Dwayne Haskins killed [Edit: struck by vehicle]

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I would be curious to hear the context of this— because if he said this, as reported, it is truly horrible.

 

edit: so Brandt apparently is 90 years old and sounded half senile. Not sure he knows what he is saying generally anymore.

 

If "half senile...not sure he knows what he's saying" is the legit explanation for saying dick stuff about a young guy who just died tragically, then maybe his audience should be restricted to the line for the Early Bird Senior Discount at Golden Corral, not national broadcasts.

 

Just sayin'.

[GolfandBills]

Shefter absolutely getting roasted and it’s awesome.  I can’t stand him or the other pompous douche Rappaport.  Stick to reporting who’s signing free agents.  

[Beast]

That's too bad. I'll miss listening to Gil Brandt. 

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

The cnn article I read said he was “walking” on the highway and then decided to cross the highway. How far away from his car was he? 
The biggest question is, if he was walking on the shoulder (presumably) why did he decide to cross it to the other side? 

 

I wonder if the reporting is a bit inaccurate here. 595 is a major highway with a feeder roadway on both sides. There is no walking anywhere near the highway portion. It's elevated in many points and has ~50mph roadways on both sides. It's ridiculous to think someone would be walking anywhere remotely close to this highway unless it was a broken down car. 

 

That said those feeder roads (84) have pathways on the sides of them for bikers and such. It's definitely possible he got hit on 84 and not 595.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

 

Some variation of this is the correct response to the news.

 

 

[whorlnut]

2 hours ago, LV Bills fan said:

When Josh crosses highways on foot he hurdles dump trucks. Too soon?

Not cool. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

14 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

The cnn article I read said he was “walking” on the highway and then decided to cross the highway. How far away from his car was he? 
The biggest question is, if he was walking on the shoulder (presumably) why did he decide to cross it to the other side? 

 

5 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

I wonder if the reporting is a bit inaccurate here. 595 is a major highway with a feeder roadway on both sides. There is no walking anywhere near the highway portion. It's elevated in many points and has ~50mph roadways on both sides. It's ridiculous to think someone would be walking anywhere remotely close to this highway unless it was a broken down car. 

 

That said those feeder roads (84) have pathways on the sides of them for bikers and such. It's definitely possible he got hit on 84 and not 595.

 

I think we're gonna have to wait until better (meaning more definitive) news emerges from the investigation. 

[RaoulDuke79]

6 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

Shefter absolutely getting roasted and it’s awesome.  I can’t stand him or the other pompous douche Rappaport.  Stick to reporting who’s signing free agents.  

Agree....he's a weasel.

[Milanos Milano]

2 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

I wonder if the reporting is a bit inaccurate here. 595 is a major highway with a feeder roadway on both sides. There is no walking anywhere near the highway portion. It's elevated in many points and has ~50mph roadways on both sides. It's ridiculous to think someone would be walking anywhere remotely close to this highway unless it was a broken down car. 

 

That said those feeder roads (84) have pathways on the sides of them for bikers and such. It's definitely possible he got hit on 84 and not 595.

“Walking on the road for unknown reasons”

 

Only sane reason to be would be a broken down car, but even then, I would never walk near the shoulder, not from my lifetime experience with drivers and videos that have circulated. You call for a tow, or AAA, or the police. 
Either way it’s tragic, I’m just trying to make sense out of it. Even if it truly meant suicide. There is no harm in trying to know the facts so we can learn from it. 
 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/09/sport/dwayne-haskins-steelers-death-spt-intl/index.html

[NoSaint]

10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If "half senile...not sure he knows what he's saying" is the legit explanation for saying dick stuff about a young guy who just died tragically, then maybe his audience should be restricted to the line for the Early Bird Senior Discount at Golden Corral, not national broadcasts.

 

Just sayin'.

I suspect going forward it will be, and looking back it should have been. Seeing a few folks chiming in that he has been legitimately unwell for a bit here but folks were profiting off him still. 

[Milanos Milano]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think we're gonna have to wait until better news emerges from the investigation. 

Politics aside, it’s a major news network. If they are wrong, I hope they correct it. But currently it’s reported that he was willfully walking along the highway and decided to walk across it. For whatever reason we can only guess. 

[Warcodered]

38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Definitely a poor choice of words at the start of that audio clip, and a lot better way to talk about the mistakes Haskins made around the beginning of his NFL career.

[NoSaint]

6 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

I wonder if the reporting is a bit inaccurate here. 595 is a major highway with a feeder roadway on both sides. There is no walking anywhere near the highway portion. It's elevated in many points and has ~50mph roadways on both sides. It's ridiculous to think someone would be walking anywhere remotely close to this highway unless it was a broken down car. 

 

That said those feeder roads (84) have pathways on the sides of them for bikers and such. It's definitely possible he got hit on 84 and not 595.

would a reasonable guess be that he was trying to get to one of those safer paths after car trouble? “If I can cross here it’s risky for a minute but much safer the rest of the way” type of situation 

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

“Walking on the road for unknown reasons”

 

Only sane reason to be would be a broken down car, but even then, I would never walk near the shoulder, not from my lifetime experience with drivers and videos that have circulated. You call for a tow, or AAA, or the police. 
Either way it’s tragic, I’m just trying to make sense out of it. Even if it truly meant suicide. There is no harm in trying to know the facts so we can learn from it. 
 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/09/sport/dwayne-haskins-steelers-death-spt-intl/index.html

 

No doubt. Just given how familiar I am with this highway (it's my work commute) it's absolutly crazy to me to think of how (besides a broken down car) a man would come to crossing this highway. With an express lane in the middle too! It's crazy!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Politics aside, it’s a major news network. If they are wrong, I hope they correct it. But currently it’s reported that he was willfully walking along the highway and decided to walk across it. For whatever reason we can only guess. 

 

Unfortunately in this day and age, major news networks are not immune to pulling the trigger on reporting information that proves to be incorrect.

Not saying this is, but just like the first reports on fantastical NFL contracts, it's reasonable to expect there will be second takes.

[ALLEN1QB]

2 hours ago, klos63 said:

yeah, most English speaking people are never involved in car accidents.

 

They 'speak english very dangerous'?   And you criticize others English skills.

 Dude you have no idea what you're talking about I'm just saying I lived in very very South Florida for a number of years and there are a lot of illegal drivers down there that's all I'm saying if you can't grasp that then tough beans.

[NoSaint]

2 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

 

I know that freeway area by the FLL airport. I have no clue why anybody would be there on foot. 

 

Not petty. Totally normal to be wary of that from a supposed leader. 

It’s in the same vein of unprofessionalism that he’s levying criticism for. If he’s genuinely upset with schefter for it, a much better approach would be to tell the story of those more meaningful pieces. put the focus back on the good in Haskins that you believe today should be about instead of centering the story on bickering over tweets. 

[Milanos Milano]

3 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

No doubt. Just given how familiar I am with this highway (it's my work commute) it's absolutly crazy to me to think of how (besides a broken down car) a man would come to crossing this highway. With an express lane in the middle too! It's crazy!

What I don’t understand is, even if the car was broken down, why would you attempted to cross it onto oncoming traffic? Wouldn’t you want to walk to the nearest exit? Parents? Friends? I don’t understand. 

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

9 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

would a reasonable guess be that he was trying to get to one of those safer paths after car trouble? “If I can cross here it’s risky for a minute but much safer the rest of the way” type of situation 

 

Maybe. And and it's actually 2 express lanes in the middle. So 2 express lanes, maybe 5-6 highway lanes on each side at points, plus 2-3 lanes on each side for 84. Madness. Maybe broke down on the highway and couldn't get to the side. I can't imagine

[NoSaint]

6 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

What I don’t understand is, even if the car was broken down, why would you attempted to cross it onto oncoming traffic? Wouldn’t you want to walk to the nearest exit? Parents? Friends? I don’t understand. 

I mean, I think you can create some sort of simple narrative where sitting on the shoulder is also very unsafe, but you might not have a way to get off the shoulder nearby on your side so a guy might roll the dice to cross.
 

It’s not so incredibly unbelievable someone might do the math that way (not that we know that’s what happened) 

[Milanos Milano]

3 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

Maybe. And and it's actually 2 express lanes in the middle. So 2 express lanes, maybe 5-6 highway lanes on each side at points, plus 2-3 lanes on each side for 84. Madness. Maybe broke down on the highway and couldn't get to the side. I can't imagine

The article made it sound like it was random walking on the highway. I didn’t see reports of a distressed vehicle stalled on the highway. I’m sure that would be a big piece of the story. I’m sure it possible it broke down a few feet back and he walked a ways, but why cross a major highway? To me that is the biggest question. I’m not sure how that makes sense. 

Edited April 9, 2022 by IronMaidenBills

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

Maybe. And and it's actually 2 express lanes in the middle. So 2 express lanes, maybe 5-6 highway lanes on each side at points, plus 2-3 lanes on each side for 84. Madness. Maybe broke down on the highway and couldn't get to the side. I can't imagine

yea, I was picturing some highway stretches I’ve been on with terrible shoulders and walled off stretches where I can’t say staying put is safe… but can’t imagine crossing that either, hearing your description. 

[Milanos Milano]

3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I mean, I think you can create some sort of simple narrative where sitting on the shoulder is also very unsafe, but you might not have a way to get off the shoulder nearby on your side so a guy might roll the dice to cross.
 

It’s not so incredibly unbelievable someone might do the math that way (not that we know that’s what happened) 

I mean I suppose. It’s conceivably possible. Just seems strange. Being an ultra competitive athlete, maybe he thought his athletic abilities could make it to the other side faster for help. Who honestly knows. 

Edited April 9, 2022 by IronMaidenBills

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

The article made it sound like it was random walking on the highway. I didn’t see reports of a distressed vehicle stalled on the highway. I’m sure that would be a big piece of the story. I’m sure it possible it broke down a few feet back and he walked a ways, but why cross a major highway? To me that is the biggest question. I’m not sure how that makes sense. 

I think the articles are just parroting the verbiage of the initial police reports as there isn’t much color context in the official statements from the local PD that they are working off. 

[Milanos Milano]

I do know some people live for the thrill, even if “normal” people see it as foolish. I knew a person like that. Would walk on train tracks and roads just to live in the moment, full knowing it was dangerous. Maybe Haskins just thought he could make it, because why not? He’s made it to where he was on elite talent, why wouldn’t you believe in yourself. This story is honestly really interesting. Just trying to understand it all. 

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I do know some people live for the thrill, even if “normal” people see it as foolish. I knew a person like that. Would walk on train tracks and roads just to live in the moment, full knowing it was dangerous. Maybe Haskins just thought he could make it, because why not? He’s made it to where he was on elite talent, why wouldn’t you believe in yourself. This story is honestly really interesting. Just trying to understand it all. 

Umm… 

[ToGoGo]

12 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I mean, I think you can create some sort of simple narrative where sitting on the shoulder is also very unsafe, but you might not have a way to get off the shoulder nearby on your side so a guy might roll the dice to cross.
 

It’s not so incredibly unbelievable someone might do the math that way (not that we know that’s what happened) 

 

What time of morning was it? Day time? Night time? 

 

Early morning he could still be drunk or hungover and make that kind of nonsensical decision. 

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

Umm… 

How else could you rationalize crossing an interstate by foot? 
Either it was overconfidence, for the thrill, or just distressed misjudgment. I’m just trying different angles here to try and make it make sense. 

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, ToGoGo said:

 

What time of morning was it? Day time? Night time? 

 

Early morning he could still be drunk or hungover and make that kind of nonsensical decision. 

6:37

[CowgirlsFan]

RIP

Condolences.

[AuntieEm]

5 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I think the articles are just parroting the verbiage of the initial police reports as there isn’t much color context in the official statements from the local PD that they are working off. 

    Yea we only have a few of the details.  There shouldn't be any details in the initial statement from LE.  If an investigation is needed they can do the best job by releasing no information until it is required in the process.  The most important fact is a young man lost his life in a tragic accident.  No blame or other speculation should be presented on so little information.  And the family should be allowed some say on what is released to the public if its not part of any investigation.  

[ToGoGo]

7 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

How else could you rationalize crossing an interstate by foot? 
Either it was overconfidence, for the thrill, or just distressed misjudgment. I’m just trying different angles here to try and make it make sense. 

 

6:30am in Fort Lauderdale. I'm starting to think alcohol was involved. 

 

Drunk driving? Car breaks down? Get out of there before the cops come. 

 

Anyone who has driven on the 95 knows how many abondoned cars there are on the road. 

 

Toxicology will tell the story but that makes the most sense to me. 

[Jester]

5 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Lamar calling out Schefter. I know what he's saying but damn dude , use some proper grammar and punctuation

 

 

I actually don’t know what he’s trying to say. 🤨 But on topic … RIP Dwayne Haskins. Far too young. 😢

[ToGoGo]

4 minutes ago, ToGoGo said:

 

6:30am in Fort Lauderdale. I'm starting to think alcohol was involved. 

 

Drunk driving? Car breaks down? Get out of there before the cops come. 

 

Anyone who has driven on the 95 knows how many abondoned cars there are on the road. 

 

Toxicology will tell the story but that makes the most sense to me. 

 

To add to this, with his track record, a DUI would've been a career ender. 

[NoSaint]

6 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

    Yea we only have a few of the details.  There shouldn't be any details in the initial statement from LE.  If an investigation is needed they can do the best job by releasing no information until it is required in the process.  The most important fact is a young man lost his life in a tragic accident.  No blame or other speculation should be presented on so little information.  And the family should be allowed some say on what is released to the public if its not part of any investigation.  

yup- surely there’s some investigation going on and the police and news agencies are going to be a bit conservative on what they release until things are firmed up.
 

I’d venture within a couple days we will get most of the meaningful info and based on lack of sensational leaks coming out it’ll probably be a sad, but unspectacular, story of every day life sometimes going terribly awry.

[Milanos Milano]

13 minutes ago, ToGoGo said:

 

6:30am in Fort Lauderdale. I'm starting to think alcohol was involved. 

 

Drunk driving? Car breaks down? Get out of there before the cops come. 

 

Anyone who has driven on the 95 knows how many abondoned cars there are on the road. 

 

Toxicology will tell the story but that makes the most sense to me. 

I honestly don’t care how it happened, just want to know so we can learn from it. Was it purely accidental? If so ok, let’s try and understand the thought processes, so we can try and reduce the risks so we can possibly save a life in the future. Was it alcohol, drugs, or suicide? Oh well if it was, we can still use it as a learning experience. I don’t like it when families cover up incidences, otherwise how can we try and prevent these things from happening in the future. Maybe their story will help someone. 

4 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

yup- surely there’s some investigation going on and the police and news agencies are going to be a bit conservative on what they release until things are firmed up.
 

I’d venture within a couple days we will get most of the meaningful info and based on lack of sensational leaks coming out it’ll probably be a sad, but unspectacular, story of every day life sometimes going terribly awry.

Even if this was a sober incident. The public can still learn from it. Was it overconfidence in ability to cross a road? Was it a stress induced misjudgment? Was it a spur of the moment thrill? We may never know, but it’s important to try and get the correct story so families and people can look at it as educational. 

Edited April 9, 2022 by IronMaidenBills

[HappyDays]

7 hours ago, SCBills said:

Schefter stays posting some incredibly bizarre stuff lately.   “Struggling to catch on..”…. Oh, ok, thanks for reminding us how he wasn’t doing so well in the NFL before tragically dying today.   Vital information, Adam. 

 

Schefter has spent so long being a mouthpiece for agents he forgot how to report the news.

[drab08]

The amount of speculation in this thread is truly mind boggling.  People talking themselves into some narrative they've conjured up in a definitive way.

Stepping in gum doesn't make you a gumshoe.

[Milanos Milano]

2 minutes ago, drab08 said:

The amount of speculation in this thread is truly mind boggling.  People talking themselves into some narrative they've conjured up in a definitive way.

Stepping in gum doesn't make you a gumshoe.

It’s called investigative reasoning. There is nothing wrong with trying to find out what happened. It doesn’t take away from the sadness or the person Haskins was. 

[ToGoGo]

2 minutes ago, drab08 said:

The amount of speculation in this thread is truly mind boggling.  People talking themselves into some narrative they've conjured up in a definitive way.

Stepping in gum doesn't make you a gumshoe.

 

What's your point? 

 

Do you want a thread filled with nothing but condolences? Some of us prefer solving mysteries instead of acting smarter or wiser than others.