WideNine Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 19 hours ago, DapperCam said: Team is learning to close out games and not do stupid crap to let the other team back in it. Kind of boring to watch sometimes. My ticker needed a boring win. I thought the big one was coming when I was watching the game against MN. 3 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: Those WEEI calls are funny, but to be fair that’s what WGR would sound like if the Bills lose to the Jets next week. Shush that business. The fickle football gods are smiling on our team and helping FGs doink off the crossbars don't jinx it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Who can read lips? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Baldy’s Breakdown on JCook’s run. #GutRipping I did not realize that was a 28 uard run until watching the video. Cook just moves so smooth for a rookie 😋 and it does not even look like he is going fast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, scuba guy said: I did not realize that was a 28 uard run until watching the video. Cook just moves so smooth for a rookie 😋 and it does not even look like he is going fast His initial burst is really impressive. He doesn’t hesitate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, scuba guy said: I did not realize that was a 28 uard run until watching the video. Cook just moves so smooth for a rookie 😋 and it does not even look like he is going fast I said a while back. When he runs in space, he doesn't look like he's running but more like he's gliding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Rewatching the game. Quesenberry was even worse than I thought. He straight up fell down on one play without even touching a defender and then Uche ran right by him a play later. I haven't gotten to the sack from Uche which I'm sure will again be someone running right by him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I said a while back. When he runs in space, he doesn't look like he's running but more like he's gliding. Yep immediately noticeable, I agree. He's the type of back you need to give a bit of space, clear that initial hole, and he'll take off (Hines is the exact same way, but more straight line speed, less moves) Edited December 3, 2022 by Tom Donahoe, GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I really need to know if Judon is actually a good player and Allen makes him look bad or he's just really not that good of a player and Allen makes him look worse? Maybe one of the resident pats fans can let me know because all I've seen from him in the last 3 games is him chasing Allen's vapor trail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Rewatching the game. Quesenberry was even worse than I thought. He straight up fell down on one play without even touching a defender and then Uche ran right by him a play later. I haven't gotten to the sack from Uche which I'm sure will again be someone running right by him. Well he’s a backup who was playing on an injured ankle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, The Wiz said: I really need to know if Judon is actually a good player and Allen makes him look bad or he's just really not that good of a player and Allen makes him look worse? Maybe one of the resident pats fans can let me know because all I've seen from him in the last 3 games is him chasing Allen's vapor trail. He’s very good. I may be incorrect but I think he’s leading in sacks. He leads the Pats* for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: He’s very good. I may be incorrect but I think he’s leading in sacks. He leads the Pats* for sure. I've only watch maybe 2 or 3 pats games that weren't against the bills this year so that's good to know that the bills basically scheme to make him useless along with Allen just being Allen to make him look worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well he’s a backup who was playing on an injured ankle I mean you're right but tell that to Allen who was hit multiple times from behind before he got strip sacked and thrown on his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Baldy’s Breakdown on JCook’s run. #GutRipping Nice. A few more of Baldy's Breakdowns: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 6 hours ago, JDubya76 said: Their accents are like nails on a chalkboard "I'm givin my tickets to my coworkas and goin home to fieet with my whyf" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: I really need to know if Judon is actually a good player and Allen makes him look bad or he's just really not that good of a player and Allen makes him look worse? Maybe one of the resident pats fans can let me know because all I've seen from him in the last 3 games is him chasing Allen's vapor trail. Judon is a very good player. He is currently leading the league in sacks with 13. 2nd in QB hits, 8 in TFL. He's a terror. The Bills have pretty much had a Plan for him ever since 2019 when he strip-sacked Josh Allen in Baltimore for a sack-fumble TD. Leaving Sweeney to block him, leading to a holding call, was a plan I guess - but it was a Bad Plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: His initial burst is really impressive. He doesn’t hesitate Very different from Singletary, who is patient then quick enough to dodge the first contact. I like both, but it’s an interesting blend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Georgia Bill Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 21 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: Yet again, I'm happy Superman plays for our team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Maine-iac said: I'm going to put on my flame suit here and say Mac Jones doesn't deserve all the flack he's getting. Poor bastard has Matt Patricia as an OC. I'm not saying Mac Jones is championship caliber but he's standing up there begging for a more explosive offense and I'm not sure Patricia or Belichik are capable of coaching that. No flaming from here. There are times when you change coaches or offensive coordinators and all of a sudden a guy who looked "Seriously?" becomes "Damn! OK!" Example would be Daniel Jones, who looked functional for a rookie under Pat Shurmer/Mike Shula. Then he started looking pretty clueless under Joe Judge/Jason Garrett & Freddie Kitchens. Lo and behold, Daboll/Mike Kafka and a healthy run game and Daniel Jones seems serviceable once again. You'd like him to be collecting a few more passing yards per game, but everything else (TD/INT ratio, completion % etc) you can win with. 4 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: See Tua.... Flores wanted him gone!! Agree, Tua would be another example of the difference a good OC and HC can make, but TBF adding Hill to Waddle didn't hurt. I would put Mac Jones in the same category - I don't find him likeable or charismatic, but give him his propers. He was able to be a perfectly functional QB under Josh McDaniel, in an offense based on making the right reads and getting the ball out in rhythm, then taking a few deep shots when they're there. Completion %, 22 TD to 13 INTs, YPG - those were all good enough QB play to win with, supported by a good run game and a top D. Edited December 3, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Since some of us were "down" on Cook for faking out his own QB and not being QB friendly last week. Here's Cook last night "doing the Right Thing". YES!!!! 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 6 hours ago, JDubya76 said: He’s a pro bowler baby! Doesn’t matter that five quarterbacks had a bow out before he was asked, we’ll just forget that part of the story. That is mister top 100 Lil Mac Jones to you. Pardon my ignorance but what the F is this? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, Beck Water said: Since some of us were "down" on Cook for faking out his own QB and not being QB friendly last week. Here's Cook last night "doing the Right Thing". YES!!!! And tagging in here. Here's a screen shot from the TNF "Prime Vision" option Turner put up. This IMHO totally illustrates what some of us are saying about Dorsey's play design. Three receivers are running routes 10-15 yds from the LOS at this point, and are pretty well covered. Allen has always, all his career, looked PAST the 1st down marker. So he's been throwing to one of these guys, trusting his arm and forcing the throw at times. (Spoiler: two of the receivers are running deep crossers and Diggs, I think it is, eventually blows past his guy and comes open downfield. Given time, those routes do work) But it's not that he doesn't have options. He's got Knox (I think) who has chipped and released and has no one within 10 yds of him. Then he has Cook, who this time (thank you!) makes the right move to find the throwing lane, catches the ball, and gains about 12 YAC for a nice 14 yd pickup and the 1st down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Sal Capaccio's take Quote Ken Dorsey The Bills offensive coordinator called a terrific game. He knew his left tackle was out and kept the game-plan offensive line friendly with shorter throws and a balanced attack. Quote Aaron Kromer and offensive line Both the offensive line and their coach deserve an Arrow Up for the game plan and execution, especially without Dion Dawkins. Agree? Disagree? Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Joe B article from The Athletic. Paywall Quote Just as they did against the Browns, the Bills worked in the running game far more than they usually do and used heavier sets to help their cause. The Bills used heavier formations on 22 percent of their non-kneel down plays throughout the game, which helped open up 112 yards on 29 carries for their running backs on the Patriots, who usually are a stout run defense. It was also a keep away effort in the second half where they quickly ran through clock by racking up plays, first downs and time of possession in one fell swoop. Their 15-play, 94-yard touchdown drive that extended through the end of the third quarter and into the fourth gobbled up nearly nine minutes of the second half. And by that point in the game, the Patriots had only run 31 offensive plays. It was utter dominance, even if the scoreline didn’t show the Bills putting up 40. Quote Cook was on the field early and often, leading the way in snaps almost the entirety of the game. By the end of it, his 33 snaps to Singletary’s 32 and Hines’ 24 gave Cook the edge, but that’s not where it ended. Cook popped for several big plays and managed some decent gains when the big plays weren’t available. His 28-yard run looked effortless as he snuck through a smaller crease and zoomed up the field to maximize the gain. And as a pass-catcher, Cook possesses the explosive open-field qualities that Singletary has lacked since the Bills drafted him. It was a true breakout game for Cook Quote Against the Browns in Week 11, the Bills flashed a personnel package including both Cook and Nyheim Hines as a means to put pressure on the defense in different ways. They did it on a handful of snaps, but it wasn’t a heavy piece of their game plan. Then against the Lions in Week 12, the Bills mostly went away from that personnel grouping...... ......for the Patriots game, as they used Cook and Hines on the field together a whopping 12 times throughout the game. While it doesn’t seem like a lot, that’s far more two-running back sets than the Bills had ever run previously. The Bills effectively used Hines in a similar way Brian Daboll used Isaiah McKenzie as a gadget receiver several years ago. And despite some plays that were duds, it was highly productive with some chunk plays. The Bills gained 78 yards on those 12 plays, for an average of 6.5 yards each time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Joe B article from The Athletic. Paywall Did you seriously quote the full article? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Did you seriously quote the full article? Um, are you serious in asking that question or just yanking my chain? Of course not. I quoted 3 paragraphs that made one specific point, out of many points made in the article, out of a very long article. The whole article would require scrolling through about 9 screens full of just writing. Edited December 3, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Um, are you serious in asking that question or just yanking my chain? Of course not. I quoted 3 paragraphs that made one specific point, out of many points made in the article, out of a very long article. The whole article would require scrolling through about 9 screens full of just writing. Yanking your chain, bud. I've seen less quoted stuff get harped on. Though, I have seen more also let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Turk Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: Sal Capaccio's take Agree? Disagree? Discuss. Not sure what there is to disagree about? Had a few tough plays for sure but opened up holes for the run game and Allen had time on some throws also. Gameplan looked similar to Rams and Titans game...take the easy throws, let them do the work, keep the chains moving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Beck Water said: And tagging in here. Here's a screen shot from the TNF "Prime Vision" option Turner put up. This IMHO totally illustrates what some of us are saying about Dorsey's play design. Three receivers are running routes 10-15 yds from the LOS at this point, and are pretty well covered. Allen has always, all his career, looked PAST the 1st down marker. So he's been throwing to one of these guys, trusting his arm and forcing the throw at times. (Spoiler: two of the receivers are running deep crossers and Diggs, I think it is, eventually blows past his guy and comes open downfield. Given time, those routes do work) But it's not that he doesn't have options. He's got Knox (I think) who has chipped and released and has no one within 10 yds of him. Then he has Cook, who this time (thank you!) makes the right move to find the throwing lane, catches the ball, and gains about 12 YAC for a nice 14 yd pickup and the 1st down. If this is how we're going to play offense I wouldn't expect Devin Singletary back. You can see why it was so important to them to have good checkdown options who catch smoothly and have the explosiveness to get up the field. Allen probably should have been checking down more than he was at times throughout the year but he's not going to feel good about doing that if the backs are not efficient on their end. Previously the Bills made money in the intermediate area, now it's more deep or checkdown than it was. Hopefully Cook continues to show out, it's important that draft pick works out for us. Edited December 3, 2022 by 2020 Our Year For Sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Beck Water said: Since some of us were "down" on Cook for faking out his own QB and not being QB friendly last week. Here's Cook last night "doing the Right Thing". YES!!!! That's great to see. I really enjoyed watching Cook in this game. He's looking less and less a rookie each week. I was kind of disappointed they went back to Singletary after Cook had a decent amount of runs, just because I wanted to see him pick up a head of steam and I wanted to see what he could do when they just kept going to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Beck Water said: Sal Capaccio's take Agree? Disagree? Discuss. agree except for the 2 really bad sweeps to Hines with no blockers in front of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Big Turk said: Not sure what there is to disagree about? Had a few tough plays for sure but opened up holes for the run game and Allen had time on some throws also. Gameplan looked similar to Rams and Titans game...take the easy throws, let them do the work, keep the chains moving. Well, both tackles were beaten like drums, Allen was under duress most of the game, we gave up a strip sack with a vicious hit from Allen’s blindside, and lost a TD to a holding penalty. Some would say that’s not good, even if it’s understandable. 10 hours ago, Maine-iac said: Rewatching the game. Quesenberry was even worse than I thought. He straight up fell down on one play without even touching a defender and then Uche ran right by him a play later. I haven't gotten to the sack from Uche which I'm sure will again be someone running right by him. Well and to someone else upthread, this is why I thought Sal’s arrow up on the OL would be controversial. Yeah, we had a good day in the run game, and yeah Quess playing hurt, but YIKEs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 hours ago, The Wiz said: Did you seriously quote the full article? He didn’t quote the whole article. Relax Karen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 46 minutes ago, Pete said: He didn’t quote the whole article. Relax Karen Sorry, I needed a snickers last night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 11:13 PM, billybob71 said: wasn't ever close or exciting but damn Al Michaels sounds so bored calling football games I think this every time. I honestly could see this being his last year because he is painfully uninterested in Thursday Night Football. I like the guy but his inability to get excited is a kind of a downer. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, JROC INTEL said: I think this every time. I honestly could see this being his last year because he is painfully uninterested in Thursday Night Football. I like the guy but his inability to get excited is a kind of a downer. Not for nothing, but the Thursday night football games have been pretty painfully uninteresting for most fans. But I agree, he just doesn't seem like he wants to do the job anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Maine-iac said: Rewatching the game. Quesenberry was even worse than I thought. He straight up fell down on one play without even touching a defender and then Uche ran right by him a play later. I haven't gotten to the sack from Uche which I'm sure will again be someone running right by him. I felt bad for him...he was obviously severely hobbled pretty much from the first series where he re-aggravated his ankle injury and had to get a massive tape job. Came back in to try and gut it out but obviously was not anything close to 100%. Gutsy effort from him, even if it wasn't a good performance. Edited December 3, 2022 by Big Turk 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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