Breece Hall Please!!

[Milanos Milano]

35 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

It's up to beane to decide what's our biggest need 

 

Hall can be a upgrade and dynamic weapon to our offense

 

But we are very thin at CB as well in a passing league 

 

We are very very thin

 

 

 

 

 

I agree, we are thin at CB and OG. I’m not going to be mad if we take a CB in round 1. I really like Hall as a prospect, but if Beane truly feels that McDuffie or whoever wins us more games than Breece Hall, so be it. I just feel like round 3 and 4 CBs are still talented enough to start, there are some good ones. 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said:

When we win a super bowl with Breece Hall, everyone will get over the fact we drafted him in the 1st round. 

And if we don’t, I’ll hunt you down and kill your *******!!!!

[John from Riverside]

20 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I agree, we are thin at CB and OG. I’m not going to be mad if we take a CB in round 1. I really like Hall as a prospect, but if Beane truly feels that McDuffie or whoever wins us more games than Breece Hall, so be it. I just feel like round 3 and 4 CBs are still talented enough to start, there are some good ones. 

No problem with Hall or Walker or whatever after the first round they are not first round talents

[Milanos Milano]

8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

No problem with Hall or Walker or whatever after the first round they are not first round talents

Multiple NFL insiders have said Hall is worth a late round first pick. It might not be the pick you want, but don’t say they aren’t first round talents, some team will value them as such. We see it every year. 

[GolfandBills]

15 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Multiple NFL insiders have said Hall is worth a late round first pick. It might not be the pick you want, but don’t say they aren’t first round talents, some team will value them as such. We see it every year. 

Multiple have said he isn’t either 

[John from Riverside]

22 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Multiple NFL insiders have said Hall is worth a late round first pick. It might not be the pick you want, but don’t say they aren’t first round talents, some team will value them as such. We see it every year. 

There are also talent evaluators to say that there are not 31 first round pics in this draft just because you want Breece Hall don’t let it affect your judgment

 

I don’t have a dog in the fight on a particular player I like several

[NewEra]

59 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Multiple NFL insiders have said Hall is worth a late round first pick. It might not be the pick you want, but don’t say they aren’t first round talents, some team will value them as such. We see it every year. 

And then we see them not win a super bowl

[Sierra Foothills]

6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I really haven't seen 1 person say he isn't good 

 

What people are saying is we have other positions of need 

 

We could've won a SB last year with singletary as our lead... Now is hall better? Yes 

 

But Devin isn't solely keeping us back... Our offense scores ...our defense let us down 

 

Hall certainly would make us more dynamic on offense 

 

We can win a SB without drafting him

 

You sure are vacillating qu well.

 

Once actual debate about Hall is if he has good speed or not.

 

Some say he's slower than he times.

 

Others say he's as fast as he times.

 

He sure had a lot of long touchdowns.

 

 

 

6 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

We already took care of the defensive issue with Von Miller. Now it’s time to address the weakest link on offense. We can still draft a CB and an OG later in the draft. 

 

It all depends on who's there. We can draft any position in any round.

 

6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

It's up to beane to decide what's our biggest need 

 

Hall can be a upgrade and dynamic weapon to our offense

 

But we are very thin at CB as well in a passing league 

 

We are very very thin

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't realize we were that thin.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I approve this idea. If Bills Twitter hates it, I love it.

[Matt_In_NH]

10 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I really haven't seen 1 person say he isn't good 

 

What people are saying is we have other positions of need 

 

We could've won a SB last year with singletary as our lead... Now is hall better? Yes 

 

But Devin isn't solely keeping us back... Our offense scores ...our defense let us down 

 

Hall certainly would make us more dynamic on offense 

 

We can win a SB without drafting him

Spot on, agree with all of this.  My argument for why they might do it anyway is their desire to run Josh Allen less.  They have stated they need/want to do this and they have signed a couple of run blockers on the OL.  Adding a feature back to go with singletary could be the final price in that plan.     
 

No clue what the bills think about positional value as it relates to the specific guys who may be there at 25.  I think we see an RB in the first three rounds though.  A lot will depend on how the draft falls.  

[Solomon Grundy]

9 hours ago, GolfandBills said:

Multiple have said he isn’t either 

No, they said VALUE. Not TALENT

[Milanos Milano]

32 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

No, they said VALUE. Not TALENT

That’s ok, let them be disingenuous. 

[NewEra]

38 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

No, they said VALUE. Not TALENT

Who is they?  You’re saying that everyone has Breece Hall as a first round talent?  
 

[Jay_Fixit]

11 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I really haven't seen 1 person say he isn't good 

 

What people are saying is we have other positions of need 

 

We could've won a SB last year with singletary as our lead... Now is hall better? Yes 

 

But Devin isn't solely keeping us back... Our offense scores ...our defense let us down 

 

Hall certainly would make us more dynamic on offense 

 

We can win a SB without drafting him

And yet if CB isn’t BPA, it won’t make sense to draft one just because.

[NewEra]

39 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

And yet if CB isn’t BPA, it won’t make sense to draft one just because.

Has he been insinuating that it would make sense? 

[frostbitmic]

If Hall is still available with our 2nd round pick I'd take him. Looking at our RB room we have two third round picks in Singletary, Moss and we added Duuuuuke. Daboll only called on JA17 to run it, I'm sure that Dorsey will have RB's in the gameplan more.

 

If Tre' isn't ready by September, who starts opposite Dane Jackson ?

[Milanos Milano]

5 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

If Hall is still available with our 2nd round pick I'd take him. Looking at our RB room we have two third round picks in Singletary, Moss and we added Duuuuuke. Daboll only called on JA17 to run it, I'm sure that Dorsey will have RB's in the gameplan more.

 

If Tre' isn't ready by September, who starts opposite Dane Jackson ?

We will likely draft a 3rd round CB and sign a FA CB at some point. 

[Milanos Milano]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Think it was quite obvious offensive line was our weakest link last season and it’s questionable to suggest it’s been sufficiently improved at this point in the off-season. 

 

There are some decent OG that can be had later in the draft. Lecitus Smith, Ed Ingram, Donovan West. 2 of which were Bills invites. 

 

I’d much rather attack the draft in the first two rounds with RB/WR. Dotson, Moore, and WanDale are all WRs I wouldn’t mind drafting in the 2nd. 

Edited April 24, 2022 by IronMaidenBills

[NewEra]

20 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

If Hall is still available with our 2nd round pick I'd take him. Looking at our RB room we have two third round picks in Singletary, Moss and we added Duuuuuke. Daboll only called on JA17 to run it, I'm sure that Dorsey will have RB's in the gameplan more.

 

If Tre' isn't ready by September, who starts opposite Dane Jackson ?

A vet or a draft pick will start opposite Dane while Tre is out.  We just don’t who who

13 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

 

There are some decent OG that can be had later in the draft. Lecitus Smith, Ed Ingram, Donovan West. 2 of which were Bills invites. 

 

I’d much rather attack the draft in the first two rounds with RB/WR. Dotson, Moore, and WanDale are all WRs I wouldn’t mind drafting in the 2nd. 

There are some decent OGs that can be had later in the draft.

 

there are some decent RBs than can be had later in the draft.  
 

see what I did there?  
 

good luck having Dotson or Moore falling to us in rd 2

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Who is they?  You’re saying that everyone has Breece Hall as a first round talent?  
 

Do your own research!!

[Patrick Duffy]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Who is they?  You’re saying that everyone has Breece Hall as a first round talent?  
 

From what I've came across it's a lot saying 2nd round. 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Do your own research!!

I have.  I’m asking you if you believed what you stated 

1 hour ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

From what I've came across it's a lot saying 2nd round. 

Same.  But……

[Buffalo716]

8 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

You sure are vacillating qu well.

 

Once actual debate about Hall is if he has good speed or not.

 

Some say he's slower than he times.

 

Others say he's as fast as he times.

 

He sure had a lot of long touchdowns.

 

 

 

 

It all depends on who's there. We can draft any position in any round.

 

 

I didn't realize we were that thin.

You didn't realize we were thin at CB? 

 

We literally have two outside cornerbacks on the roster.. one is coming off an ACL injury.. one has never been a full-time starter

 

And I said it a dozen times in this thread 

 

Breece Hall is talented.. now when I watched him play did I think 4.38? No  

 

But he has juice on the field and he would fit our offense..  but running back isn't the only position we need 

 

It will all depend how the draft falls

 

 

 

[Patrick Duffy]

19 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I have.  I’m asking you if you believed what you stated 

Same.  But……

 

Oh yeah bro...I'm with you here for sure. I can't see him being Bills 1st round pick.

[Jay_Fixit]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Has he been insinuating that it would make sense? 

Are you his bodyguard?

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Are you his bodyguard?

No. Just a guy that had a question about one of your posts.
 

so…… l asked the question 🙋🏻‍♂️ 

[Buffalo716]

4 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

And yet if CB isn’t BPA, it won’t make sense to draft one just because.

Absolutely  

 

I'm not saying to reach for a player just to reach 

 

I'm all for the best player available at a position of need when we are on the clock... But it all depends how it falls

[frostbitmic]

6 hours ago, NewEra said:

A vet or a draft pick will start opposite Dane while Tre is out.  We just don’t who who

There are some decent OGs that can be had later in the draft.

 

there are some decent RBs than can be had later in the draft.  
 

see what I did there?  
 

good luck having Dotson or Moore falling to us in rd 2

That's a bit scary... I'm in the draft Booth or Gordon camp before drafting another RB or WR.

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

That's a bit scary... I'm in the draft Booth or Gordon camp before drafting another RB or WR.

That’s who starts for every team.  A vet or a draft pick.  At every position.  A vet or a draft pick 🤣 

 

I hear ya.  I love booth and would be VERY happy if he’s the pick.  Even in a trade up. He’s a baller.  Gordon I love too. I guess his combine numbers soured me on him just a bit. At one point, I would’ve been happy with him @25, but now I think I’d lean trading back if he’s the BPA.  I thought he would be a 4.35-4.42 type.  Watching him, his play speed seems much faster than the 4.52 that he ran. 
 

I think we’d be getting a nice player if he’s our pick @25.  I just think I’d prefer a WR and go CB in 2 or 3.

[SoCal Deek]

Are people stuck in a time warp from back in February? Having watched how the entirety of the free agent season and signings have gone down, knowing the needs of this team’s roster, and the depth of the 2022 draft class it’s REALLY hard to envision the first pick being anything other than a CB. (And then the SD State punter over the weekend…of course. 😉)

[Milanos Milano]

33 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Are people stuck in a time warp from back in February? Having watched how the entirety of the free agent season and signings have gone down, knowing the needs of this team’s roster, and the depth of the 2022 draft class it’s REALLY hard to envision the first pick being anything other than a CB. (And then the SD State punter over the weekend…of course. 😉)

Some of us watched Allen carry this team in unnecessary ways because our run game couldn’t sustain drives. Unable to get goal line TDs or short yardage downs, or big plays on the ground. This team is never going to win a Super Bowl being 1 dimensional. While I agree we need a CB, we can draft one in the 3rd. I’d much rather draft Hall and get a CB later. 

[NewEra]

39 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Are people stuck in a time warp from back in February? Having watched how the entirety of the free agent season and signings have gone down, knowing the needs of this team’s roster, and the depth of the 2022 draft class it’s REALLY hard to envision the first pick being anything other than a CB. (And then the SD State punter over the weekend…of course. 😉)

Cb is a need…but that doesn’t mean you should potentially reach for a player to fill that need.  There are other rounds to fill the need of CB.  
 

you just can’t go into the draft saying : we have to draft a cornerback in rd one.  That’s just bad GMing.  BPA at a somewhat position of need.  If it’s corner, it should definitely be the pick, but if the highest rated corner left on their board is outside of their next 5-10 BPA’s picking that corner would be 💩 

[Solomon Grundy]

10 hours ago, NewEra said:

Who is they?  You’re saying that everyone has Breece Hall as a first round talent?  
 

Your efforts behooves me. You may wanna ask Virgil where he gets his info from. No more cheating off my paper

[NewEra]

20 hours ago, GolfandBills said:

Multiple have said he isn’t either 

 

11 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

No, they said VALUE. Not TALENT

 

49 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Your efforts behooves me. You may wanna ask Virgil where he gets his info from. No more cheating off my paper

Dude is talking about talent evaluators in general by saying that multiple people don’t have a 1st round grade on Hall. You disputed that statement contending that “they said value, not talent”…… and to prove your point…..you list the players that we’ve visited with.  Several of which are not first rd graded players.  How does this make sense to you?

Edited April 25, 2022 by NewEra

[Putin]

Breece Hall yes please , @ 25 HELL NOOO !!! 
 

[Solomon Grundy]

26 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

 

Dude is talking about talent evaluators in general by saying that multiple people don’t have a 1st round grade on Hall. You disputed that statement contending that “they said value, not talent”…… and to prove your point…..you list the players that we’ve visited with.  Several of which are not first rd graded players.  How does this make sense to you?

Wow!! Do you not see Breece Hall name on list and they project him to go in the 1st/2nd rd? Also many HAS said his value is not in the 1st

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Wow!! Do you not see Breece Hall name on list and they project him to go in the 1st/2nd rd? Also many HAS said his value is not in the 1st

……soloman…..

 

what don’t you understand about “they” being more than just that one list? 

[SoCal Deek]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Are people stuck in a time warp from back in February? Having watched how the entirety of the free agent season and signings have gone down, knowing the needs of this team’s roster, and the depth of the 2022 draft class it’s REALLY hard to envision the first pick being anything other than a CB. (And then the SD State punter over the weekend…of course. 😉)

And now I’ll quote myself. Having just watched the latest Mock on ESPN a little bit ago…guess who they had the Bills taking in Round One. 😳

[B-Man]

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

And now I’ll quote myself. Having just watched the latest Mock on ESPN a little bit ago…guess who they had the Bills taking in Round One. 😳

 

 

I give up .

 

 

[Milanos Milano]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

……soloman…..

 

what don’t you understand about “they” being more than just that one list? 

I’m sure our front office is smart enough to evaluate Breece Hall. I’m willing to bet they have him around the 25-40 range. I’m sure they know that trading down a few spots comes at a risk, but it’s something I could see happening. I would be surprise to see us picking up an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder and using that pick for a CB or OG. 

Edited April 25, 2022 by IronMaidenBills