Thoughts on Bengals Game.

[Scott7975]

9 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

 

Personally I dont think they will play this game at all.  They will use a win% formula or something to decide the seeds.  It wont be fair to some teams but it is what it is.  Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do knowing it wont be fair to someone and move on because there is no perfect outcome in this type of situation.  There are too many logistical and costly nightmares to move all the playoff games and superbowl.  Costly to not just the NFL but also people that pay to attend the games.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

56 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Wish we knew what the play call and the responsibilities were on that second down. Seemed more than just the Bengals blew it up.

3rd down incompletion was a bad pass not a drop. A good pass and Cole scores probably untouched. It was a great route and good play design. Josh has to deliver a catchable ball. He did not. Every ball that touches a hand is not a catchable ball and not always a drop. 

 

I'd call it both a drop and a bad pass - with more blame assigned to Beeze than Allen. Allen threw a catchable ball and Beeze didn't make the above-average difficulty catch. In the modern NFL if a WR gets 2 hands on the ball and doesn't bring it in it's absolutely a drop. That might've been a circus catch 20 years ago, but guys routinely make catches like that around the league now. 

 

As far as the rest of the game had been going.... our DEF was getting shredded, but they have the bad habit of starting slow before righting the ship. I was concerned with how easy it looked for the Bengals O but not overly worried.

 

Pretty disappointed by the wasted timeout on offense. Josh snapped the ball with 4 seconds on the playclock and completed a pass to Davis for an ~8 yard gain. No idea why McD panicked there and blew a TO. 

[DJB]

31 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Did you watch both halfs of the Bengals Pats?  Things change.  That's why they play 60 minutes, not 10.

Of course. I’ve watched NFL for 30 years. 
 

But my point stands that if we analyze the 10 plays or whatever we had on D we were getting shredded. No way to argue differently 

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Well that’s a pretty big deal. Losing 2 of 12 defensive starters (when you’re already down 1, so really 3 defensive starters out) is a huge deal against a top tier defense.

 

Comparing that to a healthy Pats defense with one of the greeters defensive coaches in history is odd to me.

 

We've dealt with injuries all year on defense and we are 2nd in the league in defensive scoring while playing a first place schedule.

We have a much, much better offense than the Pats.  

 

The Pats can come back on the Bengals with one offensive TD but we can't or very unlikely?

 

I think it's been shown that Belicheck is mediocre without Brady.  

[BRH]

If we could rewind to the Hamlin play and have him get up and be okay, but too injured to continue -- and I wish to hell we could -- that would have left us with a backup nickel corner, a backup to the backup to one safety, the other safety playing with a knee injury, the #1 corner still recovering from his own knee injury, and the #2 corner being either a rookie who has struggled to adjust to zone coverage or a guy who has struggled mightily at the point of catch all season long.

 

And we had already blinked on our first drive by running a throwaway play (because Allen couldn't hear the play coming in), then not connecting with Beasley, and then deciding to take three instead of going for the first down in the red zone.

 

You can think what you want about the Bills' offense making enough plays to win.  I know they were up to that challenge.  But unless the defensive line was eventually able to get home and rattle Burrow into sacks or errant throws, it really wasn't looking good at that point.

 

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

We've dealt with injuries all year on defense and we are 2nd in the league in defensive scoring while playing a first place schedule.

We have a much, much better offense than the Pats.  

 

The Pats can come back on the Bengals with one offensive TD but we can't or very unlikely?

 

I think it's been shown that Belicheck is mediocre without Brady.  

 

If that game had been in Cincinnati, I doubt the Pats even come close to a comeback.  We would have had a better chance, for sure.  And we righted the ship in similar conditions in Baltimore already this year.  But we were digging ourselves a pretty bad hole already.  Add to that the PI call on Tre and the momentum swing after we thought we had recovered a fumble that wasn't, and it just didn't look good.  Not saying we couldn't have won -- and I would never support giving Cincy a win because of eight plays -- but everyone has to admit that this was not one of our better starts, even taking into account our propensity to give up a first-drive score and take awhile for the offense to fully click.

Edited January 3, 2023 by BRH

[HOUSE]

Well, it was pretty clear the Bills could in fact run the ball on Cincinnati.  (5 carries, 35 yards ) Chris Simms said this wasn't possible.  Well I told you he was crazy 

Should there be another game, I expect more

Edited January 3, 2023 by HOUSE

[Casey D]

11 minutes ago, DJB said:

Of course. I’ve watched NFL for 30 years. 
 

But my point stands that if we analyze the 10 plays or whatever we had on D we were getting shredded. No way to argue differently 

No one would.  Bengals looked great on  a handful of plays, that's pretty obvious, so no insight there . 

 

Lots of games look that way for a while, things change.  Colts were shredding Vikings two weeks ago in the first half.  How did that turn out?  Your desire to reach an overarching conclusion about the two teams over such a small sample size is silly.  There could have been a pick 6 on the next play and the Bills are up 10-7.  We'll never know.

[BRH]

15 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Pretty disappointed by the wasted timeout on offense. Josh snapped the ball with 4 seconds on the playclock and completed a pass to Davis for an ~8 yard gain. No idea why McD panicked there and blew a TO. 

 

That was bad.  McD saw something he didn't like, but Josh figured out a way around it.  Sometimes you need to trust your players.

 

Worse was not getting a play to Josh in time a bit later in the drive, which forced him to call a throwaway run play that got stuffed.  Josh didn't want to use yet another timeout there.  

 

Makes me think that if we play them again, and it's in Cincinnati, Josh needs to run the two-minute offense from the get-go.

 

 

[teef]

Just now, Casey D said:

No one would.  Bengals looked great on  a handful of plays, that's pretty obvious, so no insight there . 

 

Lots of games look that way for a while, things change.  Colts were shredding Vikings two weeks ago in the first half.  How did that turn out?  Your desire to reach an overarching conclusion about the two teams over such a small sample size is silly.  There could have been a pick 6 on the next play and the Bills are up 10-7.  We'll never know.

i have zero idea what this is lost on some.  

[Kiva]

Two solutions:

1. give both teams the win

2. Resume the game. 
 

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, DJB said:

Of course. I’ve watched NFL for 30 years. 
 

But my point stands that if we analyze the 10 plays or whatever we had on D we were getting shredded. No way to argue differently 

They executed well for 8 plays-  

 

We executed well for 10 plays- then brown didn’t pick up a blitz for an incompletion and Allen threw a high pass that Beasley could’ve come down with, but didn’t.  
 

let’s not act like the bengals would’ve executed everything to perfection the entire game because they did on their first 8 plays.  
 

this thread is 💩 
 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Kiva said:

Two solutions:

1. give both teams the win

2. Resume the game. 
 

3- no contest- both teams finish the season with 16 games

4- rule it a tie- really doubt that happens. 

[Casey D]

Just now, Kiva said:

Two solutions:

1. give both teams the win

2. Resume the game. 
 

Neither will happen.  No time to play the game, the NFL is not going to change the playoff schedule over a seeding issue.  They will not give both teams a win, that makes zero sense.  It will simply be a no contest, and seeding will be done with Bills and Bengals having played a 16 game schedule. 

[Reks Ryan]

For you guys who are saying the Bengals were on the way to blowout,  It makes me wonder if you have paid any attention to the Bills first 15 games.    Points allowed per quarter is a a good stat to illustrate why the game was far from decided with 50+ minutes to play.  The Bills rank 26th in 1st QTR points allowed, but are 2nd to the 49ers in points allowed per game. 

 

 

Yes CInci came out fast and physical.   But the Bills looked like the were going to have an effective ball control O and Josh Allen had his big game attitude and focus going.   The Defense has shown the ability to adjust and get stops.   They're not the #2 scoring defense by luck 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Reks Ryan
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[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:

For you guys who are saying the Begals were on the way to blowout,  It makes me wonder if you have paid any attention to the Bills first 15 games.    Points allowed per quarter is a a good stat to illustrate why the game was far from decided with 50+ minutes to play.  The Bills rank 26th in 1st QTR points allowed, but are 2nd to the 49ers in points allowed per game. 

 

 

Yes CInci came out fast and physical.   But the Bills looked like the were going to have an effective ball control O and Josh Allen had his big game attitude and focus going.   The Defense has shown the ability to adjust and get stops.   They're not the #2 scoring defense by luck 

 

Thank you. 

 

[Bill Grundy]

I used to think the Bills were the most cursed franchise in the NFL. But the ‘they got to play us’ meme puts the Bengals right up there 

Edited January 3, 2023 by LondonBill

[Sharky7337]

What is really concerning to me, is the bills defense is supposed to be a good unit, and the Bengals absolutely said we don't think they are and just totally disrespected them in a sense by wanting the ball first. 

 

That says to me that our defense isn't worth the money and investment we have in it right now.

 

 

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:

For you guys who are saying the Bengals were on the way to blowout,  It makes me wonder if you have paid any attention to the Bills first 15 games.    Points allowed per quarter is a a good stat to illustrate why the game was far from decided with 50+ minutes to play.  The Bills rank 26th in 1st QTR points allowed, but are 2nd to the 49ers in points allowed per game. 

 

 

Yes CInci came out fast and physical.   But the Bills looked like the were going to have an effective ball control O and Josh Allen had his big game attitude and focus going.   The Defense has shown the ability to adjust and get stops.   They're not the #2 scoring defense by luck 

But you must’ve missed those 8 plays.  Those 8 plays were different 

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Sharky7337 said:

What is really concerning to me, is the bills defense is supposed to be a good unit, and the Bengals absolutely said we don't think they are and just totally disrespected them in a sense by wanting the ball first. 

 

That says to me that our defense isn't worth the money and investment we have in it right now.

 

 

Bengals have been taking kickoffs all season

[BuffaloMatt]

Any word on Johnson? 

[PatsFanNH]

2 hours ago, Caesar said:

 

 

What game are you talking about?   There was no  "long long pass" interception this game?  Seriously, if you are going to make stuff up add a disclaimer.     Im not sure I even want to debate this awful set of lies....

2nd & 14 at NE 18

(4:19 - 2nd) (Shotgun) J.Burrow pass short middle intended for T.Boyd INTERCEPTED by D.McCourty at NE 15. 

4th & 4 at NE 25

(9:06 - 4th) E.McPherson 43 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Left, Center-C.Adomitis, Holder-D.Chrisman.

See the pic, not close to Washington's chest with TWO defenders sticking their mmm arms in to knock the pass down.   Question: Do you always blatantly lie like this on this message board?  Do you have ANY credibility whatsoever?  


 

Umm the only INT of note was M Jones at the Pats 42 returned for a TD. McCourty almost picked a deep ball in the third but dropped it.  The other turnover was on Cincy 44 and was a fumble.  No one was talking about the 1st half where Cincy walked over them to a 22-0 lead.

 

I stand corrected on the FG but even that, if the Pats don’t fumble or miss the extra point they had a chance to win. 

 

as for the Washington play.. the ball is in his hands he should catch it. (In real time it looked like it was in his chest lol) 

Sorry the second half the Bengals were obviously looking ahead to the Bills game.. they were on the most part flat.