SoMAn Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Looking for answers from any past subscribers to NFL + Premium. if I understand their offer correctly, all out of market games are replayed and accessible to subscribers on the NFL app (in my case, Roku TV) 2hrs 10 min following completion of games. This is the part I need feedback/confirmation from past subscribers This may be my option for the few Bills games not available on local TV, Amazon, Peacock. paying Youtube NFLST $350 now with an annual $450 automatic renewal fee is not too appealing Edited May 26, 2023 by SoMAn 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, SoMAn said: Looking for answers from any past subscribers to NFL + Premium. if I understand their offer correctly, all out of market games are replayed and accessible to subscribers on the NFL app (in my case, Roku TV) 2hrs 10 min following completion of games. This may be my option for the few Bills games not available on local TV, Amazon, Peacock. paying Youtubetv $350 now with an annual $450 automatic renewal fee is not too appealing I’m also looking for alternative options. No interest in signing up for YouTube TV. I really watch absolutely nothing except football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Following.....how many of the upcoming season Bill's games will only be available on YouTube vs. other games that will be on primetime (other networks)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, SoMAn said: Looking for answers from any past subscribers to NFL + Premium. if I understand their offer correctly, all out of market games are replayed and accessible to subscribers on the NFL app (in my case, Roku TV) 2hrs 10 min following completion of games. This may be my option for the few Bills games not available on local TV, Amazon, Peacock. paying Youtubetv $350 now with an annual $450 automatic renewal fee is not too appealing Live can only be watched on phone or tablet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said: Following.....how many of the upcoming season Bill's games will only be available on YouTube vs. other games that will be on primetime (other networks)? Right. If I’m paying $350 for what may only be 4 games exclusive to YouTube in my area (Atlanta) not very good bang for the buck. I can go to a local Bills Backers bar, stream from someone, or delay viewing with NFL+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: I’m also looking for alternative options. No interest in signing up for YouTube TV. I really watch absolutely nothing except football. You can just pay for Sunday Ticket on YouTube without signing up for TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Live can only be watched on phone or tablet. We’ll, I believe that’s only for ‘in-market’ games anyway. Don’t care about that. I can watch those on my TV. My concern is ‘out of market’ Bills games 1 minute ago, FireChans said: You can just pay for Sunday Ticket on YouTube without signing up for TV I know. I don’t want to pay $350 (NFL Sunday Ticket) for four or five games not viewable locally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwoz Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 My quandary is that I'm in the DC metro area and am subjected to either the Washington nameless team and/or the Baltimore Ravens in the local market. I have no interest in either team. Like other posters, I'm not crazy about shelling out $350 for a handful of Bills games. But I don't want to watch teams I don't care about. So it appears I will pay for Sunday Ticket in hopes of seeing non-local market teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I used it last year and will use it again this year. My recollection is that the full games were available very shortly after the game ended - maybe 10-15 minutes afterwards? I thought it was good deal for the price. I just try to put myself in a bubble during those roughly 5 hours (3 hours of live game time and 2 hours while you're watching the replay). I'll go for a long bike ride, play golf or go surf during the games and watch them when I get home. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said: I used it last year and will use it again this year. My recollection is that the full games were available very shortly after the game ended - maybe 10-15 minutes afterwards? I thought it was good deal for the price. I just try to put myself in a bubble during those roughly 5 hours (3 hours of live game time and 2 hours while you're watching the replay). I'll go for a long bike ride, play golf or go surf during the games and watch them when I get home. Thanks. That’s what I was looking for. After the Monday night opener, there’s that 3-game stretch that play at 1pm. I’d guess we’ll get at least 1 of the 3, if not more. For those, I may go to Bills Backers locale, or wait for the replay as you’ve done. After that, most should be on TV. $350 is just too much, especially when they’ll automatically bill me $450 the following year if I forget to cancel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 The only annoyance I found with NFL+ was the inability to cast from a device or multi-stream. But it is a fraction of the cost Sunday Ticket will set you back. However, with the accessibility and inclusion on most platforms/devices of YouTube(TV), Sunday Ticket is looking more of an option. The only thing holding me back is the price… “not too appealing” is an understatement IMO. Total price gouging on a cornered market. 🤮 Keep us updated on your decision 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, BBFL said: The only annoyance I found with NFL+ was the inability to cast from a device or multi-stream. But it is a fraction of the cost Sunday Ticket will set you back. However, with the accessibility and inclusion on most platforms/devices of YouTube(TV), Sunday Ticket is looking more of an option. The only thing holding me back is the price… “not too appealing” is an understatement IMO. Total price gouging on a cornered market. 🤮 Keep us updated on your decision 👍 I’m leaning towards NFL + premium. live preseason for all games all-22 coaches tape condensed replays for all games going back to 2009 full replays for all current season games Seems like a good deal at $79 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 If you are only looking to watch replayed games on your roku, nfl+ is a viable option. https://support.nfl.com/hc/en-us/articles/5400793091612-On-which-devices-can-I-watch-games-with-NFL- I believe Live games are only available to watch on a phone or tablet. I don’t think it matters if they are in or out of market games. Afaik no live games are available to watch on anything but phone or tablet. But you can watch the replays on any supported device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFan1971 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 21 hours ago, SoMAn said: I’m leaning towards NFL + premium. live preseason for all games all-22 coaches tape condensed replays for all games going back to 2009 full replays for all current season games Seems like a good deal at $79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFan1971 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I've been using NFL GamePass now called NFL+ premium for several years now. With NFL+, you can "listen" to the WGR broadcast live. With NFL + premium, you can get all the above listed by SoMAn PLUS you get a condensed game (without commercials and huddles and etc) the game is about 40-45 minutes long. I have a hard time putting myself in a bubble so I'll pony up and try the YouTube Sunday Ticket for the first year and see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 With the NFL+ you get to watch all the games after the fact. I love being able to do that, but I hate their user interface. It's like they put the least amount of money possible into the app and user experience. It really blows. But you get all the games to watch whenever you want. And it's much cheaper than buying a YouTube subscription + add on. So, I'll continue with the NFL+ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: With the NFL+ you get to watch all the games after the fact. I love being able to do that, but I hate their user interface. It's like they put the least amount of money possible into the app and user experience. It really blows. But you get all the games to watch whenever you want. And it's much cheaper than buying a YouTube subscription + add on. So, I'll continue with the NFL+ I just signed up for the Premium version. $9.99 for the entire season apparently. I figured it must be a mistake as it was $74 or something like that last year. Nope. It’s $9.99. on now with game replays all the way back to 2009. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) There are, of course, other free and reliable ways to watch live, at least on your computer or phone, but you are not supposed to talk about the specific options here (or at least that was the case on the old BBMB). Edited May 28, 2023 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, chongli said: There are, of course, other free and reliable ways to watch live, at least on your computer or phone, but you are not supposed to talk about the specific options here (or at least that was the case on the old BBMB). Yes. I’m aware of some of those options. I’m also able to cast from cell to TV. If the Bills were a middling team with only a few national games, I’d probably be forced to purchase Sunday Ticket. But there will be very few games not shown locally in Atlanta. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 15 hours ago, SoMAn said: I just signed up for the Premium version. $9.99 for the entire season apparently. I figured it must be a mistake as it was $74 or something like that last year. Nope. It’s $9.99. on now with game replays all the way back to 2009. Holy cow, Memorial Day sale or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 This thread made me chuckle…and think. Like many on here, living away from WNY, I spent hundreds of dollars every year for nearly twenty years to watch 16 games of mostly meaningless Bills games, including two annual beat downs by the Patriots. I guess I’m willing to pay the same amount to watch half as many games in which I pretty much know we at least have a decent shot of winning! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 16 hours ago, SoMAn said: I just signed up for the Premium version. $9.99 for the entire season apparently. I figured it must be a mistake as it was $74 or something like that last year. Nope. It’s $9.99. on now with game replays all the way back to 2009. Turns out it's $9.99 for the rest of the offseason. It's gonna charge you the $79 in August unless you cancel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I just renewed my subscription. The initial sign-up page has a heading reading: "Get a Limited Time Offer for the Rest of this Offseason." It also has fine print at the bottom of the page that says: "Limited time offer pricing is for the rest of this offseason only" This could mean that you are paying for a subscription for offseason content only, and that appears to be the case. After signing up for the $9.99 subscription, I looked at the "manage my subscription" feature, and it says my annual $79.99 subscription "Renews automatically on 8/1/2023" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Holy cow, Memorial Day sale or something? I guess. Maybe trying to poach some of the YouTube business, though it seems unlikely since the NFL gets paid through both sources. At sign up it stated that it’ll automatically be renewed at $9.99 May 27, 2024. That’s a bargain for every preseason game live, all-22 coaches video, condensed 40 min versions, and replays of all games immediately after completion of live action, and archived all regular season and playoff games from the past 14 seasons. $9.99 for a year. Couldn’t go to the movies for that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) I like NFL+. Mostly. I get it for free as a season ticket holder, but would purchase regardless. Great repository for old games. I don’t bother DVR’ing home games any longer. By the time I get home from the game, I am able to pull it up on NFL+. Can watch the game whenever I want on all my devices. My issue with it? Can’t cast it well. Tried via an old Apple TV today to watch the 2020 Bills Niners game. Super choppy. Tried to watch via Firestick. Same issue. Best was my Roku enabled TV on the NFL+ app. I believe the newer Apple TV’s have the NFL app. Incidentally, shifted to watching Bills Phins 1990. Edited May 28, 2023 by davefan66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) On 5/26/2023 at 7:23 PM, SoMAn said: Thanks. That’s what I was looking for. After the Monday night opener, there’s that 3-game stretch that play at 1pm. I’d guess we’ll get at least 1 of the 3, if not more. For those, I may go to Bills Backers locale, or wait for the replay as you’ve done. After that, most should be on TV. $350 is just too much, especially when they’ll automatically bill me $450 the following year if I forget to cancel. I have been using NFL+ for as long as it has been available. It is great. Though I normally go to a bar to watch the Bills games live (I live in Texas, so they are not on local tv often), there are normally some games that I can't watch live, because of work. I just avoid the scores to the best of my abilities (I have only ever been "spoiled" once in recent years, but I still watched!) and watch the Bills game as soon as I can. In the early days, you couldn't access it until about 11pm in the evening, but now, it is within an hour or so. I will tell you, if you watch the earlier played games the minute it becomes available, it will include commercial breaks (most actual ads blacked out, so you are just seeing a stationary "commercial break" image). If you watch later in the evening, the commercials are pretty much completely edited out...so your stream goes from 3:20 minutes, to about 2:12 minutes...so if you are not in a huge rush, that is appealing. I say all this, keeping in mind that I am not sure how/if the new YouTube Sunday Ticket exclusive will affect NFL Plus. I am hoping there is no change. Even when I see the games live, I normally like to rewatch them in small chunks over the following week....and if I have time the coaches film is kinda interesting for certain things! Edited May 28, 2023 by Buftex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, Buftex said: I have been using NFL+ for as long as it has been available. It is great. Though I normally go to a bar to watch the Bills games live (I live in Texas, so they are not on local tv often), there are normally some games that I can't watch live, because of work. I just avoid the scores to the best of my abilities (I have only ever been "spoiled" once in recent years, but I still watched!) and watch the Bills game as soon as I can. In the early days, you couldn't access it until about 11pm in the evening, but now, it is within an hour or so. I will tell you, if you watch the earlier played games the minute it becomes available, it will include commercial breaks (most actual ads blacked out, so you are just seeing a stationary "commercial break" image). If you watch later in the evening, the commercials are pretty much completely edited out...so your stream goes from 3:20 minutes, to about 2:12 minutes...so if you are not in a huge rush, that is appealing. I say all this, keeping in mind that I am not sure how/if the new YouTube Sunday Ticket exclusive will affect NFL Plus. I am hoping there is no change. Even when I see the games live, I normally like to rewatch them in small chunks over the following week....and if I have time the coaches film is kinda interesting for certain things! Thanks. You answer my next question, which about commercials. Is it possible to fast-forward through the breaks? Guessing the answer in ‘no’. I went ahead and subscribed to NFL+ Premium for the ridiculously low price of $9.99 for an entire year. If YouTube had offered promo price of around $199 I’d have gone for it. The thing that’s changed dramatically since the onset of NFL Sunday Ticket 1995 (?) or so, is that with at least 3 primetime night games, thanksgiving, Black Friday, and games split between Saturday and Sunday later in the season, morning international games, and usually 3 games in afternoon in most markets, there aren’t nearly as many games that can’t be seen without the Sunday Ticket. Not to mention Redzone, which works fine for gamblers and others. The cost of NFLST should have been reduced with so much less product available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 3:14 PM, SoMAn said: We’ll, I believe that’s only for ‘in-market’ games anyway. Don’t care about that. I can watch those on my TV. My concern is ‘out of market’ Bills games I know. I don’t want to pay $350 (NFL Sunday Ticket) for four or five games not viewable locally They are truly messing up the game with all this streaming crap!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 It was &10 for the year so I am giving it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said: It was &10 for the year so I am giving it a shot. *Limited time offer pricing is for the rest of this offseason only. Deceptive advertising if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: *Limited time offer pricing is for the rest of this offseason only. Deceptive advertising if you ask me. Yes. Very deceptive. I went in and signed up, as $10 would be an amazing deal. But when I checked my account status, it shows that it auto-renews at the regular $79.99 price on August 1st. So I just wasted $10, as there is no need for the subscription before August 1st for me. I was going to buy it anyway at the regular price, as I do every year. But that was some skeevy marketing. Edited May 29, 2023 by Last Guy on the Bench 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: *Limited time offer pricing is for the rest of this offseason only. Deceptive advertising if you ask me. OH!! That’s not at all the way it was presented. I’m really tired of all marketing efforts designed to deceive. The offer was $9.99/season, with the statement that it would automatically renew in 1 year. Sure made it sound like a full year subscription. So, now, instead of just getting the whole thing for a year, I’ll have to pay the $80 on top of the $10 I’ve already spent. Thanks for the clarification. If I didn’t love our Bills so much, I give a big middle finger to the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: *Limited time offer pricing is for the rest of this offseason only. Deceptive advertising if you ask me. I was looking for the catch. Gonna try to get my money back. 2 minutes ago, SoMAn said: OH!! That’s not at all the way it was presented. I’m really tired of all marketing efforts designed to deceive. The offer was $9.99/season, with the statement that it would automatically renew in 1 year. Sure made it sound like a full year subscription. So, now, instead of just getting the whole thing for a year, I’ll have to pay the $80 on top of the $10 I’ve already spent. Thanks for the clarification. If I didn’t love our Bills so much, I give a big middle finger to the NFL. I am surprised the nfl purposely deceived like this. Maybe I should. It be but I am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 My response to a feedback prompt: Quote My vision is too poor to watch on cell or tablet so basically you are discriminating against handicapped. I'll send a message to my congressman / senator. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Well, you guys have convinced me. For the first time in decades I will not be getting Sunday Ticket. From my analysis of the schedule, there are only 4 games I would need through Sunday Ticket. Can't justify it, so for those few games I will try something new with this NFL+ Premium. I've had it in the past for All-22 and it was glitchy. They didn't even have it for weeks on end. But I just need it for the tape delayed games. The rest is gravy. I'm probably one of the few that likes the late afternoon games anyway, so I'll avoid the early games for those few weeks and sounds like I can jump in right after they're over. Question: I could never figure out if you get NFL Network through Premium? My carrier doesn't have it, so that would seal it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 1:57 PM, SoMAn said: Looking for answers from any past subscribers to NFL + Premium. if I understand their offer correctly, all out of market games are replayed and accessible to subscribers on the NFL app (in my case, Roku TV) 2hrs 10 min following completion of games. This is the part I need feedback/confirmation from past subscribers This may be my option for the few Bills games not available on local TV, Amazon, Peacock. paying Youtube NFLST $350 now with an annual $450 automatic renewal fee is not too appealing I use NFL+ for the same reason and games are available on replay almost immediately after the live game finishes. The All-22 and the without commercials versions (watch the whole game in like 30 minutes, which is cool) take a longer to post to the site. Works for me, esp. since Bills on are national TV most of the time anyway. and you can watch other games in 30 minutes, basically take in the whole league at your leisure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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