GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: Do you ever see the bills transitioning to a 3-4 with these players? No. Nor should they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Lol. This is a horrible hire. What a mess Denver is. Zero draft capital, a bum qb, and washed up regime running the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 hours ago, H2o said: I guess Payton didn't learn anything from having that crap defense run by the other brother in NO. I don't love Rex Ryan or even like him but he's literally 10x the coach his brother is. He was an excellent coordinator and you can't take that away from him. PLENTY of people are better coordinators than HC's. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I don't love Rex Ryan or even like him but he's literally 10x the coach his brother is. He was an excellent coordinator and you can't take that away from him. PLENTY of people are better coordinators than HC's. His hands were all over ruining the #4 overall defense in the NFL, which we had prior to his arrival in 2015. Our defenses were putrid under Rex and that was supposed to be his forte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I don't love Rex Ryan or even like him but he's literally 10x the coach his brother is. He was an excellent coordinator and you can't take that away from him. PLENTY of people are better coordinators than HC's. He was. But he hasn't been a coordinator since 2008 and his sole coordinating experience in the NFL came with a defense containing three current or future HoFers in Ed Reed, Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs. However you want to badge his input on the defenses in New York and Buffalo in his final years as a Head Coach they made the top 10 only once in his last four seasons. I think the league passed him by somewhat. Having said that... the mid 10s were definitely the era of 4-3 and cover 3... there has been a bit of a pivot back towards the 3-4 but even that is with more Fangio style schemes that are about confusion and coverage rather than the Rex Ryan blitz the hell out of you and leave our corners on an island approach. Edited February 16, 2023 by GunnerBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 You can like Ryan (I don’t) or not but wow it looks like Denver is completely out of ideas. They’ve quickly turned into a hot mess. If the choice is indeed Rex, I can’t see this working out. Seems to me they need changes far above the DC level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: No. Nor should they. It's really hard for players to switch from 4-3 to 3-4. But with Miller, 4-3. Otherwise, in theory, I'd have preferred Klein in there with Edmunds and Milano than the banged up DLine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 "We're sorry, Rex, but we can't redo the tattoo of your wife to the Bronco colours and Wilson's number. You're a walking toxic waste dump." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 This is great news for other AFC teams…like the Jets hiring Adam Gase after he flamed out in Miami. Another team we can cross off the list of potential rivals… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He was. But he hasn't been a coordinator since 2008 and his sole coordinating experience in the NFL came with a defense containing three current or future HoFers in Ed Reed, Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs. However you want to badge his input on the defenses in New York and Buffalo in his final years as a Head Coach they made the top 10 only once in his last four seasons. I think the league passed him by somewhat. Having said that... the mid 10s were definitely the era of 4-3 and cover 3... there has been a bit of a pivot back towards the 3-4 but even that is with more Fangio style schemes that are about confusion and coverage rather than the Rex Ryan blitz the hell out of you and leave our corners on an island approach. Yeah I don't disagree. I was more or less just defending him as an infinitely better coach than his brother. Maybe...Rex's scheme of heavy man and blitz will be BETTER? in todays game. It's absolutely a risk for them to take since he hasn't been coaching in 7 years and the game has changed a lot. 1 hour ago, H2o said: His hands were all over ruining the #4 overall defense in the NFL, which we had prior to his arrival in 2015. Our defenses were putrid under Rex and that was supposed to be his forte. Again, don't disagree. Like I said, being an HC and balancing that with being a coordinator is not easy and MOST fail. He wasn't an exception, unfortunately. If you fast forward to today. We have a top 5 defense but.... what does that even mean? That defense FELT like a bottom 10 defense this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Honest question here. What killed the blitz happy 34/46 hybrid style defense that Rex used to run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 It was funning reading on r/nfl that "Rex will adapt his scheme to the new NFL" I spit out my water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Leslie Frazier haters, remember that Rex Ryan is the antiuniverse Frazier: - fat white guy; skinny black guy - loudmouth know it all; calm, quiet tactician - all blitzes and stunts, forcing the action and gunning for the big play; all bend but don’t break, let ‘em kill their own drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Leslie Frazier haters, remember that Rex Ryan is the antiuniverse Frazier: - fat white guy; skinny black guy - loudmouth know it all; calm, quiet tactician - all blitzes and stunts, forcing the action and gunning for the big play; all bend but don’t break, let ‘em kill their own drive. So what you're saying is we need to find middle sized bi-racial guy, who knows when to speak, knows when to listen, and is adaptable to incorporate all styles of defense depending on the opponent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 13 hours ago, wppete said: Love this! Getting exciting! A DC with a pulse. The opposite of Frazier. Hope he gets the job, will be watching the show in Denver next year for sure. What in the actual *****? Rex's "pulse" is a disaster. There's no excuse for this ignorant of a comment from a Bills fan, unless you were born in 2017 1 hour ago, warrior9 said: Yeah I don't disagree. I was more or less just defending him as an infinitely better coach than his brother. Maybe...Rex's scheme of heavy man and blitz will be BETTER? in todays game. It's absolutely a risk for them to take since he hasn't been coaching in 7 years and the game has changed a lot. Again, don't disagree. Like I said, being an HC and balancing that with being a coordinator is not easy and MOST fail. He wasn't an exception, unfortunately. If you fast forward to today. We have a top 5 defense but.... what does that even mean? That defense FELT like a bottom 10 defense this year. Talk about asinine comments. It doesn't matter how you felt. We were top 2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, FireChans said: What in the actual *****? Rex's "pulse" is a disaster. There's no excuse for this ignorant of a comment from a Bills fan, unless you were born in 2017 Talk about asinine comments. It doesn't matter how you felt. We were top 2. Ohh complete nonsense. I’ll take Rex over Frazier all day. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Now it sounds like it's not happening with Vance Joseph interviewing... That's a bummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Will be watching Denver's talented young defense turned into a confused mess. Rex on his interest in the Denver DC job: "I just can't wait to see Chubb dropping back into coverage!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Now it sounds like it's not happening with Vance Joseph interviewing... That's a bummer The notion of him being “a top candidate” for a DC job seemed like nothing more than some PR Rex or his agent had put out there. I’d be floored if any team seriously considered him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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