MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 13 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I was curious who'd take jersey #5 with him and Barkley on the way. I forget he was #7 in Minny. Marquez Stevenson giving it up? Keenum also wore 7 in college. Barkley I believe wore 7 in college but 5 in HS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Marquez Stevenson giving it up? Keenum also wore 7 in college. Barkley I believe wore 7 in college but 5 in HS. oh lord I forgot WRs wear single/teen numbers now. I honestly forgot Marquez wore 5 lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 What a great move, a 7th for a serviceable back up is cheap! On of the best back up options available imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 And with Capra falling off the top 51 (705K) the real increase to the cap is 2.795M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I knew Barkley couldn't be the real back up target....very solid move here and a guy that can win games especially on a roster built like this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I don’t know if this has been discussed earlier, I’m at work and can’t go through 20 pages but I think that Beane is more of a genius than what he has already been credited. This QB carousel is like musical chairs, when the music stops there’s going to be a couple of teams that are still in need of a QB. I’m starting to think that Keemun is trade bait. Under Dorsey I’m expecting more of a run game this season which would help whatever back up QB but especially Barkley. I expect Barkley to be the back up and Keenum is traded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I’m starting to think that Keemun is trade bait. Under Dorsey I’m expecting more of a run game this season which would help whatever back up QB but especially Barkley. I expect Barkley to be the back up and Keenum is traded. No.. Barkley jumped the shark when he was here the last time… I don’t want him anywhere near the field on game day… If he wants to work a gazillion hours doing film study and other leg work that Davis Webb did from the practice squad then I’m fine with that… And what “trade bait” is Keenum going to get you anyway? He just went for a 7th and Cleveland had to tip in some money to make that work… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I don’t know if this has been discussed earlier, I’m at work and can’t go through 20 pages but I think that Beane is more of a genius than what he has already been credited. This QB carousel is like musical chairs, when the music stops there’s going to be a couple of teams that are still in need of a QB. I’m starting to think that Keemun is trade bait. Under Dorsey I’m expecting more of a run game this season which would help whatever back up QB but especially Barkley. I expect Barkley to be the back up and Keenum is traded. what could you possibly get for Keenum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, nucci said: what could you possibly get for Keenum? More than he is worth when some team looses their starter in the preseason..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 3:38 PM, Aussie Joe said: This signing looks like it’s vintage Beane.. Got the Browns to pay his $1m bonus for the cost of a 7th and at $3.5m Keenan is good value ..assume he might be chasing a ring also.. Hopefully he won’t see the field in meaningful action just like Mitch ..apart from Week 18 when they have clinched home field… but if Josh misses a couple of games Case might be a chance of getting us a win… Well done Beane.,, I hope as I did with other previous backups that backups would get meaningful snaps in 2nd half because Bills were far enough ahead and all three teams were playing well enough that backup QB could run offense and reduce number of hits on our starting QB. This would also reduce risks of him being hurt and forcing Bills to start backup QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Man I remember when options like this were not even available at the starting QB position (preseason 2013 comes to mind). The times they have a changed… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 So his 6.1M cap hit is now 3.5M. Was this just a salary reduction or did the Brown pay some? I am curious why Keenum would agree to that since he seems like someone people view as a quality backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said: So his 6.1M cap hit is now 3.5M. Was this just a salary reduction or did the Brown pay some? I am curious why Keenum would agree to that since he seems like someone people view as a quality backup. Browns retained some salary cap by paying out his bonus before the trade I do believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, ddaryl said: Browns retained some salary cap by paying out his bonus before the trade I do believe Good value for the Bills for sure... nice job Beane! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 21 hours ago, Tipster19 said: I don’t know if this has been discussed earlier, I’m at work and can’t go through 20 pages but I think that Beane is more of a genius than what he has already been credited. This QB carousel is like musical chairs, when the music stops there’s going to be a couple of teams that are still in need of a QB. I’m starting to think that Keemun is trade bait. Under Dorsey I’m expecting more of a run game this season which would help whatever back up QB but especially Barkley. I expect Barkley to be the back up and Keenum is traded. Or...Bills try to stash Barkley on the PS.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said: So his 6.1M cap hit is now 3.5M. Was this just a salary reduction or did the Brown pay some? I am curious why Keenum would agree to that since he seems like someone people view as a quality backup. I understand the Browns only paid his $1M roster bonus a few days ago which is seperate to his salary… As to why he agreed to come to Buffalo for less money… perhaps at this stage of his career he is looking to be on a team that can win the championship… also he figures he may be able to sign again at Buffalo in 2023 if things go well… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said: So his 6.1M cap hit is now 3.5M. Was this just a salary reduction or did the Brown pay some? I am curious why Keenum would agree to that since he seems like someone people view as a quality backup. Basically at this point the details haven't come out and we don't know. It could beconverted to incentives, it could have been converted to salary bonus and divided between this year and a void year, it could have remained with the Browns. As I recall, none of the money in the Browns contract was guaranteed, so they could have just cut him? Whatever happened, it seems like a good bet that Keenum had to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Basically at this point the details haven't come out and we don't know. It could beconverted to incentives, it could have been converted to salary bonus and divided between this year and a void year, it could have remained with the Browns. As I recall, none of the money in the Browns contract was guaranteed, so they could have just cut him? Whatever happened, it seems like a good bet that Keenum had to agree. The Browns dead cap figure for Keenum is on Spotrac .. Doesnt include any salary…just his pro rata signing bonus and roster bonus.. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/cap/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: The Browns dead cap figure for Keenum is on Spotrac .. Doesnt include any salary…just his pro rata signing bonus and roster bonus.. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/cap/ Fair. The Keenum figure showing a $3.5M cap hit is on the Bills salary cap table, but still in purple, leading me to believe there are some details not known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: I understand the Browns only paid his $1M roster bonus a few days ago which is seperate to his salary… As to why he agreed to come to Buffalo for less money… perhaps at this stage of his career he is looking to be on a team that can win the championship… also he figures he may be able to sign again at Buffalo in 2023 if things go well… He could agree to a reduced salary for a number of reasons I guess, but I guess given what Tyrod Taylor and others get, a guy with his experience and production is worthy of more than 3.5M. At least that is what I would have thought. I was wrong one time before though so anything is possible In any event, I think this is great for our Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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