JerseyBills Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Rd 1. Stefon Diggs - A+ no explanation needed. Elite #1 WR who now has 2 all pros as a Bill Rd 2. AJ Epenesa- C- . maybe less. For the 54th pick in the draft he has proven to be a JAG and has limited impact on a consistent basis RD 3. Zack Moss - F. not on the team anymore and was unimpressive since day 1 Rd 4. Gabe Davis - B- . For a day 3 pick he has contributed nicely. He def isn't the answer as an every down WR but is still a legit threat and nice piece to have. Good value Rd 5. Jake Fromm - F. Complete waste of a pick. Total bust Rd 6. Tyler Bass - A . One of the best kickers in the game. Great pick Rd 6. Isaiah Hodgins - D- . At least for us he was as he was never given the chance to touch the field. Kinda like the Wyatt Teller pick. Kid has been balling for another team. Rd 7. Dane Jackson- A . For a 7th rder he has been exceptional in the #2 CB role and even #1 role for part of this year. Great value. Great pick. Overall a solid draft. Probably a B overall , 6 of 8 picks were offensive in this draft counting Bass. We got 4 starters out of it, including Gabe, which likely changes. But nonetheless very solid. But the AJ and Moss picks were huge misses on day 2 and stick out the most. If we hit on 1 or both of them this would've been a great draft class How would yall rank this draft? Edited January 29, 2023 by JerseyBills 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I think it's a little harsh to give the Moss pick an F He did play for the team for 2.5 years The rest of it is pretty spot on, and overall it's a B, given that the 2nd & 3rd round picks won't be getting second contracts 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Would certainly be better if we kept Hodgins. I really had higher hopes for Epenesa - I thought he showed some flashes early in the season, but then kind of disappeared again. Good write-up. Agree w/ most of the assessments. Not a bad draft, certainly - but not great. We need hit on more picks going forward. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 C- ? We found AJ's burner. 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Rd 1. Stefon Diggs - A+ no explanation needed. Elite #1 WR who now has 2 all pros as a Bill Rd 2. AJ Epenesa- C- . maybe less. For the 54th pick in the draft he has proven to be a JAG and has limited impact on a consistent basis RD 3. Zack Moss - F. not on the team anymore and was unimpressive since day 1 Rd 4. Gabe Davis - B- . For a day 3 pick he has contributed nicely. He def isn't the answer as an every down WR but is still a legit threat and nice piece to have. Good value Rd 5. Jake Fromm - F. Complete waste of a pick. Total bust Rd 6. Tyler Bass - A . One of the best kickers in the game. Great pick Rd 6. Isaiah Hodgins - D- . At least for us he was as he was never given the chance to touch the field. Kinda like the Wyatt Teller pick. Kid has been balling for another team. Rd 7. Dane Jackson- A . For a 7th rder he has been exceptional in the #2 CB role and even #1 role for part of this year. Great value. Great pick. Overall a solid draft. Probably a B overall , 6 of 8 picks were offensive in this draft counting Bass. We got 4 starters out of it, including Gabe, which likely changes. But nonetheless very solid. But the AJ and Moss picks were huge misses on day 2 and stick out the most. If we hit on 1 or both of them this would've been a great draft class How would yall rank this draft? About the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Process said: C- ? We found AJ's burner. Lol. Ya you can certainly go lower. I mean he at least contributes somewhat and isn't inactive but very disappointing value pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: I think it's a little harsh to give the Moss pick an F He did play for the team for 2.5 years The rest of it is pretty spot on, and overall it's a B, given that the 2nd & 3rd round picks won't be getting second contracts It really is bizarre how Moss sort of fell off. If you look at the early part of last season, he was our best back. He was huge in the regular season win over the chiefs, including catching balls out of the backfield. No idea what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I'm less impressed by the Diggs trade than you. Yes, he has performed marvelously. But the Vikes took Jefferson with the pick we gave them. Now they have a younger, cheaper, arguably better player, as well as that fourth round pick we also gave up. You want an eventual starter with your second- and third-round pick. Neither Epenesa nor Moss are/were close. Davis and Hodgins were both very good (not great) picks. Dane and Bass were both great picks. Beane has built a solid team but hasn't provided enough elite players. Allen, Diggs, Miller, Milano, Hyde. That's it. With the holes the roster has, this isn't enough. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Yes a good draft, Diggs who was a great acquisition was result of a trade of multiple draft picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Fair, but I wouldn't give Beane credit for simply identifying a known proven talent at his position. We were fortunate that Diggs was persona-non-grata in Minnesota. Minny used that pick for Jefferson, quite arguably better than Diggs. Also, we threw in a few other day-three picks. Good transaction, just saying that I don't use it to credit Beane for being able to draft well. 10 minutes ago, finn said: I'm less impressed by the Diggs trade than you. Yes, he has performed marvelously. But the Vikes took Jefferson with the pick we gave them. Now they have a younger, cheaper, arguably better player, as well as that fourth round pick we also gave up. You want an eventual starter with your second- and third-round pick. Neither Epenesa nor Moss are/were close. Davis and Hodgins were both very good (not great) picks. Dane and Bass were both great picks. Beane has built a solid team but hasn't provided enough elite players. Allen, Diggs, Miller, Milano, Hyde. That's it. With the holes the roster has, this isn't enough. Milano wasn't drafted under Beane. Also not sure that they brought Hyde on board while Beane was in charge. Did they? He too came in 2017, but as a FA. Edited January 29, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I'd give Moss a D instead of an F,,, The F would go to McBeane on this guy. Hodgins gets a C from me,,, Another failure of McBeane for being blind on this kid. He looks good in Jersey. Dane Jackson I'd give a B instead of an A. He's played good, especially for a 7th round pick. I just think an A is too high of a grade. Epenesa - He lost a ton of weight since he was drafted, maybe they should move him to LB or Safety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Hindsight grading? An exercise in the finger pointing of decisions made in the past. People do like doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Rd 1 happy with the Diggs trade A+ Rd 2 Epenesa. Yuck. F. The pick here should have been Ezra Cleveland, who has turned into an excellent guard. AJ Dillon, Logan Wilson, Van Jefferson, Kristian Fulton or Jeremy Chinn would have been ideal as well. But with our OL need, Cleveland would be nice to have right now. I think they wanted Kyle Dugger and thought he would drop to them and got all screwed up when the Pats grabbed him early. Rd 3 Moss. F. Just yuck. I hate this pick, now and hated it then. The thing is that there isn’t a whole ton of talent that got picked right after him. Maybe Cam Dantzler, Devin Duvernay. Jonathan Greenard is better than AJ Epenesa and went right after. Rd 4 Davis - B. I am not a Davis guy, too many drops for me, but he outperforms most players picked in the 4th. They just missed on Kevin Dotson who is a very good guard for the Steelers and L’Jarius Sneed who is an important cog in the KC defense. But Davis pick was solid. Rd 5 - Fromm - F - A cheap long term backup for Josh? Sure its a solid idea. But they never committed to him and he was pretty bad. Wasted pick. They missed on Darnell Mooney, who has turned into an impact player on the Bears. Rd 6 Bass - B + Really good pick, but still a kicker. Jon Runyan, Quez Watkins, and Jordan Fuller went right after. An argument can be made for those guys. Rd 6 Giants legend Hodgins - F - again its an F because he did nothing for us. Yes we made a mistake releasing him, and I like him as a player but they had no plan to get him involved and its a failure. Rd 7 - Jackson- A - I am not a fan of his game, but to have made the contributions he has a 7th round pick is awesome and unlikely. UDFA we could have drafted instead of some of these guys: P Tommy Townsend QB Tyler Huntley RB James Robinson WR Marquez Callaway G Calvin Throckmorton WR Nick Westbrook-Ikhine UDFA we signed who is still around: Reggie Gilliam Antonio Williams is still in the NFL and Trey Adams was an interesting pick until he retired. Guys from that draft who are now in our program: WR Isaiah Coulter WR Dezmon Paton Edited January 29, 2023 by MrEpsYtown 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I'd give Moss a D instead of an F,,, The F would go to McBeane on this guy. Hodgins gets a C from me,,, Another failure of McBeane for being blind on this kid. He looks good in Jersey. Dane Jackson I'd give a B instead of an A. He's played good, especially for a 7th round pick. I just think an A is too high of a grade. Epenesa - He lost a ton of weight since he was drafted, maybe they should move him to LB or Safety. I don’t know if anyone deserves to be criticized over Hodgins. They say the best ability is availability and he didn’t meet that requirement his first two seasons and that led us to draft Shakir. If Hodgins was healthy his first 2 seasons the need for Shakir is probably out the window. Edited January 29, 2023 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 There is no three year rule. Several rookies need to play, and have a reasonable impact, every season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: Rd 1. Stefon Diggs - A+ no explanation needed. Elite #1 WR who now has 2 all pros as a Bill Rd 2. AJ Epenesa- C- . maybe less. For the 54th pick in the draft he has proven to be a JAG and has limited impact on a consistent basis RD 3. Zack Moss - F. not on the team anymore and was unimpressive since day 1 Rd 4. Gabe Davis - B- . For a day 3 pick he has contributed nicely. He def isn't the answer as an every down WR but is still a legit threat and nice piece to have. Good value Rd 5. Jake Fromm - F. Complete waste of a pick. Total bust Rd 6. Tyler Bass - A . One of the best kickers in the game. Great pick Rd 6. Isaiah Hodgins - D- . At least for us he was as he was never given the chance to touch the field. Kinda like the Wyatt Teller pick. Kid has been balling for another team. Rd 7. Dane Jackson- A . For a 7th rder he has been exceptional in the #2 CB role and even #1 role for part of this year. Great value. Great pick. Overall a solid draft. Probably a B overall , 6 of 8 picks were offensive in this draft counting Bass. We got 4 starters out of it, including Gabe, which likely changes. But nonetheless very solid. But the AJ and Moss picks were huge misses on day 2 and stick out the most. If we hit on 1 or both of them this would've been a great draft class How would yall rank this draft? you grade the players for the talent…not what they did for us. Giants took him because the knew more about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 AJE is a D Hodgins is an F. We let him hit waivers in favor of keeping guys like Taiwan Jones protected. That’s one of the larger gaffes in recent memory. I can’t give a draft a B where one pick is a traded player and the next 2 in the top 100 are underwhelming are trash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Man. All those Fs for Jake Fromm. That will hurt the feelings of JakeFrommStateFarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I honestly don’t understand the amount of hate AJE gets. As the 3rd DE AJ had 6.5 sacks, 7 run stuffs, 10 QB hits, and 5 PBUs. He isn’t perfect and can be inconsistent, as many young players are, but we really get a good amount of impact play from our #3 DE. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wild Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I honestly don’t understand the amount of hate AJE gets. As the 3rd DE AJ had 6.5 sacks, 7 run stuffs, 10 QB hits, and 5 PBUs. He isn’t perfect and can be inconsistent, as many young players are, but we really get a good amount of impact play from our #3 DE. Honestly its bc he was a top 55 pick 9 sacks in 3 years for a second round pick isnt ideal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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