MJS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: 4th in the NFL in sacks, only DT in the top 10. Also top 10 in TFLs. 3rd in QB hits. 1 missed tackle on the year. He makes the entire unit go. I would put him in the teens, probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 50 minutes ago, DapperCam said: If there were a league-wide re-draft, Mahomes would go #1 and Allen would go #2. Maybe some GM would take Burrow #2, but I think most would take Allen. I think Allen isn’t necessarily well-liked by players across the league. He plays nasty, trash talks, flops, and I also think some players may not have forgiven him for his tweets that came out around draft time. This is voted for by the players after all. I don’t think this is in any players head at all. The other stuff I can agree with, but this is a complete non-factor in players heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, uninja said: Nah man, Chris Jones is an absolute game wrecker when he wants to be. Guy has gotten a bit lazy in the regular season but he shows up in the playoffs or in late game situations when the game is on the line. He's like Von or AD, when you really need that play he's usually there for you. I'd LOVE to have Chris Jones on the Bills. A front 4 with Jones, Miller and Floyd would be a damn cheat code. Certainly, but that doesn't make him a top 10 player in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I don't get the Jalen Hurts ranking. Is it just because he plays in one of the bigger markets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 2 hours ago, MJS said: I don't think Chris Jones deserves to be that high, personally. The Chiefs don't win either of their Super Bowls without Chris Jones. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The Chiefs don't win either of their Super Bowls without Chris Jones. This is correct. How many of their 3 do they even get to? Maybe the first one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Irv said: I don't get the Jalen Hurts ranking. Is it just because he plays in one of the bigger markets? No, it's because he and his team had a dominant season and SB berth. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 To see elite defensive players around the league heap such praise and admiration on JA17 is just freaking awesome. It really does go to show you that all the hate and jealousy thrown his way from rival fan bases and media pundits like Nick Wright is 100% envy. You're lying to yourself if you'd say outside of Mahomes you would want someone else to be your teams QB1. Josh is the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: The Chiefs don't win either of their Super Bowls without Chris Jones. Does that mean he is automatically a top 10 player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Irv said: I don't get the Jalen Hurts ranking. Is it just because he plays in one of the bigger markets? He put up insane stats. Rushing mostly. But his td to INt was bonkers. Made a huge leap. And led a team to the Super Bowl. Allen hasn’t he was throwing deep balls like dimes all year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 7 hours ago, MJS said: Certainly, but that doesn't make him a top 10 player in the league. This is voted by players so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 1 hour ago, balln said: He put up insane stats. Rushing mostly. But his td to INt was bonkers. Made a huge leap. And led a team to the Super Bowl. Allen hasn’t he was throwing deep balls like dimes all year 22 passing touchdowns is not insane (yes he had 13 rushing touchdowns). Josh has put up stats that no other player in the history of the league has put up, and he has done it multiple seasons. He did make a huge leap from year 2 to year 3 (just like another QB we all know) but for people to think he’s the 3rd best player in the league is quite the stretch. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 1 hour ago, balln said: Made a huge leap. And led a team to the Super Bowl. Allen hasn’ 100 difference is in the GM and Coaching. Eagles dominante the Bills in both of those categories. There are 10 different QBs in the league, who would have taken the Eagles as far as Hurts did, Allen would have won it all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 8 hours ago, benderbender said: At around the 5 minute mark of the video Matt Judon : "His offensive line wasn't blocking for him..." This is on film that defenses study. Our line doesn't give him the protection he needs. Should be in Kromer's head on a loop this year. I think Judon meant that Josh ran but it wasn’t a designed AB draw with the line and receivers downfield blocking. Wasn’t a slight on our line, I don’t think. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Ray Stonada said: I think Judon meant that Josh ran but it wasn’t a designed AB draw with the line and receivers downfield blocking. Wasn’t a slight on our line, I don’t think. Yea... he was clearly saying that it wasnt designed and they weren't run blocking for josh 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Chaos said: 100 difference is in the GM and Coaching. Eagles dominant the Bills in both of those categories. There are 10 different QBs in the league, who would have taken the Eagles as far as Hurts did, Allen would have won it all. Don't know about 10 different QB's, but I do agree that Allen with that team hoists the Lombardi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Has anyone bothered auditing how many players each team has in the top 100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 14 hours ago, uninja said: Nah man, Chris Jones is an absolute game wrecker when he wants to be. Guy has gotten a bit lazy in the regular season but he shows up in the playoffs or in late game situations when the game is on the line. He's like Von or AD, when you really need that play he's usually there for you. I'd LOVE to have Chris Jones on the Bills. A front 4 with Jones, Miller and Floyd would be a damn cheat code. It’s literally the exact opposite. He’s easily the 2nd best DT behind Donald during the regular season and just had the best year of his career. His production then consistently regresses big time come January. 2023 AFCCG vs Bengals: 2 sacks, 3 TFL, 5 QB hits his other 14 playoff games COMBINED: 0 sacks, 2 TFL, 5 QB hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Put JA17 on the chiefs of the iggles and he is winning the Super Bowl every year. JA17 on the iggles in that total dog ***** conference would be unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Don't know about 10 different QB's, but I do agree that Allen with that team hoists the Lombardi. That team playing that schedule against that conference. Don't get me wrong I think the Eagles have the best roster in the league, built by the best General Manager in the league, but the Eagles have other advantages that the Bills don't. The NFC sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Don't know about 10 different QB's, but I do agree that Allen with that team hoists the Lombardi. Mahomes Allen Burrows Rodgers Hebert Jackson Lawrence Hurts Stafford Goff Remember, the Eagles only had to win the very weak NFC to get to the Super Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: Mahomes Allen Burrows Rodgers Hebert Jackson Lawrence Hurts Stafford Goff Remember, the Eagles only had to win the very weak NFC to get to the Super Bowl They had the easiest strength of schedule last year also with an opponent win rate of .428 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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