Interesting Diggs Split Stat from The Athletic

[inthebuff]

"When Diggs was on the field, the Bills gained 432 yards and averaged an outstanding 7.2 yards per play. Diggs played on all but 11 snaps for the Bills. On those 11 plays, the Bills gained only 11 yards — a horrible average of one yard per play."

 

Whoa.

 

There could be some factors - which Joe Buscaglia really didn't delve into in the article - he just pointed out the average yards per play when Diggs is not on the field.  The article points out that there aren't other skill players who "strikes fear into the opponent. "

[Warriorspikes51]

Diggs and Josh haven't quite had their "bestie" chemistry on the field the last few games

 

I hope he is fed the ball in Chicago 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Warriorspikes51

[TOboy]

Diggs is our #1 weapon and one of the elite guys in the NFL so this should come as no surprise. 
 

That said, I suspect the plays Diggs has sat out may be skewed by short yardage or obvious run plays. Also, the sample size is pretty small. 

Edited December 19, 2022 by TOboy

[DaggersEOD]

Pfft slacker. 11 plays off?

 

Time to climb off that giant pile of money and play some ball FFS 😁

[SCBills]

Not shocking.. I'd have to imagine the Chiefs splits are similar with Kelce on/off the field.  

 

Both teams now have one elite playmaker and some guys.  

 

Comparing the Bills/Chiefs skill guys to the Bengals, Dolphins, Chargers is pretty eye-opening. 

[Dan Darragh]

11 plays is a miniscule sample size, this is meaningless drivel.

[muppy]

I like this stat better

 

 

[716]

  On 12/19/2022 at 3:46 PM, SCBills said:

Not shocking.. I'd have to imagine the Chiefs splits are similar with Kelce on/off the field.  

 

Both teams now have one elite playmaker and some guys.  

 

Comparing the Bills/Chiefs skill guys to the Bengals, Dolphins, Chargers is pretty eye-opening. 

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It really highlights the value of having a true QB 1. 

[appoo]

  On 12/19/2022 at 3:13 PM, inthebuff said:

"When Diggs was on the field, the Bills gained 432 yards and averaged an outstanding 7.2 yards per play. Diggs played on all but 11 snaps for the Bills. On those 11 plays, the Bills gained only 11 yards — a horrible average of one yard per play."

 

Whoa.

 

There could be some factors - which Joe Buscaglia really didn't delve into in the article - he just pointed out the average yards per play when Diggs is not on the field.  The article points out that there aren't other skill players who "strikes fear into the opponent. "

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That could be a wildly misleading stat, in prior games Diggs came off on bigger sets, when the offense only wanted 1-3 yards.

 

Would need a lot more analysis to make this an actually useful stat

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 12/19/2022 at 3:46 PM, SCBills said:

Not shocking.. I'd have to imagine the Chiefs splits are similar with Kelce on/off the field.  

 

Both teams now have one elite playmaker and some guys.  

 

Comparing the Bills/Chiefs skill guys to the Bengals, Dolphins, Chargers is pretty eye-opening. 

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Couldn't agree more. Teams like Miami & Cincy with 2 elite pass catchers makes a world of difference. 

[Solomon Grundy]

  On 12/19/2022 at 3:46 PM, SCBills said:

Not shocking.. I'd have to imagine the Chiefs splits are similar with Kelce on/off the field.  

 

Both teams now have one elite playmaker and some guys.  

 

Comparing the Bills/Chiefs skill guys to the Bengals, Dolphins, Chargers is pretty eye-opening. 

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McKinnon is a bonafide weapon in the Chiefs offense

[somnus00]

  On 12/19/2022 at 4:55 PM, LABILLBACKER said:

Couldn't agree more. Teams like Miami & Cincy with 2 elite pass catchers makes a world of difference. 

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We need some playmakers on rookie contracts from the next couple of drafts. Outside of Allen and Diggs we don't have much. At least not consistently. 

[Alphadawg7]

  On 12/19/2022 at 3:13 PM, inthebuff said:

"When Diggs was on the field, the Bills gained 432 yards and averaged an outstanding 7.2 yards per play. Diggs played on all but 11 snaps for the Bills. On those 11 plays, the Bills gained only 11 yards — a horrible average of one yard per play."

 

Whoa.

 

There could be some factors - which Joe Buscaglia really didn't delve into in the article - he just pointed out the average yards per play when Diggs is not on the field.  The article points out that there aren't other skill players who "strikes fear into the opponent. "

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Well this is misleading.  How many of those 11 snaps did we have a big formation to go for a short yard conversion?  
 

The formations and plays called and game situation play so much into this that this stat can’t be relied on to mean anything without that context.

[SCBills]

  On 12/19/2022 at 6:05 PM, somnus00 said:

We need some playmakers on rookie contracts from the next couple of drafts. Outside of Allen and Diggs we don't have much. At least not consistently. 

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I feel like Gabe and Knox are starting to show signs... There's sign of life from them in the passing game.  It's not popping just yet.. Gabe still isn't putting up numbers a WR2 should in this Offense and Knox still has the drops here and there.   But Davis is starting to show he can do more than just go routes, and Knox showed why he's so dangerous when we can get him vertical in the passing game.  

 

Get those two going heading into the playoffs, and this Offense will take off.  

 

Things should open up more for us when the Bills take the restraints off Allen and he just starts gashing teams on the ground whenever they give him a lane. 

[wjag]

It's not hard to fathom.  When Diggs is off, there isn't a bigger tell in football that a run is coming.

[ticketssince61]

  On 12/19/2022 at 6:08 PM, Alphadawg7 said:

Well this is misleading.  How many of those 11 snaps did we have a big formation to go for a short yard conversion?  
 

The formations and plays called and game situation play so much into this that this stat can’t be relied on to mean anything without that context.

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Exactly - he is taken off of the field for the really short yardage situations. 

[78thealltimegreat]

Not surprised when you bring back Cole and John you don’t have much confidence in the other guys currently on the roster 

[Big Turk]

  On 12/19/2022 at 3:13 PM, inthebuff said:

"When Diggs was on the field, the Bills gained 432 yards and averaged an outstanding 7.2 yards per play. Diggs played on all but 11 snaps for the Bills. On those 11 plays, the Bills gained only 11 yards — a horrible average of one yard per play."

 

Whoa.

 

There could be some factors - which Joe Buscaglia really didn't delve into in the article - he just pointed out the average yards per play when Diggs is not on the field.  The article points out that there aren't other skill players who "strikes fear into the opponent. "

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That's because when he is off the field it's usually in obvious run situations, which the Bills didn't do so well in this game.

[Beck Water]

  On 12/19/2022 at 3:19 PM, Warriorspikes51 said:

Diggs and Josh haven't quite had their "bestie" chemistry on the field the last few games

 

I hope he is fed the ball in Chicago 

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With all respect, I think that's a mistaken hope.

 

Diggs was "fed" the ball against Detroit.  He wound up with 8 catches on 15 targets or 53% catch

 

Diggs needs to get the ball when he's open.   If Josh has time, Diggs will usually work his way open.  He's very good.

 

But especially when the OL isn't holding up against the pass rush du jour, we need to do more of what we did vs. Miami: spread the ball around to other targets.  Take the quick shots.  Then when the defense is like "oh, we're being nibbled to death, we need to stop it", throw to Diggs.

 

Nate Geary:

 

 

And Diggs needs to stop getting visibly pissy on the field and throwing his helmet (IMO) when someone else is targeted and he thinks it should be him.  He doesn't know the timing, he doesn't know what Josh is seeing, he's putting a lot of pressure on his QB.  Contrary to what people say, this is far from saying "I was open, throw to me, I'll make you right" on the sideline or "I Got You" in the huddle.

 

The above didn't stop Diggs from getting his targets BTW, he got just as many. 

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Beck Water

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 12/19/2022 at 6:05 PM, somnus00 said:

We need some playmakers on rookie contracts from the next couple of drafts. Outside of Allen and Diggs we don't have much. At least not consistently. 

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That's why it's critical we draft 2 wrs next year. Diggs is quickly approaching 30. Cole & John are playoff rentals.  Who knows what happens to Gabe or Isaiah based on inconsistent play? We have a ton of question marks for next season.