Shady puts Bienemy on blast as to why he never gets hired as a Head Coach

[thenorthremembers]

Bad legal background and limited play calling at the NFL level.  

[stuvian]

If Bienemy hasn't landed a HC job by now, there's a non-racial reason for it. 

 

I respect McCoy for how he acquitted himself as a Bill. He left everything he had on the field and I suspect he did the same at his post Buffalo stops. McCoy wouldn't diss an African American coach for nothing.

[TC in St. Louis]

I think the reason KC has been successful is Andy Reid.  And, of course, Patrick Mahomes.  I don't know what Bienemy does, but it seems that he is in the right place to do whatever that is.  

 

We don't know what was discussed before Shady said those things.  What led to his mini-outburst of his truth.  However, the fact remains that Bienemy has yet to be hired elsewhere.

[DaggersEOD]

20 hours ago, Gugny said:

Not a great look for Shady.  Not doubting that he's telling the truth, though.

Yeah we can’t get away from the “everyone is racist” narrative. If he’s just a jerk, how are all those special interest groups going to feed their kids!

 

Think of the children!!

[DCofNC]

As many times as he’s interviewed and NOT been hired, something is up.  Where there’s smoke there’s fire or Marcel Dareus.

[RoyBatty is alive]

20 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

"he talks to them a certain way and some players would take it. I wouldn’t take it. “

 

wow---Bombshell!!!  lol.  That's it?  This is all he's got?

 

Such BS from a guy the Chiefs dumped to the curb in the playoffs.  He always about himself.

 

Who cares what this clown has to say at this point?

I care what he has to say and he is no "clown". 

 

Every year the why isnt Bienemy HC comes up and this is certainly a very plausible response.  It isnt the old NFL where the HC we a demigod.

[Tanoros]

19 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

He's been a hood ornament SB winners for a couple of years. So what?  Reid humiliated him by not even dressing him for the final playoff game.  Arians wouldn't put him in the playoffs the next season either.

 

He's delusional regarding his value.

 

 

 

I have no info on him.  I assumed the obvious:  he doesn't get hired because every GM knows he doesn't run that Offense.  So why would they want him as HC?  And why would McCoy bring it up 2 years later? 

 

 

 

 

What did he divulge--that's his quote: "he talks to them in a certain way"...no elaboration nor has he since this comment blew up on twitter.

 

He's bitter, no other explanation makes sense for this outburst.

You know it is possible for him to be both bitter and telling the truth. As another poster said, we have all run into those people who are intelligent, but can’t read a room to save their life. People like this project different personas like quiet and passive, or aggressive and loud (like a bull in a china shop), really awkward, etc. We’ve all seen it from time to time. 
 

it’s very clear Bieniemy isn’t getting a job for more reasons than simply not being considered the architect of KC’s offense.  Think about the info about Bieniemy from the Chiefs world (the one that was redacted). Even though it was redacted, where there’s smoke there is fire, and Shady’s comment just adds more smoke (not proof, but info that it may be true). 
 

If he really is the type that has some sort of communication issue, I’m sure it’s obvious to the interviewers during the coach hiring process, and more often than not, those traits are going to hurt being in a head coach position. 
 

In the end, we don’t know. But Shady worked with him, interacted with him, so he is going to know better than any of us, and he alluded to Bieniemy having some sort of communication issue. We also know he hasn’t been able to land a head coaching job. At this point, it’s hard to discount that there might be to this than him simply working with Andy Reid as an O coordinator. 

[Mr. WEO]

29 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I care what he has to say and he is no "clown". 

 

Every year the why isnt Bienemy HC comes up and this is certainly a very plausible response.  It isnt the old NFL where the HC we a demigod.

 

McCoy brought this up unprompted.  I's been two years and he drops this at the end of some radio show. 

 

Why do you care what he says?

 

29 minutes ago, Tanoros said:

You know it is possible for him to be both bitter and telling the truth. As another poster said, we have all run into those people who are intelligent, but can’t read a room to save their life. People like this project different personas like quiet and passive, or aggressive and loud (like a bull in a china shop), really awkward, etc. We’ve all seen it from time to time. 
 

it’s very clear Bieniemy isn’t getting a job for more reasons than simply not being considered the architect of KC’s offense.  Think about the info about Bieniemy from the Chiefs world (the one that was redacted). Even though it was redacted, where there’s smoke there is fire, and Shady’s comment just adds more smoke (not proof, but info that it may be true). 
 

If he really is the type that has some sort of communication issue, I’m sure it’s obvious to the interviewers during the coach hiring process, and more often than not, those traits are going to hurt being in a head coach position. 
 

In the end, we don’t know. But Shady worked with him, interacted with him, so he is going to know better than any of us, and he alluded to Bieniemy having some sort of communication issue. We also know he hasn’t been able to land a head coaching job. At this point, it’s hard to discount that there might be to this than him simply working with Andy Reid as an O coordinator. 

 

Let's recall what McCoy is claiming he knows for a fact--that Bienemy isn't getting hired because he talks poorly to some players.

 

How does he know why GM's/owners aren't hiring Bienemy?  Who told him this is the reason?  He should follow up his comment by telling us how he came to know this is why.

[RoyBatty is alive]

20 hours ago, wppete said:

They have been saying this about Bienamy for a long time. They say he is not a good person, just look at his arrest history, pretty disgusting. McCoy seems legit to me. 

Just read his arrest history, I had no idea (assuming Wikipedia is somewhat legit).  I would assert that alone might be enough for any team to not want him as HC.

[Tanoros]

11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

McCoy brought this up unprompted.  I's been two years and he drops this at the end of some radio show. 

 

Why do you care what he says?

 

 

Let's recall what McCoy is claiming he knows for a fact--that Bienemy isn't getting hired because he talks poorly to some players.

 

How does he know why GM's/owners aren't hiring Bienemy?  Who told him this is the reason?  He should follow up his comment by telling us how he came to know this is why.

It’s pretty obvious McCoy is speculating why based off of personal experience. In addition, would it be unreasonable to suspect he may have heard some information either first, second, or third hand about reasons a team or two didn’t hire him? Bienemy has interviewed a lot and McCoy’s been around the league enough to have many league wide contacts. 
 

I don’t know why you are on such a crusade here. It’s not without reason to assume McCoy might know a little bit more than any of us. That being the case, his comment can’t simply be dismissed by a reasonable person. 

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Tanoros said:

It’s pretty obvious McCoy is speculating why based off of personal experience. In addition, would it be unreasonable to suspect he may have heard some information either first, second, or third hand about reasons a team or two didn’t hire him? Bienemy has interviewed a lot and McCoy’s been around the league enough to have many league wide contacts. 
 

I don’t know why you are on such a crusade here. It’s not without reason to assume McCoy might know a little bit more than any of us. That being the case, his comment can’t simply be dismissed by a reasonable person. 

 

You haven't been here long, so...

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Tanoros said:

It’s pretty obvious McCoy is speculating why based off of personal experience. In addition, would it be unreasonable to suspect he may have heard some information either first, second, or third hand about reasons a team or two didn’t hire him? Bienemy has interviewed a lot and McCoy’s been around the league enough to have many league wide contacts. 
 

I don’t know why you are on such a crusade here. It’s not without reason to assume McCoy might know a little bit more than any of us. That being the case, his comment can’t simply be dismissed by a reasonable person. 

 

 

Then he should say so.  He has not.  

 

I believe Bienemy is likely an a-hole.  But to drop this on a radio show with no other explanation...2 years after the Chiefs tabled him in the playoffs---it certainly seems odd he would feel compelled to bring this up.  And McCoy is about McCoy--that doesn't make him unique.

[Udubalum07]

Coming from Colorado, and I follow the program closely, this doesn't surprise me at all. His last stint of actually calling plays was when he was the OC there. Their offense was terrible and very unorganized.

 

Many false start and alignment issues, the team lacked talent, but was also not well coached. They only lasted two years, he probably has leaned a lot since those years from Reid, but these comments are very similar to what was said at Colorado as well from a personality standpoint.

[wppete]

2 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Just read his arrest history, I had no idea (assuming Wikipedia is somewhat legit).  I would assert that alone might be enough for any team to not want him as HC.

Very true. It’s actually worse than what Wikipedia is reporting. No team would hire this guy a s a Head Coach and face and spokesperson of the franchise. 

[FilthyBeast]

On 5/26/2022 at 11:33 AM, Big Turk said:

Said it has to do with the type of coach he is and intimated he talks down to people and doesn't treat them respectfully.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lesean-mccoy-claims-knows-why-175714857.html

 

Or people just realize he has nothing much to do with an offense in which Patrick Mahomes is your QB and Reid is the real OC and brains behind the operation.

[Buffalo Junction]

4 hours ago, Udubalum07 said:

Coming from Colorado, and I follow the program closely, this doesn't surprise me at all. His last stint of actually calling plays was when he was the OC there. Their offense was terrible and very unorganized.

 

Many false start and alignment issues, the team lacked talent, but was also not well coached. They only lasted two years, he probably has leaned a lot since those years from Reid, but these comments are very similar to what was said at Colorado as well from a personality standpoint.

Didn’t he lose that position after a second DUI and a recruiting scandal?

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, wppete said:

Very true. It’s actually worse than what Wikipedia is reporting. No team would hire this guy a s a Head Coach and face and spokesperson of the franchise. 

 

21 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Or people just realize he has nothing much to do with an offense in which Patrick Mahomes is your QB and Reid is the real OC and brains behind the operation.

 

 

Nope!  It's because he was mean to "Shady"...

[wppete]

16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

 

Nope!  It's because he was mean to "Shady"...

A long rap sheet and crime never pays. 

[chris heff]

7 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I care what he has to say and he is no "clown". 

 

Every year the why isnt Bienemy HC comes up and this is certainly a very plausible response.  It isnt the old NFL where the HC we a demigod.

Yeah McCoy is a swell guy except for the “party bus” incident, the fight with cops in a strip club and the not so coincidental ex-girl friend that wouldn’t get out of a house he owned in Atlanta getting beat up and robbed. Who among us hasn’t had those types of transgressions?

[Udubalum07]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Didn’t he lose that position after a second DUI and a recruiting scandal?

No, the head coach was fired, and the whole staff was not retained. The DUIs were earlier in his coaching career.

[Rico]

Bottom line: 

Shady is an ex-Bill, still beloved by many 

WHILE

Bienemy is a Chief… so ***** him.

[Doc]

2 hours ago, chris heff said:

Yeah McCoy is a swell guy except for the “party bus” incident, the fight with cops in a strip club and the not so coincidental ex-girl friend that wouldn’t get out of a house he owned in Atlanta getting beat up and robbed. Who among us hasn’t had those types of transgressions?

 

Have you ever defended a friend who was getting beaten up by someone?  As for the girlfriend incident, I guess Shady's a criminal mastermind but likely not.  But yes, he's not a swell guy for the party bus incident.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Udubalum07 said:

No, the head coach was fired, and the whole staff was not retained. The DUIs were earlier in his coaching career.

I remember reading something about his team getting arrested more than average and him failing to report some sexual harassment incident.

I'm a bit hazy on the specifics but it was a few years ago in an article about why he still hadn't landed a hc job

[chris heff]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Have you ever defended a friend who was getting beaten up by someone?  As for the girlfriend incident, I guess Shady's a criminal mastermind but likely not.  But yes, he's not a swell guy for the party bus incident.

No I have not, because I had the good sense to stay out off situations where anyone was getting beaten. If you think that the girl friend incident is a coincidence I have a bridge to sell you.

[Doc]

9 hours ago, chris heff said:

No I have not, because I had the good sense to stay out off situations where anyone was getting beaten. If you think that the girl friend incident is a coincidence I have a bridge to sell you.

 

Keep your bridge.  It was investigated and nothing was found against Shady.  I liked him as a player and entertainer, but a criminal mastermind/genius he is not.

 

As for the club fight, I don't go to them but I figure fights don't normally break out in places where they have bottle service.  And you'd think that cops would have better sense that to fight anywhere, much less in a club.

[Mr. WEO]

11 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Have you ever defended a friend who was getting beaten up by someone?  As for the girlfriend incident, I guess Shady's a criminal mastermind but likely not.  But yes, he's not a swell guy for the party bus incident.

 

We all "defend a friend" by waiting until the assailant is coweing on on his back---then jumping in as the 3rd or 4th guy to stomp him!

 

All kidding aside, that's a fabrication doc, you know it.  The civil case went to arbitration and the arbitrator found no basis for a  "self-defense" claim by McCoy or his boys.  McCoy had to pay 55K for his actions that night.

 

As for the girlfriend incident, maybe the girlfriend was the "criminal mastermind" because, as you figured, she conspired with her own son to beat her up (and he escaped out the bedroom window!!) and blame McCoy!

 

lol.  "Shady" loves dies so hard....

[Tanoros]

21 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Then he should say so.  He has not.  

 

I believe Bienemy is likely an a-hole.  But to drop this on a radio show with no other explanation...2 years after the Chiefs tabled him in the playoffs---it certainly seems odd he would feel compelled to bring this up.  And McCoy is about McCoy--that doesn't make him unique.

Just because you believe someone should say something a certain way, doesn’t mean they have to say it that specific way. There are so many subtleties in communication, everyone has their own style and flavor. You should never expect someone to communicate a certain way only. 
 

Here’s a question. Would it have been better for McCoy to say something much closer to the event? Does it look worse saying something closer to the event (and possibly more emotional messaging being so close to the event) or saying something a couple years later? 
 

For me personally, I see waiting to say something as the least sour grapes approach. McCoy didn’t come off as overly emotional about it all, and he was very coy about it all. I personally don’t see anything wrong with he how handled this. 

[Doc]

5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

We all "defend a friend" by waiting until the assailant is coweing on on his back---then jumping in as the 3rd or 4th guy to stomp him!

 

All kidding aside, that's a fabrication doc, you know it.  The civil case went to arbitration and the arbitrator found no basis for a  "self-defense" claim by McCoy or his boys.  McCoy had to pay 55K for his actions that night.

 

As for the girlfriend incident, maybe the girlfriend was the "criminal mastermind" because, as you figured, she conspired with her own son to beat her up (and he escaped out the bedroom window!!) and blame McCoy!

 

lol.  "Shady" loves dies so hard....

 

And your Shady hate (spare me) makes you fabricate stuff like the cop (who, of anyone, should know better than to escalate a fight, much less start one) was "cowering" on his back.  He wasn't: he was choking Shady's friend.  But I guess had the cop been prone on a football field and had a braced elbow jammed in the back of his neck, you'd have had less of a problem with it if it had been someone you liked...

 

As for the arbitrator, frivolous lawsuit and deepest pockets.  Sound familiar?  Probably also got a nice "thank you card" from the FOP...

 

Nope, never said she conspired with her son, just that he was the most likely suspect considering he was actually in the immediate area and Shady wasn't.  It certainly didn't require the contortions you went through to make Shady Keyser Soze.

 

4 hours ago, Tanoros said:

Just because you believe someone should say something a certain way, doesn’t mean they have to say it that specific way. There are so many subtleties in communication, everyone has their own style and flavor. You should never expect someone to communicate a certain way only. 
 

Here’s a question. Would it have been better for McCoy to say something much closer to the event? Does it look worse saying something closer to the event (and possibly more emotional messaging being so close to the event) or saying something a couple years later? 
 

For me personally, I see waiting to say something as the least sour grapes approach. McCoy didn’t come off as overly emotional about it all, and he was very coy about it all. I personally don’t see anything wrong with he how handled this. 

 

They typically have a list of topics to prepare for and that's likely why Shady addressed it (publicly) unsolicited.

Edited May 28, 2022 by Doc

[Mr. WEO]

4 hours ago, Tanoros said:

Just because you believe someone should say something a certain way, doesn’t mean they have to say it that specific way. There are so many subtleties in communication, everyone has their own style and flavor. You should never expect someone to communicate a certain way only. 
 

Here’s a question. Would it have been better for McCoy to say something much closer to the event? Does it look worse saying something closer to the event (and possibly more emotional messaging being so close to the event) or saying something a couple years later? 
 

For me personally, I see waiting to say something as the least sour grapes approach. McCoy didn’t come off as overly emotional about it all, and he was very coy about it all. I personally don’t see anything wrong with he how handled this. 

 

 

He said he knew why Bienemy can't get a HC job (because he's mean to some players).  He doesn't back it up with any explanation as to how he "knows" this is the case.  

 

He shouldn't have brought and just let it hang like that---it looks like a hit and nothing else.  He has to back it up with....anything.  He didn't.  That's bush league.

16 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

And your Shady hate (spare me) makes you fabricate stuff like the cop (who, of anyone, should know better than to escalate a fight, much less start one) was "cowering" on his back.  He wasn't: he was choking Shady's friend.  But I guess had the cop been prone on a football field and had a braced elbow jammed in the back of his neck, you'd have had less of a problem with it if it had been someone you liked...

 

As for the arbitrator, frivolous lawsuit and deepest pockets.  Sound familiar?  Probably also got a nice "thank you card" from the FOP...

 

Nope, never said she conspired with her son, just that he was the most likely suspect considering he was actually in the immediate area and Shady wasn't.  It certainly didn't require the contortions you went through to make Shady Keyser Soze.

 

 

They typically have a list of topics to prepare for and that's likely why Shady addressed it (publicly) unsolicited.

 

 

Then it HAD to be him!  He beat up his moms at her direction!  You're a regular Hecule Poirot!

 

No one claimed McCoy was there, doc.

 

The cop was on his back on the ground when The Great Defender put on his stomping shoes and waded in to "help out".  lol

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

Then it HAD to be him!  He beat up his moms at her direction!  You're a regular Hecule Poirot!

 

No one claimed McCoy was there, doc.

 

The cop was on his back on the ground when The Great Defender put on his stomping shoes and waded in to "help out".  lol

 

LOL!  I never claimed it had to be him.  Hence the "more likely."  But they obviously investigated Shady (I would expect they investigated the son as well) and found nothing at all, so, again, unless he's a criminal mastermind...

 

Yep, the cop was on the ground choking his friend.  You should be more outraged at that than the joke of a stomp by Shady.  You're not exactly making your case here...

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  I never claimed it had to be him.  Hence the "more likely."  But they obviously investigated Shady (I would expect they investigated the son as well) and found nothing at all, so, again, unless he's a criminal mastermind...

 

Yep, the cop was on the ground choking his friend.  You should be more outraged at that than the joke of a stomp by Shady.  You're not exactly making your case here...

 

 

So the civil arbitrator was on the take for the cops huh?  That's a new twist you've added!  Pretty wild.  Anyway...I don't care about the cops--they got a beating over a bottle of cheap champagne. Everyone involved in this silliness is a low life, if that makes you feel better.

 

As for the self defense angle you keep propping up--it's false. The DA, who did not press charges against "Shady" and his boy, did reiterate this for us:

 

"McCoy, for his part, argued that he acted in self-defense. William Davis, a district attorney representing Butler, highlighted that, “ [the arbitrator’s] finding [of self-defense] was that that was absolutely untrue,” via ESPN."

 

If you must have heroes to worship, pick ones more worthy of your unquestioning devotion.   

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

So the civil arbitrator was on the take for the cops huh?  That's a new twist you've added!  Pretty wild.  Anyway...I don't care about the cops--they got a beating over a bottle of cheap champagne. Everyone involved in this silliness is a low life, if that makes you feel better.

 

As for the self defense angle you keep propping up--it's false. The DA, who did not press charges against "Shady" and his boy, did reiterate this for us:

 

"McCoy, for his part, argued that he acted in self-defense. William Davis, a district attorney representing Butler, highlighted that, “ [the arbitrator’s] finding [of self-defense] was that that was absolutely untrue,” via ESPN."

 

If you must have heroes to worship, pick ones more worthy of your unquestioning devotion.   

 

Then explain the lack of criminal charges, if you would.  The DA was on the take?

 

Look, it was a bar fight between two idiots (you know, the guys actually on the ground) and Shady was trying to help his friend.  He did nothing to the cop as even you admitted Shady's "defense" was a joke.  It that makes him a "lowlife" to you (no wait, the bus incident does ), well opinions are like...

 

And in the end, I'm just pulling a WEO, offering defenses for people.  Call it hero worship if you like.

[Mr. WEO]

11 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Then explain the lack of criminal charges, if you would.  The DA was on the take?

 

Look, it was a bar fight between two idiots (you know, the guys actually on the ground) and Shady was trying to help his friend.  He did nothing to the cop as even you admitted Shady's "defense" was a joke.  It that makes him a "lowlife" to you (no wait, the bus incident does ), well opinions are like...

 

And in the end, I'm just pulling a WEO, offering defenses for people.  Call it hero worship if you like.

 

Read his explanation doc.  No one can determine accurately who started the fight.  But it's clear there was no "self defense" happening--for McCoy nor Porter.  They weren't defending themselves ("helping his friend").

 

He (waited and then) kicked a guy who was on the ground.  That's your boy, in a nutshell.

[CoudyBills]

On 5/27/2022 at 10:07 PM, Doc said:

 

Have you ever defended a friend who was getting beaten up by someone?  As for the girlfriend incident, I guess Shady's a criminal mastermind but likely not.  But yes, he's not a swell guy for the party bus incident.

I call all of that Friday night...well, not really, but I might if I were 25 and wealthy.  

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

Read his explanation doc.  No one can determine accurately who started the fight.  But it's clear there was no "self defense" happening--for McCoy nor Porter.  They weren't defending themselves ("helping his friend").

 

He (waited and then) kicked a guy who was on the ground.  That's your boy, in a nutshell.

 

Who started the fight doesn't matter as it pertains to Shady.  Porter and the cop were on the ground and obviously Shady was trying to help his friend who was being attacked.  Even you know this but need to make it something it's not for obvious reasons.  But witnesses said the cop started it and had Ported in a headlock on the ground and that's why the DA never charged either of them and the league did nothing to Shady. Try as you might, you just simply cannot get around those facts.

 

Yeah, if someone attacked me, a friend trying to help me would be "my boy."  I take it you'd run in a similar circumstance, but hey, you at least you wouldn't be a "lowlife"...

Edited May 29, 2022 by Doc

[Mr. WEO]

23 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Who started the fight doesn't matter as it pertains to Shady.  Porter and the cop were on the ground and obviously Shady was trying to help his friend who was being attacked.  Even you know this but need to make it something it's not for obvious reasons.  But witnesses said the cop started it and had Ported in a headlock on the ground and that's why the DA never charged either of them and the league did nothing to Shady. Try as you might, you just simply cannot get around those facts.

 

Yeah, if someone attacked me, a friend trying to help me would be "my boy."  I take it you'd run in a similar circumstance, but hey, you at least you wouldn't be a "lowlife"...

The facts are; McCoy kicked the guy while Porter was not in the ground. Also,  the “self defense” lol ne that Porter AND (bizarrely) McCoy were pushing was found to be completely bogus.  There was nothing for McCoy to defend—this fact cost him $55k.

 

Mccoy was just doing some at-the-club tough guy play acting for your subsequent viewing pleasure.  He wasn’t “helping” anyone.  The DA and the arbitrator set yiu straight in that

[Doc]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

The facts are; McCoy kicked the guy while Porter was not in the ground. Also,  the “self defense” lol ne that Porter AND (bizarrely) McCoy were pushing was found to be completely bogus.  There was nothing for McCoy to defend—this fact cost him $55k.

 

Mccoy was just doing some at-the-club tough guy play acting for your subsequent viewing pleasure.  He wasn’t “helping” anyone.  The DA and the arbitrator set yiu straight in that

 

No criminal charges and no league action (and you know why) for anything he's done set you straight.  If the best you've got is a bar fight and throwing some thot off a bus...

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

No criminal charges and no league action (and you know why) for anything he's done set you straight.  If the best you've got is a bar fight and throwing some thot off a bus...

 

go to him--he needs a friend right now!

[Doc]

31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

go to him--he needs a friend right now!

 

He does?  Seems to be doing just fine.

[Mr. WEO]

21 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

He does?  Seems to be doing just fine.

 

tell him he's relevant again.   Tell him you want to hear all about the Bad Man.