii “BILLS” license plate. Was that you? Not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) Check out what this kid had to do: https://weather.com/news/weather/video/teen-evades-approaching-maui-fire-hours-pass-in-ocean?pl=pl-latest-forecasts-Topic Edited August 11, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) Was playing a trip to Kaanapali Beach(just north of Lahaina) and Oahu for the spring, and just changed our plans to Oahu only because of the crazy cost of hotels on Maui. As it turns out, we now would not be going to Maui either way. 😞 Edited August 12, 2023 by LabattBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) anecdotal Cool story: today my church hosted a once a year massive Rummage Sale with proceeds used to fund missions . Towards the end of the sale when we usually are packing up goods that haven't sold to donate to Goodwill a member showed up named Joy and she is Hawaiian. She announced that she has a contact with ability to ship relief items to Maui. She and a few people took mens, womens and kids clothes and they will be arriving. shortly. I'm talking about 10 48 gallon garbage bags FULL of stuff. I would not be surprised to read of more efforts to aid and money raised for Maui in these next days. They surely need it. Edited August 12, 2023 by muppy 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Absolutely crazy. Was in Maui about a year ago. One of the best trips we have ever been on. Mostly in Wailea, but spent time in Kanapali and Lahaina. just hope they can get this under control and rebuild and recover as fast as they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Looks like a lawsuit has been filed. https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/wildfires/2023/08/09/maui-wildfires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Kia Kaha to my Pacific brothers and sisters up North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, T&C said: Looks like a lawsuit has been filed. https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/wildfires/2023/08/09/maui-wildfires They're going to blame the corporations over their own government who did not do their civil obligation to protect the natural resources? Refusing to burn, refusing to take care of the grasslands and woodlands, and simply allowing overcrowding to occur is sad. Insurance will offer a payout and hopefully he power company ups the charges back on the people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Death toll approaching 100 and reported that only 3% of the hardest hit areas have been searched with cadaver dogs. Just heartbreaking. 😞 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) On 8/11/2023 at 7:59 AM, PastaJoe said: I met a guy at a pizza shop in Kona who had a Kia with a Hawaii “BILLS” license plate. Was that you? Lol that's my uncle Bill. Seriously. Edited August 16, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 2:11 AM, LabattBlue said: Death toll approaching 100 and reported that only 3% of the hardest hit areas have been searched with cadaver dogs. Just heartbreaking. 😞 will go higher predicted doubling at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Up to 106 as of this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Lol that's my uncle Bill. Seriously. Small world. I took a picture of it but it’s too big to post here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, PastaJoe said: Small world. I took a picture of it but it’s too big to post here. Yeah the only pics I have of it are too big as well. Did he have the logo on the back window yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Yeah the only pics I have of it are too big as well. Did he have the logo on the back window yet? Yes. Send me your email and I’ll send it to you. It might be him in the picture coming out of the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 5:45 PM, LabattBlue said: Was playing a trip to Kaanapali Beach(just north of Lahaina) and Oahu for the spring, and just changed our plans to Oahu only because of the crazy cost of hotels on Maui. As it turns out, we now would not be going to Maui either way. 😞 Stayed there twice, spent a lot of time in Lahaina while visiting. It is/was my favorite place in the world. So beauitful, loved the island vibe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 They are offering these people $700.00. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) Sleazy real estate developers looking to take advantage of people who have lost everything by trying to buy up their property that has been burned to the ground…and I would venture to guess it is well below market value. Edited August 17, 2023 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 hours ago, T&C said: They are offering these people $700.00. Lol 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: Sleazy real estate developers looking to take advantage of people who have lost everything by trying to buy up their property that has been burned to the ground. . I'm wondering how much an ocean-front house in Hawaii is worth. Most of the residents will probably sell their property to Oprah and move to a lower cost of living state, like Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, unbillievable said: . I'm wondering how much an ocean-front house in Hawaii is worth. Most of the residents will probably sell their property to Oprah and move to a lower cost of living state, like Texas. This “gem” in the center of Lahaini sold two years ago for 825k. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1073-Front-St-Lahaina-HI-96761/758684_zpid/ Edited August 16, 2023 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: This “gem” in the center of Lahaini sold two years ago for 825k. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1073-Front-St-Lahaina-HI-96761/758684_zpid/ Million dollar homes.... How does an insurance assessor determine replacement value for an entire city? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 41 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Sleazy real estate developers looking to take advantage of people who have lost everything by trying to buy up their property that has been burned to the ground…and I would venture to guess it is wel below market value I get the buy low sell high concept but these sharks are quite simply gross. These people lost every possession they had.. ***** all of these scumbags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/16/2023 at 8:24 AM, Not at the table Karlos said: Yeah the only pics I have of it are too big as well. Did he have the logo on the back window yet? Read thread I put in customer service board on posting larger images https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/248101-how-to-to-get-larger-images-to-be-posted/#comment-8447461 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Read thread I put in customer service board on posting larger images https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/248101-how-to-to-get-larger-images-to-be-posted/#comment-8447461 I don't have permission to view it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: I don't have permission to view it. Evidently you can put questions in Customer Service forum but no one but moderators can see it. Maybe it was abused in past by spammers. Defeats purpose of creating thread to help out with frequent question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Horrifying. The local news has been consumed by this and you just can't take yourself away from each individual horror story. Gonna end up being the worst fire in American history. Shouldn't happen in modern times. We're super dry in the state generally, though. Wednesday I drove next to a brush fire on Wednesday in Wahiawa that burned 450 acres. Today I heard there was another brush fire on Old Farrington Road between where I live and where my in-laws live. @GoBills808 I'm glad you and your farm are okay. Big Island so frequently gets hit hard... glad you were spared of this. Need the rainy season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/16/2023 at 6:08 PM, LabattBlue said: This “gem” in the center of Lahaini sold two years ago for 825k. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1073-Front-St-Lahaina-HI-96761/758684_zpid/ Check out all the combustibles around that house! They didn't do what this house did and the reason why this house survived: Who's fault is it why the other houses burned? Some will view this being the hand of Providence... It's the proper hand of humans. Serendipity at best, maybe the structural elements weren't added for fire protection, but they served as fire protection features. Can they learn from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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