RoyBatty is alive Posted November 4, 2022 Author Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Re: OJ Howard, am I the only one who thinks only those who played a regular season game for the Bills should be considered an ex-Bill? What if we get a player in pre-season and let him go/trade him before theĀ regular season starts, I would consider him an ex bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: What if we get a player in pre-season and let him go/trade him before theĀ regular season starts, I would consider him an ex bill. Ā 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 10:15 AM, Mr. WEO said: Colts need to clean house.Ā Frank has to go... Whatās going on in Indy is not all of Franks fault. Luck retiring really ***** up his plans. Although he shouldāve talked Rivers into playing 1 more year instead of trading for Wentz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Whatās going on in Indy is not all of Franks fault. Luck retiring really ***** up his plans. Although he shouldāve talked Rivers into playing 1 more year instead of trading for Wentz. I think Rivers basically offered to come back another year didnāt he ? Anyway, I agree. Ā The old fart made me sweat that last game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 If OJ Howard was still in Buffalo he would have 4 catches for 16 yards. We don't use TEs much, never have.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Moral victories? Sounds like drought era Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: So then Isiaih Hodges is not an ex bill by your standard. Ā Why? Hodgins played real games for the Bills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: So then Isiaih Hodges is not an ex bill by your standard. Crack much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 50 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: So then Isiaih Hodges is not an ex bill by your standard. Ā 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Ā Why? Hodgins played real games for the Bills. Ā You make a good point though @RoyBatty is alive. I'll modify my statement to those who are either on the 53-man roster or on the practice squad at any point during the regular season. Ā Howard was none of those things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Ā Ā You make a good point though @RoyBatty is alive. I'll modify my statement to those who are either on the 53-man roster or on the practice squad at any point during the regular season. Ā Howard was none of those things. it's a hard rule to draw a line about. i mean, if you were on the 90 man roster, like OJ were you an ex Bill? what if you were named Elizabeth Bill and married a man named John Sawyer. Would you be an ex Bill then? I know I am a Jeff and I was never an ex Bill. I may one day be a Bill but I am not one currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Ford, Epenesa, and Moss are massive busts.Ā Too soon to say about Basham. Every GM misses. Just odd that Benae has missed in the second and third round and has had better success in the later rounds.Ā I think there's enough data to indicate a trend. I gotta theory. Ā These were players with higher floor, lower ceilings, already considered consistent/ polished up. Ā I think Beanes chased the athletic freaks that are a bit more raw in the 1st and then day 3 picks the most. Day 2 has been a lot of boring unsexy picks. We've got a great coaching Staff that's coached these guys up. Ā I say from here out we throw caution to the wind in every round amd swing like McGwire summer '98!!! 37 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Ā Why? Hodgins played real games for the Bills. Even if he hadn't a guy with multiple training camps and PS seasons feels like an ex Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Whatās going on in Indy is not all of Franks fault. Luck retiring really ***** up his plans. Although he shouldāve talked Rivers into playing 1 more year instead of trading for Wentz. Luck has been gone for 4 years. Ā Wentz and Ryan were predictably awful moves. Ā Ā If Frank was part of that decision he needs to go. Ā If he wasnāt and his opinion means nothing to the team, he needs to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 18 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Luck has been gone for 4 years. Ā Wentz and Ryan were predictably awful moves. Ā Ā If Frank was part of that decision he needs to go. Ā If he wasnāt and his opinion means nothing to the team, he needs to go Exactly. First year is a wash. Luck retired during TC. No time to do anything but roll with Brisset. Rivers worked but it was at best a two year solution. Wentz was a gamble but one that could have paid off. Ryan, he was done. Falcons knew it, most NFL fans knew it. Reich still did itĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Exactly. First year is a wash. Luck retired during TC. No time to do anything but roll with Brisset. Rivers worked but it was at best a two year solution. Wentz was a gamble but one that could have paid off. Ryan, he was done. Falcons knew it, most NFL fans knew it. Reich still did itĀ What QB should have they gotten lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, FireChans said: What QB should have they gotten lol Ā Ā Might as well have suited up Cam Newton lol. Ā As it is, the Colts are spending 42 miilion (15 for Wentz's hit and the rest for Ryan) this year to have Sam Ehlinger as their chosen starter midway through the season.Ā Might as well have kept Wentz.Ā Ā Ā These are dumbass decisions.Ā Frank's been there for all of them.Ā He's deadwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, FireChans said: What QB should have they gotten lol Maybe draft one over the last 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 20 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Luck has been gone for 4 years. Ā Wentz and Ryan were predictably awful moves. Ā Ā If Frank was part of that decision he needs to go. Ā If he wasnāt and his opinion means nothing to the team, he needs to go At the end of the 2020 season, the Colts had a really strong roster; the only reason the Bills beat them in the wildcard game is that we had Josh Allen and they had Philip Rivers (even though Rivers played well in that game). Their decline can be traced directly to giving up a first round draft pick for Carson Wentz, who was literally the worst starting QB in the league in 2020. Ā The Ryan deal was not as bad, but still more of the same. Ā And yes, Reich absolutely deserves a lot of the blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Luck has been gone for 4 years. Ā Wentz and Ryan were predictably awful moves. Ā Ā If Frank was part of that decision he needs to go. Ā If he wasnāt and his opinion means nothing to the team, he needs to go Ā Yea. Frank is a big part of the issue. Forget the QB decisions (which we know he had a major hand in for a moment) and look how many games they lose to teams with less talent than them. It's way too many. Good guy. Great OC and not an awful Head Coach. But 5 seasons, no division titles, 2 playoff appearances, one playoff win (his first year). Unless they recover enough to make the playoffs this year he should be out.Ā Ā EDIT: the only argument I can see for keeping him is that the talent pool of assistant coaches you could promote is so hollowed out. I mean Sean Payton is out there but he can't fill 5 or 6 openings! I wonder if Jim Harbaugh might fancy the Colts job? Edited November 5, 2022 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 This thread: Ā I dumped my ex but now she went to the gym & looks good, then bought a new car. Ā ... As I sit with my new girl, comfortablyĀ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, FireChans said: What QB should have they gotten lol Instead of Ryan? Draft one or roll with Wentz for another year while drafting another option. Ryan is was never a good option and to give up a 3rd for him to play 8 games is a horrible, predictable decisionĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 4 hours ago, mannc said: At the end of the 2020 season, the Colts had a really strong roster; the only reason the Bills beat them in the wildcard game is that we had Josh Allen and they had Philip Rivers (even though Rivers played well in that game). Their decline can be traced directly to giving up a first round draft pick for Carson Wentz, who was literally the worst starting QB in the league in 2020. Ā The Ryan deal was not as bad, but still more of the same. Ā And yes, Reich absolutely deserves a lot of the blame. Ā Their decline can be traced directly to giving up the 18th pick........So they could have taken Pickett?Ā Yeah, that wasn't it... Ā The Ryan deal was awful.Ā They are paying him to be the 3rd string QB in his first season of the deal.Ā Sooooo dumb. Ā Pittman and Taylor are a decent 1/2 punch, but even with Rivers having a solid season (as good as Luck was likely to have), they couldn't beat an imperfect Bills team.Ā The Colts weren't going anywhere interesting no matter what.Ā Ā The need to clean house.Ā That's a moribund franchise. Ā 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Ā Yea. Frank is a big part of the issue. Forget the QB decisions (which we know he had a major hand in for a moment) and look how many games they lose to teams with less talent than them. It's way too many. Good guy. Great OC and not an awful Head Coach. But 5 seasons, no division titles, 2 playoff appearances, one playoff win (his first year). Unless they recover enough to make the playoffs this year he should be out.Ā Ā EDIT: the only argument I can see for keeping him is that the talent pool of assistant coaches you could promote is so hollowed out. I mean Sean Payton is out there but he can't fill 5 or 6 openings! I wonder if Jim Harbaugh might fancy the Colts job? Ā I don't see Payton going there with that QB situation.Ā Ā Ditto Harbaugh---unless he plans on suiting up at QB... Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Call me crazy but I wouldnāt mind seeing Jerry Hughes come back on a much reduced contract in the future to mix into the rotation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 11 hours ago, CoudyBills said: Maybe draft one over the last 3 years. Which one? Ā 10 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Instead of Ryan? Draft one or roll with Wentz for another year while drafting another option. Ryan is was never a good option and to give up a 3rd for him to play 8 games is a horrible, predictable decisionĀ Which one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 9 hours ago, FireChans said: Which one? Ā Which one Not my job.Ā It was their job, and the reason they'll be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, CoudyBills said: Not my job.Ā It was their job, and the reason they'll be fired. Yeah if I was them, I would say, āwe could have drafted Jalen Hurts three years ago but we just traded for Rivers. Every other QB has also sucked that was available. Thank you.ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yeah if I was them, I would say, āwe could have drafted Jalen Hurts three years ago but we just traded for Rivers. Every other QB has also sucked that was available. Thank you.ā Theyād laugh at you and youād still be fired. Ā But at least you got that final haymaker in thereā¦. Theyād be reeling from that one. Ā š¤£Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: Theyād laugh at you and youād still be fired. Ā But at least you got that final haymaker in thereā¦. Theyād be reeling from that one. Ā š¤£Ā Sorry did you have a QB they should have taken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Sorry did you have a QB they should have taken? What a position you've setup for yourself.Ā This is a stupid argument.Ā You get to use hindsight to justify your position.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Sorry did you have a QB they should have taken? Jalen Hurts. Ā What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 How did this thread about 2 ex Bills playing for the Texans become about Reich and Indi's QB situation lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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