Speaker Pelosi's Home Has Been Attacked

[Sundancer]

43 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

The article says they have the footage, but the people responsible for watching it missed the break in and had to rewind the tape when they noticed the police flashers at the home.

 

Therefore one is left to wonder about the timeline. How much critical time was missed between this nutjob breaking in and the 911 call?

 

 

 

Disgusting. 

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

The cult will lie about everting to distant themselves from the cause and effect of their rhetoric.

 

MAGA = trash

Kind of like lying about the GOP eliminating SS and Medicare?  🤔

 

Hate Example #12

 

Go on……

[OrangeBills]

17 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

This gay lover gone bad thing doesn’t even deserve the name “conspiracy theory.” There’s simply no facts to support it. None. And if it really was a weird gay lover spat, would they be charging the guy with attempted murder? And giving him the chance to put on a defense? If he hangs himself in jail, well, I guess you then have a starting point. Right now it’s just somebody saying “sometimes these kind of late night assaults come from disputes between a gay hooker and his client.” But some people can never accept that sometimes life is random and that not everything is part of a big conspiracy. 

 

I am not here to support any theory other than the updated Police version, and nobody (politician or otherwise) should ever be attacked, BUT...

 

I always get a hearty laugh when Dems/Leftists espouse these views that normal people are crazy to suspect something suspicious happened because "there's no evidence" or "he said he didn't know him and had never seen him before"

 

Of course if Paul was having something untoward going on while Nancy was away, he's going to say I don't know him.  OF COURSE he would.  

 

And OF COURSE the Police, at the direction of "Government officials" and the FBI wouldn't be out searching for evidence in such a case, thereby CREATING or DISCOVERING the evidence you say is not there to show another possible cause.  

 

The absence of something is not conclusive ESPECIALLY around something as sensitive as this...they're trying to turn a failed-city vagrant into an Ultra-MAGA hitman here, accommodations must be made.  

 

Ultimately, this country is worse off for the Leftist Sheep just taking their marching orders from their cabal leaders.  

 

For heavens sake, the Leftists' initial patron Saint sat up there and lied and denied that he had extra-marital relations right up there on the stand.  

 

Just not people with a lot of depth.

[Sundancer]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Kind of like lying about the GOP eliminating SS and Medicare?  🤔

 

Hate Example #12

 

Go on……

 

Whataboutism.

 

Stay on topic. 

 

“Wow, it’s — weird things going on in that household in the last couple of weeks. Probably, you and I are better off not talking about it. The glass it seems was broken from the inside to the out so it wasn’t a break in, it was a break out. I don’t know, you hear the same things I do,” Trump said.

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, Sundancer said:

 

Whataboutism.

 

Stay on topic. 

 

“Wow, it’s — weird things going on in that household in the last couple of weeks. Probably, you and I are better off not talking about it. The glass it seems was broken from the inside to the out so it wasn’t a break in, it was a break out. I don’t know, you hear the same things I do,” Trump said.

Please forgive me for pointing out his nonstop hypocrisy. 🙄

[nedboy7]

3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

Kind of like lying about the GOP eliminating SS and Medicare?  🤔

 

Hate Example #12

 

Go on……

 

Chef you need to read more. 

 

https://about.bgov.com/news/entitlement-spending-cap-plans-linked-by-gop-to-debt-limit-deal/

 

Unless you feel Bloomberg is fake news of course. 

 

[ChiGoose]

6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

Chef you need to read more. 

 

https://about.bgov.com/news/entitlement-spending-cap-plans-linked-by-gop-to-debt-limit-deal/

 

Unless you feel Bloomberg is fake news of course. 

 

 

Anything they disagree with is fake news.

[The Frankish Reich]

3 hours ago, OrangeBills said:

The absence of something is not conclusive ESPECIALLY around something as sensitive as this...they're trying to turn a failed-city vagrant into an Ultra-MAGA hitman here, accommodations must be made

And there’s your not-so-hidden agenda. It is important for you and your ilk to create alternative scenarios — even bizarre gay hooker pickup gone bad scenarios — to counteract the obvious fact that this guy was: (1) not all there mentally; AND (2) influenced by nutty QAnon conspiracy theories. 
I repeat: the gay hooker narrative seemed to emerge from a report that the attacker was in his underwear when the cops arrived. That’s it. (And I don’t know if that has been confirmed or refuted.) in some alternative universe there could be facts like “Pelosi was seen leaving a SF bar with a man fitting the description of the attacker and taking an Uber with him to Pelosi’s home.”  OK, in that case, some speculation about the nature of the attack would be warranted. But we have nothing like that. Nothing. It’s an ass-covering story now by fringey MAGA/Q types who don’t want to admit that their wacko politics has a special appeal to the mentally ill. Because, you know, it’s effin crazy. 

[nedboy7]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Anything they disagree with is fake news.

 

It's ***** disturbing.  Notice not one charge came from the movie 2000 mules and now the supposed head mule is suing that POS producer?  You find voter fraud great charge them.  If not STFU after 2 years. 

[OrangeBills]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

And there’s your not-so-hidden agenda. It is important for you and your ilk to create alternative scenarios — even bizarre gay hooker pickup gone bad scenarios — to counteract the obvious fact that this guy was: (1) not all there mentally; AND (2) influenced by nutty QAnon conspiracy theories. 
I repeat: the gay hooker narrative seemed to emerge from a report that the attacker was in his underwear when the cops arrived. That’s it. (And I don’t know if that has been confirmed or refuted.) in some alternative universe there could be facts like “Pelosi was seen leaving a SF bar with a man fitting the description of the attacker and taking an Uber with him to Pelosi’s home.”  OK, in that case, some speculation about the nature of the attack would be warranted. But we have nothing like that. Nothing. It’s an ass-covering story now by fringey MAGA/Q types who don’t want to admit that their wacko politics has a special appeal to the mentally ill. Because, you know, it’s effin crazy. 

 

This is incorrect.  I am not going on national television declaring this random tragedy to be a symptom of "MAGA behavior" whatever that is....that is the doing of Pres Biden, Nancy Pelosi, MSM, etc etc.  

 

If we believe the police narrative, and I stated up front that I am, he was just a nutjob who hated gov't and seems like unfortunately Nancy seemed to be the most powerful person living in his small realm.  

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Anything they disagree with is fake news.

One man’s “fake news” is another man’s “disinformation”. If you haven’t figured out that both sides are doing this, I’m not sure what to tell you. 

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

And there’s your not-so-hidden agenda. It is important for you and your ilk to create alternative scenarios — even bizarre gay hooker pickup gone bad scenarios — to counteract the obvious fact that this guy was: (1) not all there mentally; AND (2) influenced by nutty QAnon conspiracy theories. 
I repeat: the gay hooker narrative seemed to emerge from a report that the attacker was in his underwear when the cops arrived. That’s it. (And I don’t know if that has been confirmed or refuted.) in some alternative universe there could be facts like “Pelosi was seen leaving a SF bar with a man fitting the description of the attacker and taking an Uber with him to Pelosi’s home.”  OK, in that case, some speculation about the nature of the attack would be warranted. But we have nothing like that. Nothing. It’s an ass-covering story now by fringey MAGA/Q types who don’t want to admit that their wacko politics has a special appeal to the mentally ill. Because, you know, it’s effin crazy. 

 

The thing that gets me about this sort of thing is that it stems from the fact that they cannot accept that anything that makes their side look bad is true. So even if there is a very simple explanation supported by the facts, they come up with the craziest BS to deflect and say it's actually liberals and nothing wrong ever came from the right.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

The thing that gets me about this sort of thing is that it stems from the fact that they cannot accept that anything that makes their side look bad is true. So even if there is a very simple explanation supported by the facts, they come up with the craziest BS to deflect and say it's actually liberals and nothing wrong ever came from the right.

 

 

Oh come on! This crazy dude isn’t your classic Trump supporter. He’s a not job! How you overlook that the sitting President just suggested this was an act of right wing extremist is beyond me. 

[unbillievable]

Only in Biden's America!

[Chef Jim]

17 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

Chef you need to read more. 

 

https://about.bgov.com/news/entitlement-spending-cap-plans-linked-by-gop-to-debt-limit-deal/

 

Unless you feel Bloomberg is fake news of course. 

 

 

You need to read better.  Please point to where, in that article, any GOP member called for the elimination of SS and Medicare.

 

FTA:

 

Quote

Smith said Republicans will focus on “protecting and preserving” Social Security and Medicare, but he declined to say specifically if he supports the RSC proposal to raise the eligibility age. He said broadly that Republicans would find “innovative ways to drive down the cost of health care.”

 

[wnyguy]

I just thought it was 2 guys in their underwears fighting over a hammer, nothing we haven't seen before.

[unbillievable]

1 minute ago, wnyguy said:

I just thought it was 2 guys in their underwears fighting over a hammer, nothing we haven't seen before.

Where did the hammer come from?

 

 

[nedboy7]

15 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

One man’s “fake news” is another man’s “disinformation”. If you haven’t figured out that both sides are doing this, I’m not sure what to tell you. 

 

If you think Bloomberg is disinformation you are a fool.  You should know this being in finance supposedly.  Read the ***** article. 

BTW where is your voter fraud case?  Talk about disinformation. 

9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Oh come on! This crazy dude isn’t your classic Trump supporter. He’s a not job! How you overlook that the sitting President just suggested this was an act of right wing extremist is beyond me. 

 

Watch some real Trumpers!!   Funny ***** right there.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ

Edited November 2, 2022 by nedboy7

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, nedboy7 said:

 

If you think Bloomberg is disinformation you are a fool.  You should know this being in finance supposedly.  Read the ***** article. 

BTW where is your voter fraud case?  Talk about disinformation. 

Oh know…looks like you’re the ‘fool’.
 

I don’t work in finance. So that right there shows you how hard it is get every fact correct. BOTH sides spin every story to their political advantage. That’s not the problem. The problem is that the press has stopped asking good questions….on both sides. 

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

If you think Bloomberg is disinformation you are a fool.  

 

Bloomberg is information.  Those saying that members of the GOP are calling for the elimination of SS and Medicare are playing the lying/disinformation game to get votes.  I hope voters on the left aren't that gullible but there are a lot of gullible people on both sides our there.  

[nedboy7]

11 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

You need to read better.  Please point to where, in that article, any GOP member called for the elimination of SS and Medicare.

 

FTA:

 

 

 

Republican Study Committee Chairman Jim Jordan said yesterday the plan “basically mirrors the budget proposal that the House passed this year.”

That would be the same Republican budget proposal that ends the Medicare guarantee and more than doubles heath care costs for seniors, all while preserving tax breaks for the wealthy.

 

That’s House Republicans’ official twitter mouthpiece telling its 1.3 million followers to read that Republicans believe they have not only the opportunity but the responsibility to start slashing the Social Security and Medicare that seniors rely upon: “we must begin addressing the real debt drivers – mandatory spending programs…”

 

158 out of 212 House Republicans, including top GOP leadership Members Whip Scalise and Chair Stefanik, have called for slashing and privatizing Social Security, raising the retirement age to 70 and ending Medicare as we know it as part of the Republican Study Committee FY2023 budget.

 

At least be proud of your party.  Stop playing word games. 

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Bloomberg is information.  Those saying that members of the GOP are calling for the elimination of SS and Medicare are playing the lying/disinformation game to get votes.  I hope voters on the left aren't that gullible but there are a lot of gullible people on both sides our there.  

 

Sort of like when they said abortion would be a state issue and you all said that was disinformation that they would go after it at a federal level? 

 

Some Republicans were stunned by the bill — or at least its timing — saying it puts the party in a difficult situation going into the midterms, Burgess Everett, Marianne Levine and Sarah Ferris report.

Graham’s bill is stricter than his earlier proposals, which limited abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy and was a shift from his earlier argument that the decision should be left to the states.

Some Republican members think voters still see it that way, opting for states to keep control.

 

At least it stunned some in the GOP. 

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

Republican Study Committee Chairman Jim Jordan said yesterday the plan “basically mirrors the budget proposal that the House passed this year.”

That would be the same Republican budget proposal that ends the Medicare guarantee and more than doubles heath care costs for seniors, all while preserving tax breaks for the wealthy.

 

That’s House Republicans’ official twitter mouthpiece telling its 1.3 million followers to read that Republicans believe they have not only the opportunity but the responsibility to start slashing the Social Security and Medicare that seniors rely upon: “we must begin addressing the real debt drivers – mandatory spending programs…”

 

158 out of 212 House Republicans, including top GOP leadership Members Whip Scalise and Chair Stefanik, have called for slashing and privatizing Social Security, raising the retirement age to 70 and ending Medicare as we know it as part of the Republican Study Committee FY2023 budget.

 

At least be proud of your party.  Stop playing word games. 

 

 

 

My party?  I have no party.  You assume too much.

 

And you tell me to stop playing word games when it's people like @BillStime and President Biden that are playing word games.  Turning words like cutting, reducing, slashing into words like "eliminating" and "taking away".   No one is talking about eliminating SS and Medicare except the fearmongers who appear to be scared shitless regarding the midterms.  

[Wacka]

33 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

I just thought it was 2 guys in their underwears fighting over a hammer, nothing we haven't seen before.

An everyday occurrence in SF!

[OrangeBills]

45 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

If you think Bloomberg is disinformation you are a fool.  You should know this being in finance supposedly.  Read the ***** article. 

BTW where is your voter fraud case?  Talk about disinformation. 

 

Watch some real Trumpers!!   Funny ***** right there.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ

 

Bloomberg News is actually off the rails these days.  Can't rely on it or the information therein. 

 

Has become just another mouthpiece   

[Doc]

6 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

The article says they have the footage, but the people responsible for watching it missed the break in and had to rewind the tape when they noticed the police flashers at the home.

 

Therefore one is left to wonder about the timeline. How much critical time was missed between this nutjob breaking in and the 911 call?

 

The footage must be with the 14,000 hours of J6 footage...

 

5 hours ago, Sundancer said:

You bought into a stupid rumor and spread it gleefully. 

 

Check yourself. But especially check yourself when we're talking about violence at a Congressperson's home.

 

 

 

I did?  Where?  Please quote it for us.

[nedboy7]

59 minutes ago, OrangeBills said:

 

Bloomberg News is actually off the rails these days.  Can't rely on it or the information therein. 

 

Has become just another mouthpiece   

 

Where do you get your info?  Let's hear it. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Anything they disagree with is fake news.

I bet you don’t think this comes from both sides though….  😂 

[OrangeBills]

7 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

Where do you get your info?  Let's hear it. 

 

I read the WSJ and NYTimes every day.  I read Bloomberg News constantly all day long (weekdays).  And I read the NY Post when I find myself on the train home (weekdays).

 

Websites would be CNN & NBC News.  I used to read Drudge for a long time but 3-4 years ago it became unreadable.  Guess we have to include Apple News and Twitter these days.  I think that covers it.  

 

And of course, PPP

[JaCrispy]

2 hours ago, wnyguy said:

I just thought it was 2 guys in their underwears fighting over a hammer, nothing we haven't seen before.

Especially in San Fran…😉

2 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

 

If you think Bloomberg is disinformation you are a fool.  You should know this being in finance supposedly.  Read the ***** article. 

BTW where is your voter fraud case?  Talk about disinformation. 

 

Watch some real Trumpers!!   Funny ***** right there.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIJH5gufaQ

Yeah…these are always entertaining to watch…

[nedboy7]

10 minutes ago, OrangeBills said:

 

I read the WSJ and NYTimes every day.  I read Bloomberg News constantly all day long (weekdays).  And I read the NY Post when I find myself on the train home (weekdays).

 

Websites would be CNN & NBC News.  I used to read Drudge for a long time but 3-4 years ago it became unreadable.  Guess we have to include Apple News and Twitter these days.  I think that covers it.  

 

And of course, PPP

 

Basically what I read.  Appreciate the response. 

[OrangeBills]

9 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

 

Basically what I read.  Appreciate the response. 

 

I will say, in addition to Bloomberg, the NYTimes is essentially becoming unreadable now as well.

 

The WSJ will call it when, say, Trump is saying or doing something dumb.  The NYTimes is such mouth-piece that you have to challenge even "facts" they're spewing on their pages.  

[Sundancer]

13 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I did?  Where?  Please quote it for us.

 

 

And you also bought into the BS that they were friends.

 

You ate it all up. 

 

Maybe not to B-Man’s level of indecency but right along side him. 

[Irv]

Is this stupid topic going to follow in the footsteps of every other BS topic wrung to death by this Socialist failure idiots?  God help us. What a mess.  
 

 

Edited November 3, 2022 by Irv

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

 

 

And you also bought into the BS that they were friends.

 

You ate it all up. 

 

Maybe not to B-Man’s level of indecency but right along side him. 

 

Bought into it?  He actually called him a "friend" on the 911 call.  

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, Irv said:

Is this stupid topic going to follow in the footsteps of every other BS topic wrung to death by this Socialist failure idiots?  God help us. What a mess.  
 

 

It’s way worse than that Irv. The President of the United States just went on national television and vilified millions of supporters of his political rival by associating them with the actions of some crazed, drugged out nutcase. All apparently with no knowledge of any connection whatsoever. Unbelievable.
 

Where’s Adam Schiff when we need him? Ukraine phone call, my arse! 

[Chef Jim]

31 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s way worse than that Irv. The President of the United States just went on national television and vilified millions of supporters of his political rival by associating them with the actions of some crazed, drugged out nutcase. All apparently with no knowledge of any connection whatsoever. Unbelievable.
 

Where’s Adam Schiff when we need him? Ukraine phone call, my arse! 

Wait…..how did he associate people to the nut?  I didn’t watch. 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Chef Jim said:

Wait…..how did he associate people to the nut?  I didn’t watch. 

You really need to watch it. Unbelievable! This country is in big trouble. 

[Chef Jim]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

You really need to watch it. Unbelievable! This country is in big trouble. 

Nope.  I may read the transcript but just like Trump’s speeches Biden’s make me cringe. 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

Nope.  I may read the transcript but just like Trump’s speeches Biden’s make me cringe. 

That’s a shame. It was cringe worthy. I don’t think people understand how dangerous his kind of partisan political rhetoric truly is. There’s no denying that Trump said some pretty aggressive stuff for sure but it was always directed at the people in power from the swamp to the media. Biden is directly targeting the voters. Unbelievable! 

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

That’s a shame. It was cringe worthy. I don’t think people understand how dangerous his kind of partisan political rhetoric truly is. There’s no denying that Trump said some pretty aggressive stuff for sure but it was always directed at the people in power from the swamp to the media. Biden is directly targeting the voters. Unbelievable! 

I don’t have to sit through a Biden speech to understand how dangerous the lies and rhetoric are.  But thanks anyway.