Bruffalo Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 A lot of hate here for a guy who clearly didn't have it all put together during his time in Buffalo and the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered but I'm not gonna hate on a guy for liking Buffalo. Wish it worked out better but it is what it is. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: A lot of hate here for a guy who clearly didn't have it all put together during his time in Buffalo and the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered but I'm not gonna hate on a guy for liking Buffalo. Wish it worked out better but it is what it is. How do you know "the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed"? You can offer someone who has a struggle with mental issues or substance abuse all the support network there is. You can't force them to take advantage of it if they're unready or unwilling. I'll grant I don't think the Bills handled his fracture correctly (I don't think we had a SOFTA staff and facility) but, Watkins also later admitted he ***** up his own rehab by taking his boot off and failing to follow medical advice. My thing: is I don't believe Sammy Watkins liked Buffalo at all when he was here. I think he viewed himself as a superior WR talent stuck on an inferior team with 2nd rate QB (Orton and Taylor) throwing to him. I think when we traded him to the LA Rams he viewed it as release and redemption - the chance to become the player he deserved to be! Except he was consistently outplayed by the WR ahead of him on the depth chart. I think his Buffa-Love was created in hindsight by the chance to play with 3 different SB winning QB and failing to achieve the same production he had with the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Beck Water said: How do you know "the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed"? During his tenure the Bills did not have the culture or support staff for young players that they do now. The coaching staff was not as detail oriented about player development, recovery, and physical load management. They may have reached out, but they weren't as buttoned up as they are now with player development. I don't want to make it sound like his career trajectory was the sole fault of the Bills either, ultimately it was up to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: During his tenure the Bills did not have the culture or support staff for young players that they do now. The coaching staff was not as detail oriented about player development, recovery, and physical load management. They may have reached out, but they weren't as buttoned up as they are now with player development. I don't want to make it sound like his career trajectory was the sole fault of the Bills either, ultimately it was up to him. From what we know, I can't disagree with you that the Bills seem to have a better organization now, but there's a lot of space between "didn't have then what we have now" and "failed to get him the support network he needed". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I don’t think Sammy should be banished to the group of exiled Bills alumni (like McGahee or OJ). He was obviously immature, but had bad injury luck as well. I have trouble getting worked up about it, because we stunk during those years and he could have been the second coming of Jerry Rice and it wouldn’t have made us not stink anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Prove it, Sammy. Go to a Bills playoff home game in January and take off your shirt. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 18 hours ago, Big Turk said: Imagine if he could have gotten his act together and played with Josh? He has played with Mahomes, Lamar, and Rodgers and has never had a breakout season. What makes you think Allen is the X factor to bring that out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: He has played with Mahomes, Lamar, and Rodgers and has never had a breakout season. What makes you think Allen is the X factor to bring that out He never got his act together. If he had, he would still be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Sammy can come back when Rex comes back........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I used to be angry at the whole Sammy thing, but the more I watch and hear him I kind of feel sad tbh. Yes, he's rich and famous and everything that goes with that, and we shouldn't feel sorry the rich and famous and blah blah blah. But this guy just seems off. Idk if it's just the pressure and reality of missed expectations, or what other stuff is going on in his life, but he just seems like a shell of a person. IDK, the guy comes across as sad or worse all the time. You couldn't pay me to trade places with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 He seems to look quite a bit bigger than I remember when seeing his interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Past performance and attitude aside, I remember him saying that the Bills were his favorite team growing up. Maybe that was just draft puff-piece material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: He is a WR and liked Moulds and peerless price Moulds was probably only rivaled physically by TO and randy moss in his era … he was a beast I want the Bills to sign him to this day. Just throw him 1 six yard pass!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 You can blame Sammy, you can blame Whaley, but as always, best to blame Ralph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, boyst said: I want the Bills to sign him to this day. Just throw him 1 six yard pass!!!! Get him 10k!! tragedy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Bruffalo said: A lot of hate here for a guy who clearly didn't have it all put together during his time in Buffalo and the Bills failed to get him the support network he needed. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered but I'm not gonna hate on a guy for liking Buffalo. Wish it worked out better but it is what it is. He didn't like it when he was here and he went out of his way to crap on us. Magically he likes it now. F him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: RIP. Loved him in The Descendants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, PonyBoy said: Loved him in The Descendants He was good in everything. Helluvan actor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer8732 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I just remember someone checking on him after each catch to make sure he was alright 🥴 I’ve never seen anything like it. Very odd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Hammy Watchins was a Buffalo bust. 2 number one picks wasted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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