JaCrispy Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: There is just too much to question. They’re also promoting him bc he’s there for Trump to take votes from DeSantis. Vivek (never attacked by Trump) will be Trump’s press secretary in an administration that’s never going to happen. Wish it weren’t the case….but I live I reality. Vivek is either the greatest super villain that democracy has ever known, by being used as a “plant” to subvert MAGA and the Republican primary, or he is the best and brightest hope for the future of the party… Either way, both things cannot be true… Edited August 26, 2023 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 TRUTH: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I can appreciate Vivek in this race if Trump was out of the picture and he wasn’t simply a shadow candidate for Trump’s campaign. He certainly flips positions like most politicians do, and he’s definitely a flame throwing version of Obama, but he also has some unique ideas .. and his opposition to the war in Ukraine is needed on that debate stage. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 hours ago, SCBills said: I can appreciate Vivek in this race if Trump was out of the picture and he wasn’t simply a shadow candidate for Trump’s campaign. He certainly flips positions like most politicians do, and he’s definitely a flame throwing version of Obama, but he also has some unique ideas .. and his opposition to the war in Ukraine is needed on that debate stage. Nah….he is just an punk with no actual ideas….just crap that people like Bman think is cool… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, B-Man said: TRUTH: To one of his last points, the original vision of the Founding Fathers was not one where they believed that the common citizen could be trusted with self-governance. They believed that those with the greatest stake in the country were naturally the best ones to lead it, since they had the most to lose if the country was poorly governed. Governance certainly couldn't be left in the hands of the uneducated. Or the landless... or women... or blacks.... One of the most common lines you will hear on the right when defending a Republican-led Senate that represents far less than half of the population is "America is not a democracy; it is a federal republic." The flip-flop of that ideal goes against the grain of the Republican party and appeals directly to populist sentiment on the right. The unawareness of this hypocrisy is hilarious. Edited August 26, 2023 by Capco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Capco said: To one of his last points, the original vision of the Founding Fathers was not one where they believed that the common citizen could be trusted with self-governance. They believed that those with the greatest stake in the country were naturally the best ones to lead it, since they had the most to lose if the country was poorly governed. Governance certainly couldn't be left in the hands of the uneducated. Or the landless... or women... or blacks.... One of the most common lines you will hear on the right when defending a Republican-led Senate that represents far less than half of the population is "America is not a democracy; it is a federal republic." The flip-flop of that ideal goes against the grain of the Republican party and appeals directly to populist sentiment on the right. The unawareness of this hypocrisy is hilarious. Dems make up less than half the population as well. On the order of the percentage of Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2023/08/27/after-racist-jacksonville-shooting--ramaswamy-defends-denying-existence-of-white-supremacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) Why hasn’t anyone asked him about the job DeSantis has done as Governor? Considering he’s done everything at the state level Vivek is talking about it, I think it would make sense to ask that. Edited August 27, 2023 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 8:14 AM, B-Man said: TRUTH: This screams “hey Maga, I’m talking to you” That is the dilemma that the republican party really is under right now they have to countdown to Trump supporters, begging for their vote On 8/26/2023 at 2:58 PM, Doc said: Dems make up less than half the population as well. On the order of the percentage of Republicans. this is true. That’s why the independence are always so important in every election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: This screams “hey Maga, I’m talking to you” That is the dilemma that the republican party really is under right now they have to countdown to Trump supporters, begging for their vote this is true. That’s why the independence are always so important in every election But where is Vivek wrong in this statement? Give me something that I can be persuaded by instead the accusation that Vivek is just trying to throw red meat to MAGA… The question should be, is his statement factual or not? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: But where is Vivek wrong in this statement? Give me something that I can be persuaded by instead the accusation that Vivek is just trying to throw red meat to MAGA… The question should be, is his statement factual or not? Please don't waste your vote... You know what needs to be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, TSOL said: Please don't waste your vote... You know what needs to be done What do you consider a wasted vote? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, JaCrispy said: What do you consider a wasted vote? The lesser of two evils The enemy of my enemy... I think you can get my drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 This is all I need to know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I like some of his ideas but he could be in politic 50 years and he's never going to get the nomination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/25/vivek-ramaswamy-overconfident-simplistic-solutions/ George Will may be 80, but he can still write - he nails it here: a loudmouth fool. Ostentatiously confident, he advertised his intention to skip normal preparation for the first Republican debate. Then The Post informed him about a photo of him in a suit, standing at a lectern, flanked by two others, also at lecterns, which looked like normal prep. He said he “reluctantly” tried prep; his campaign spokeswoman said he “experimented with” prep. The problem of unsustainable Social Security and Medicare trajectories? Simple, says Ramaswamy: Just achieve sustained 5 percent economic growth, and the problem will disappear. (Average annual economic growth from 1947 to 2022 was 3.1 percent, according to Cato Institute fiscal analyst Norbert Michel; only once was it more than 5 percent for three consecutive years.) The problem of China’s threat to Taiwan? Not a problem, Ramaswamy says, if we dare to embrace ruthlessness: “Xi Jinping should not mess with Taiwan” — until 2029. Ramaswamy says that at the end of his first term, the United States would have “semiconductor independence” and no further use for Taiwan. Announcing a date when Xi can launch a risk-free invasion of Taiwan is one way to reduce uncertainties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: But where is Vivek wrong in this statement? Give me something that I can be persuaded by instead the accusation that Vivek is just trying to throw red meat to MAGA… The question should be, is his statement factual or not? There is absolutely not a two-tiered justice system whenever it comes to Donald Trump. He is being given more lenient in these proceedings then he should. And acting like a president should be above the law when accused of crimes this isn’t an impeachment these are actual criminal proceedings Maybe Trump just shouldn’t have done that ***** that he did? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/08/27/vivek-ramaswamy-white-supremacy-kkk-ayanna-pressley-iowa-sotu-vpx.cnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/08/27/vivek-ramaswamy-white-supremacy-kkk-ayanna-pressley-iowa-sotu-vpx.cnn Great example why No one trust CNN anymore. Media creating a narrative. Outside these stories of nazis on hiking trails. they are about as rare as a unicorn. Edited August 28, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Good thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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