Milanos Milano Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, Beast said: What a freaking dumb thing to say. How is it? They preach family and unity and throw their own draft pick (thus family) under the bus because of the guilty until proven innocent mob. They then don’t even issue a statement with the new updates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: There is a sex tape from these events? The only video I'm aware of is when she was "interviewed" for lack of a better term on the porch of the house party where she seems sober enough and claims to be 18. Obviously, people who were sober earlier in the evening could be too drunk to give consent later in the evening through continual consumption of alcohol and controlled substances. Yes - did you read the story? There are multiple short videos of sex acts with this accuser. None of which involved Araiza. Edit: And none of which support her claims of violence or forcible sexual assault, according to the prosecutors. Seriously read the thing man. It’s not that long. Edited May 9, 2023 by JoPoy88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I agree. Then, on the other hand, I find it difficult to be ok with potentially ruining an innocent man’s life because he was falsely accused. This kid busted his butt the majority of his life to become one of the less than .1% to make himself a home among the elite in the NFL. Only to be banished (hopefully only for that one year) based on a false accusation. I’m at fault too. I called him Rape God on this forum. I’m ashamed of that moment of weakness and I hope that I’ve learned my lesson. It’s the system. Can’t blame humans for being human. There’s things the general public doesn’t need to know. One of those things is when someone is accused of a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 16 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Unfortunately it won't be enough for some people. When it comes to sexual assault charges, the accused is forever guilty and any evidence to the contrary is dismissed as a lie or conspiracy. While not the same circumstance, Amber Heard still has throngs of diehard believers despite mountains of evidence showing her to be an objectively terrible person. Nobody defends amber heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: There is a sex tape from these events? The only video I'm aware of is when she was "interviewed" for lack of a better term on the porch of the house party where she seems sober enough and claims to be 18. Obviously, people who were sober earlier in the evening could be too drunk to give consent later in the evening through continual consumption of alcohol and controlled substances. Read the article. Seriously. Do some research before you make a comment. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Yes - did you read the story? There are multiple short videos of sex acts with this accuser. None of which involved Araiza. Clearly not well enough. I did not think any new information was available but it doesnt get more concrete than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It’s the system. Can’t blame humans for being human. There’s things the general public doesn’t need to know. One of those things is when someone is accused of a crime. I agree, it should be illegal to release any names until a court case is underway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, phypon said: Anyone sticking up for this woman and STILL trying to blame MA for the events that happened after being presented facts have a serious, serious problem. Hopefully he gets the support from the media he deserves. As certain as I was that he would be released I am certain he’ll get a job in the NFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Hopefully he gets the support from the media he deserves. As certain as I was that he would be released I am certain he’ll get a job in the NFL. His job should be with the Buffalo Bills. Make this right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Why? Because it is stunning what people held in high esteem (for some reason) get away with and it's handy to have a stash of examples when I am arguing with my clueless friends Edited May 9, 2023 by arcane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Clearly not well enough. I did not think any new information was available but it doesnt get more concrete than that. Then re-read it. It was pretty clear. The prosecutors basically told her to her face that none of her claims were supported by any of the gathered evidence. She made up a story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: His job should be with the Buffalo Bills. Make this right. I would like to see the Bills show support with a press release but I don’t know if they sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Didn't Rich Eisen do a pretty scathing hit piece on MA? I'm pretty sure it was him. I doubt he will apologize for jumping to conclusions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I would like to see the Bills show support with a press release but I don’t know if they sign him. That’s not good enough. They fired him on false allegations. Do the right thing and sign him if Araiza wants it. We don’t need some backup DT that will be barely used. Edited May 9, 2023 by IronMaidenBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: Then re-read it. It was pretty clear. The prosecutors basically told her to her face that none of her claims were supported by any of the gathered evidence. She made up a story. Thanks, I read it fully this time. By concrete I meant the evidence shared fully exonerates Araiza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 I posted the one link to a Bills influencer issuing an apology. Still at one. Ahhh, the day is young .. surely they’ll all get around to it…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: How is it? They preach family and unity and throw their own draft pick (thus family) under the bus because of the guilty until proven innocent mob. They then don’t even issue a statement with the new updates. and they would have gotten heavily criticized had they not released him.... at the time it was 100% the correct thing to do. 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: That’s not good enough. They fired him on false allegations. Do the right thing and sign him if Araiza wants it. how do you know they haven't tried? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, gordong said: and they would have gotten heavily criticized had they not released him.... at the time it was 100% the correct thing to do. If this organization had any brass, they would have issued a statement that said we will not negotiate with guilty until proven innocent mob. We are family and will support each other until a crime is proven. They need to fix this by re-signing Araiza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 She should be charged for false reporting clearly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: For anyone thinking we should sign him look at what happened to Mante Teo. That guy was a stud player before and after his head got screwed with he was never the same. That is a fair point, however, Teo dealt with a lot of injuries to be fair though which certainly played a role in his career too. In terms of Araiza, Bills have a punter, there is no reason to sign this kid given we just extended our Punter who was very good for us. I don't say that coldly, because if we still were unsettled at Punter, I would advocate to give Araiza another shot here. But Sam came in and played very well for us, not fair for him to lose his job or have his job in jeopardy either after earning his roster spot here. 1 minute ago, NUT said: So many on these forums were so wrong, joined in the social media mob to wreck a kid. Hopefully that makes you think about how wrong you are pertaining to other activist mob-like activities you engage in on social media. One would hope that people would learn from things like this, but the reality is that most won't as its sadly engrained in our society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Bring back Punt God! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: That’s not good enough. They fired him on false allegations. Do the right thing and sign him if Araiza wants it. We don’t need some backup DT that will be barely used. No, they didn’t. Because nobody knew whether the allegations were false or not at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, K-9 said: No, they didn’t. Because nobody knew whether the allegations were false or not at the time. You don’t abandon family on allegations. We quit on someone who needed it most. I hope the rest of the players take notice. Edited May 9, 2023 by IronMaidenBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 16 hours ago, UKBillFan said: Interestingly, the “victim’s” lawyer who decided to act as judge, jury and executioner on Twitter has gone very quiet…. https://twitter.com/dangilleon Carnies Clowns Lawyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: If this organization had any brass, they would have issued a statement that said we will not negotiate with guilty until proven innocent mob. We are family and will support each other until a crime is proven. They need to fix this by re-signing Araiza. ok so you just want to attack the bills.. got it... sorry but it was 100% right to release him at the time.. and I see you totally ignored the part asking how do you know they haven't reached out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Simon said: I was just conning you into showing up. I'm still going to kick your ass. Bahahahaha, this one made me laugh out loud literally, well played Im glad it wasn't you then 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Doc said: It was in the article I linked a few weeks back. From an objective source or his attorney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, phypon said: Read the article. Seriously. Do some research before you make a comment. Posters on here can’t even read / comprehend a one paragraph post before replying and you expect them to read an article? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: If this organization had any brass, they would have issued a statement that said we will not negotiate with guilty until proven innocent mob. We are family and will support each other until a crime is proven. They need to fix this by re-signing Araiza. Family sometimes has to make difficult decisions which are better for everyone in the long term. Shirley you must be aware of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Our legal system grinds out it's outcomes much too slowly to fit the timeline of a team on a Super Bowl mission. Her scumbag lawyer actually did the Bills a favor by forcing this all to come out in August rather than at some point later in the season. How much more of a circus would that have been? It certainly did his client no favor. Araiza hadn't even made much money on his contract yet. When the video of her taken at the Halloween party from the night before came out, that was pretty much the end of any criminal charges, imo. Her lawyer's intension to pursue the civil case will fail too. The Bills had no choice but to cut him but I got the feeling that they felt that Matt was not totally truthful with them after Dan Gilleon sent them the civil suit and the details that were therein. Good thing for those accused that everyone has a camera with them now and that they are willing to record everything they do and observe. In this case, this would amount to child pornography as she was under 18 at the time and prosecutors are even reluctant to share it with the defense. As for the accuser, it is easy to sell victimhood to most anyone. It's what many lawyers do. She said she couldn't remember many important details that their subsequent "investigations" later revealed. She should drop the suit, apologize and blame the lawyer for the over reach. Most of we the public would accept that, I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: If this organization had any brass, they would have issued a statement that said we will not negotiate with guilty until proven innocent mob. We are family and will support each other until a crime is proven. They need to fix this by re-signing Araiza. I doubt the Bills, or any other team, will reach out yet as the lawyer seems determined to take him through civil court (unless this has been dropped too, but I don't think it has?) Be found guilty there and no team will want him on their books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Family sometimes has to make difficult decisions which are better for everyone in the long term. Shirley you must be aware of this. Not a family I want to be apart of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: You don’t abandon family on allegations. We quit on someone who needed it most. I hope the rest of the players take notice. You’ve convinced me. We should have paraded the 22 year old kid in front of a hostile national media week after week after week to show our support. It would have made his life far worse, but we may have netted 2 extra yards per punt. 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Not a family I want to be apart of. Did your mommy buy you Lucky Charms every time you pouted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, 4merper4mer said: You’ve convinced me. We should have paraded the 22 year old kid in front of a hostile national media week after week after week to show our support. It would have made his life far worse, but we may have netted 2 extra yards per punt. Who are we to decide on what makes someone’s life worse. That decision should have been Araiza’s choice and his alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: You don’t abandon family on allegations. We quit on someone who needed it most. I hope the rest of the players take notice. Your crusade is getting old. Good luck tilting at those windmills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Not a family I want to be apart of. Araiza and the Bills are not and never were “family.” They were his employer for a short period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, JoPoy88 said: Araiza and the Bills are not and never were “family.” They were his employer for a short period of time. This whole franchises mantra is we are family. Just stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: This whole franchises mantra is we are family. Just stop. That’s you believing their PR. That’s a you problem. The Bills are a business. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: This whole franchises mantra is we are family. Just stop. Do you love WalMart like a sister because they give you a ham for Christmas? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, JoPoy88 said: That’s you believing their PR. That’s a you problem. The Bills are a business. He told you to “just stop”. Why didn’t you obey? 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: Do you love WalMart like a sister because they give you a ham for Christmas? Plus they have Lucky Charms at discounted prices! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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