Trump stole top secret nuclear docs - greatest security risk in US history - MORE TAPES!!!

[Tiberius]

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...Saul Alinsky would be proud of his disciples..

 

Rules for radicals

 

Rule 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) 

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 As Communist International General Secretary Georgi Dimitroff told the Seventh World Congress of the Comintern in 1935:

 

     “Comrades, you remember the ancient tale of the capture of Troy. Troy was inaccessible to the armies attacking her, thanks to her impregnable walls. And the attacking army, after suffering many sacrifices, was unable to achieve victory until, with the aid of the famous Trojan horse, it managed to penetrate to the very heart of the enemy’s camp.”

Why am I not on that list??? 😩

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...Saul Alinsky would be proud of his disciples..

 

Rules for radicals

 

Rule 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) 

========================================================================================================

 

 

 As Communist International General Secretary Georgi Dimitroff told the Seventh World Congress of the Comintern in 1935:

 

     “Comrades, you remember the ancient tale of the capture of Troy. Troy was inaccessible to the armies attacking her, thanks to her impregnable walls. And the attacking army, after suffering many sacrifices, was unable to achieve victory until, with the aid of the famous Trojan horse, it managed to penetrate to the very heart of the enemy’s camp.”

 

The fun thing about a book of strategy is anyone can read it, and anyone can use it.

 

Like how Erwin Rommel wrote Infantry Attacks, and then George Patton read it and used it to beat him.

 

Since you've read Saul Alinsky, and can quote from it, why aren't you telling us how to beat Saul Alinsky's tactics? Wouldn't that actually help the country out? 

[aristocrat]

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

On 8/13/2022 at 10:28 AM, Wacka said:

You've already injected a whole gallon into your brain. You're  brainwashed. 

 

I doubt you see the irony in posting this even as you stand on your head defending this idiot for the thousandth time.  You will just blindly believe the right's often insane explanations and not question anything.   

 

Maybe the former president doesn't go down for this but man am I glad he's no longer holding top secret info.  

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

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[Albwan]

6 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

The fun thing about a book of strategy is anyone can read it, and anyone can use it.

 

Like how Erwin Rommel wrote Infantry Attacks, and then George Patton read it and used it to beat him.

 

Since you've read Saul Alinsky, and can quote from it, why aren't you telling us how to beat Saul Alinsky's tactics? Wouldn't that actually help the country out? 

I'm not a scum bag democrat so I wouldn't know...not interested in communism or socialism

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, Albwan said:

I'm not a scum bag democrat so I wouldn't know...not interested in communism or socialism

Apparently it is just facism that intrigues you. 

[BillStime]

 

[Kemp]

It's great when Trump's attorney disagrees with Trump, but even better when multiple Trump statements conflict with other statements he's made.

Best of all is watching his cult members backing Trump's statements and then being forced to abandon their positions when Trump switches explanations.

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Kemp said:

It's great when Trump's attorney disagrees with Trump, but even better when multiple Trump statements conflict with other statements he's made.

Best of all is watching his cult members backing Trump's statements and then being forced to abandon their positions when Trump switches explanations.

 

 

[TSOL]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

 

You talk about him like he is still president, weirdo 

[All_Pro_Bills]

17 minutes ago, Kemp said:

It's great when Trump's attorney disagrees with Trump, but even better when multiple Trump statements conflict with other statements he's made.

Best of all is watching his cult members backing Trump's statements and then being forced to abandon their positions when Trump switches explanations.

Sorry to burst your bubble but you're going to be disappointed when all of this results in no charges for anything.  The President can declassify anything he chooses.  Without permission or concurrence from anyone.  Believe it or not, archive clerks cannot veto the President's classification actions.  If he says they're de-classified, then they're declassified.  Even assuming some or all are not declassified he didn't pack the boxes himself.   And assuming some are not they would need to prove Trump knew they were not declassified but obstructed the reclamation of those documents.  There's no evidence of that released or discussed by DOJ to this point. 

And the DOJ/FBI has previously established a very high threshold of intent and purpose is required to seek any conviction.  One notable case when they let Hillary skate free and clear when it was obvious, she broke the law by hosting an unsecure and illegal home server set up that exposed State Department confidential and secret e-mails and electronic records to hackers.  Go back and review Comey's statement.  

Edited August 14, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[Wacka]

Breaking news: NYT gets copy pf nuclear secret!

 

Be sure to drink your Ovaltine!

[BillsFanNC]

42 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Sorry to burst your bubble but you're going to be disappointed when all of this results in no charges for anything.  The President can declassify anything he chooses.  Without permission or concurrence from anyone.  Believe it or not, archive clerks cannot veto the President's classification actions.  If he says they're de-classified, then they're declassified.  Even assuming some or all are not declassified he didn't pack the boxes himself.   And assuming some are not they would need to prove Trump knew they were not declassified but obstructed the reclamation of those documents.  There's no evidence of that released or discussed by DOJ to this point. 

And the DOJ/FBI has previously established a very high threshold of intent and purpose is required to seek any conviction.  One notable case when they let Hillary skate free and clear when it was obvious, she broke the law by hosting an unsecure and illegal home server set up that exposed State Department confidential and secret e-mails and electronic records to hackers.  Go back and review Comey's statement.  

 

All of the above is true of course but I disagree with your first point.

 

Trump will be indicted.

 

Despite all the above they absolutely will indict him. After six years of this nonsense how can it end otherwise? Precedent and constitution be damned.

 

Get ready for the constitutional crisis. Brought to you by the show me the man and ill show you the crime crew.

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 hour ago, Kemp said:

It's great when Trump's attorney disagrees with Trump, but even better when multiple Trump statements conflict with other statements he's made.

Best of all is watching his cult members backing Trump's statements and then being forced to abandon their positions when Trump switches explanations.

Oh the cult members won't even acknowledge the absurdity.   It's hard to see anything when your head is up a con man's a$$.

 

How many have brought up Hillary and Hunter this week?  These people are lost.  

Edited August 15, 2022 by L Ron Burgundy
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[Doc]

53 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

All of the above is true of course but I disagree with your first point.

 

Trump will be indicted.

 

Despite all the above they absolutely will indict him. After six years of this nonsense how can it end otherwise? Precedent and constitution be damned.

 

Get ready for the constitutional crisis. Brought to you by the show me the man and ill show you the crime crew.

 

I disagree with your disagreement.  But we'll see.  They can't help continuing to set their cultists up for disappointment.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Doc

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, DRsGhost said:

Precedent and constitution be damned.

 

 

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

I disagree with your disagreement.  But we'll see.  They can't help continuing to set their cultists up for disappointment.

Yup, the cult of functioning democracy,  you are 100% right.  

[BillStime]

Idiots 
 

 

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, DRsGhost said:

 

All of the above is true of course but I disagree with your first point.

 

Trump will be indicted.

 

Despite all the above they absolutely will indict him. After six years of this nonsense how can it end otherwise? Precedent and constitution be damned.

 

Get ready for the constitutional crisis. Brought to you by the show me the man and ill show you the crime crew.

No he won't.  He's the Dems best chance to win in 2024.

[BillsFanNC]

7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

No he won't.  He's the Dems best chance to win in 2024.

 

He absolutely will and can still run despite being indicted or convicted.

 

 

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

 

He absolutely will and can still run despite being indicted or convicted.

 

 

Trump will never see the inside of the WH again

[TH3]

11 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

 

He absolutely will and can still run despite being indicted or convicted.

 

 

LOL In what dreamland do you Trumptards live in? Tell us how he could win again - What percentage of the people who voted against him are going to look at his post office tenure  and think to themselves..."You know.... I voted against him in 2020...but all he has done since then has changed my mind...in fact...how cool would it be voting for a felon" 

 

Actual Republicans know he has no chance....but you go guy!

[Irv]

35 minutes ago, TH3 said:

LOL In what dreamland do you Trumptards live in? Tell us how he could win again - What percentage of the people who voted against him are going to look at his post office tenure  and think to themselves..."You know.... I voted against him in 2020...but all he has done since then has changed my mind...in fact...how cool would it be voting for a felon" 

 

Actual Republicans know he has no chance....but you go guy!

After the Demented Biden ***** disaster, it’s a given Trump will run and win.   Demented Biden looks worse than Case Keenum on third and long.  What a mess.  

[Doc]

9 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

No he won't.  He's the Dems best chance to win in 2024.

 

The Dems have no chance in 2024.  The majority of the country doesn't want the leftward turn the Dems have taken.  And when they shove Kammy aside, presumably for a white guy like Newsome, the Repub nominee will ask where is she and turn off POC.

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

LOL In what dreamland do you Trumptards live in? Tell us how he could win again - What percentage of the people who voted against him are going to look at his post office tenure  and think to themselves..."You know.... I voted against him in 2020...but all he has done since then has changed my mind...in fact...how cool would it be voting for a felon" 

 

Actual Republicans know he has no chance....but you go guy!

You're conclusions are illogical.  Because if Democrats and the Washington establishment truly believed Trump has no chance in 2024 they wouldn't be doing everything possible to disqualify him from 2024 the race.  Truth is they're afraid and crapping their shorts over the possibility of him making their lives miserable again.  If there's no worries let the guy, and even help him out, get the nomination and then go to the general election confident he's got no chance to defeat whatever mediocre candidate the Democrats put out there.  

[TH3]

56 minutes ago, Irv said:

After the Demented Biden ***** disaster, it’s a given Trump will run and win.   Demented Biden looks worse than Case Keenum on third and long.  What a mess.  

 

24 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The Dems have no chance in 2024.  The majority of the country doesn't want the leftward turn the Dems have taken.  And when they shove Kammy aside, presumably for a white guy like Newsome, the Repub nominee will ask where is she and turn off POC.

 

7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

You're conclusions are illogical.  Because if Democrats and the Washington establishment truly believed Trump has no chance in 2024 they wouldn't be doing everything possible to disqualify him from 2024 the race.  Truth is they're afraid and crapping their shorts over the possibility of him making their lives miserable again.  If there's no worries let the guy, and even help him out, get the nomination and then go to the general election confident he's got no chance to defeat whatever mediocre candidate the Democrats put out there.  

hey brainwasheds - your standard talking points didn't respond to my point. 81 million voted for Biden - please tell me which portion of those are going to reconsider after 4 more years of the orange menace being a traitor and change their vote? 

 

I mean the allure of you cementheads taking up arms against law enforement is pretty cool and everything...but until you actually kill some of those FBI guys....I am still voting blue....and FWIW i voted straight R for decades....

[SoCal Deek]

3 minutes ago, TH3 said:

 

 

hey brainwasheds - your standard talking points didn't respond to my point. 81 million voted for Biden - please tell me which portion of those are going to reconsider after 4 more years of the orange menace being a traitor and change their vote? 

 

I mean the allure of you cementheads taking up arms against law enforement is pretty cool and everything...but until you actually kill some of those FBI guys....I am still voting blue....and FWIW i voted straight R for decades....

All valid points. But the points can be made without the name calling. My take: It’s way way way too early for anyone to make predictions about the 2024 election. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

13 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

You're conclusions are illogical.  Because if Democrats and the Washington establishment truly believed Trump has no chance in 2024 they wouldn't be doing everything possible to disqualify him from 2024 the race.  Truth is they're afraid and crapping their shorts over the possibility of him making their lives miserable again.  If there's no worries let the guy, and even help him out, get the nomination and then go to the general election confident he's got no chance to defeat whatever mediocre candidate the Democrats put out there.  

Trump won’t be running against just the Dems though, and traditional R politicians ready for a return to the good ole days add to the already formidable challenge.  When Biden was elected, in the halls of Washington what really changed for people like McConnell, Graham etc?   Did they launch any sort 
 

1/6 and the drumbeat of insurrection will be an issue for those people who liked his policies but not his style. True, he’s picked up support along the way, but enough to move the needle?  
 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 minute ago, TH3 said:

 

 

hey brainwasheds - your standard talking points didn't respond to my point. 81 million voted for Biden - please tell me which portion of those are going to reconsider after 4 more years of the orange menace being a traitor and change their vote? 

 

I mean the allure of you cementheads taking up arms against law enforement is pretty cool and everything...but until you actually kill some of those FBI guys....I am still voting blue....and FWIW i voted straight R for decades....

Well I've voted straight democrat for decades before the party turned rogue.  I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 or 2020 but he isn't a traitor.  But if you're comfortable with our government stealing more and more of our freedoms until we have none then keep up your support.  And law enforcement?  They're supposed to investigate crimes and identify people the committed them.  What they're doing here is targeting individuals and searching for a crime to attach to them.  Targeting people for political reasons. You're a chump for not being able to comprehend it and for going along with it.  Fortunately for these authoritarian sociopaths there are a lot of mentally slow chumps out there.   

9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Trump won’t be running against just the Dems though, and traditional R politicians ready for a return to the good ole days add to the already formidable challenge.  When Biden was elected, in the halls of Washington what really changed for people like McConnell, Graham etc?   Did they launch any sort 
 

1/6 and the drumbeat of insurrection will be an issue for those people who liked his policies but not his style. True, he’s picked up support along the way, but enough to move the needle?  
 

 

McConnell and Graham are establishment players that do the bidding of the Empire.  They just went along with Trump as long it was politically advantageous for them to do so.  It is no longer advantageous.   

[BillStime]

21 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Well I've voted straight democrat for decades before the party turned rogue.  I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 or 2020 but he isn't a traitor.  But if you're comfortable with our government stealing more and more of our freedoms until we have none then keep up your support.  And law enforcement?  They're supposed to investigate crimes and identify people the committed them.  What they're doing here is targeting individuals and searching for a crime to attach to them.  Targeting people for political reasons. You're a chump for not being able to comprehend it and for going along with it.  Fortunately for these authoritarian sociopaths there are a lot of mentally slow chumps out there.   

McConnell and Graham are establishment players that do the bidding of the Empire.  They just went along with Trump as long it was politically advantageous for them to do so.  It is no longer advantageous.   

Which freedoms did the DEMs steal from you?

 

Please elaborate.

[All_Pro_Bills]

17 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Which freedoms did the DEMs steal from you?

 

Please elaborate.

I didn't say the "democrats" are stealing freedom.   

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/sperry-fbi-agents-involved-trump-raid-criminal-investigation-durham-abusing-power-trump-russia-probe/

 

Was the raid a CYA operation?

Edited August 15, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I didn't say the "democrats" are stealing freedom.   

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/sperry-fbi-agents-involved-trump-raid-criminal-investigation-durham-abusing-power-trump-russia-probe/

 

Was the raid a CYA operation?

Did Trump win the 2020 election? 

[BillsFanNC]

There are certainly delusional takes on both sides regarding a Trump 2024 run.

 

None however hold a candle to the the delusion required to truly believe that Joe Biden got 81 million legitimate votes in 2020 or that he or anyone else could come anywhere close to that again in an election where we go back to traditional voting.

[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I didn't say the "democrats" are stealing freedom.   

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/sperry-fbi-agents-involved-trump-raid-criminal-investigation-durham-abusing-power-trump-russia-probe/

 

Was the raid a CYA operation?

 

No. Trump stole classified documents; his lawyers signed a statement claiming there were no classified documents at ped-a-largo... and as it turned out - once again; Trump lied and MAGA people died.

 

And the gateway pundit... lmao:

 

[Westside]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

 

 

hey brainwasheds - your standard talking points didn't respond to my point. 81 million voted for Biden - please tell me which portion of those are going to reconsider after 4 more years of the orange menace being a traitor and change their vote? 

 

I mean the allure of you cementheads taking up arms against law enforement is pretty cool and everything...but until you actually kill some of those FBI guys....I am still voting blue....and FWIW i voted straight R for decades....

You’re a clown if you think 81 million people voted for that senile old crook.

 

Hunter Biden, the smartest man I’ve ever known! 😂😂😂😂

11 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

No. Trump stole classified documents; his lawyers signed a statement claiming there were no classified documents at ped-a-largo... and as it turned out - once again; Trump lied and MAGA people died.

 

And the gateway pundit... lmao:

 

Who died? 

[All_Pro_Bills]

6 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

No. Trump stole classified documents; his lawyers signed a statement claiming there were no classified documents at ped-a-largo... and as it turned out - once again; Trump lied and MAGA people died.

 

And the gateway pundit... lmao:

 

How do you know the government's not lying? 

[BillStime]

 

 

4 minutes ago, Westside said:

Who died? 

Just another MAGA Maniac’ Who Attacked Cincinnati FBI Office Was Ready for ‘War’

 

Ricky Walter Shiffer, the Ohio man who attempted to storm an FBI field office, appears to be fueled by MAGA paranoia

[Westside]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

 

Just another MAGA Maniac’ Who Attacked Cincinnati FBI Office Was Ready for ‘War’

 

Ricky Walter Shiffer, the Ohio man who attempted to storm an FBI field office, appears to be fueled by MAGA paranoia

This guy has some mental illness going on. He stands with the right like those no gender freaks stand for the left. 

[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, Westside said:

This guy has some mental illness going on. He stands with the right like those no gender freaks stand for the left. 

 

You asked.

I answered.