JGMcD2 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) The news that Patrick Graham has left the New York Giants DC post to take over as the Las Vegas Raiders DC, despite Daboll making a public statement that he wanted to keep Patrick Graham as his DC, has me worried that Daboll is driving coaches away. It’s a clear sign that he’s in way over his head in NY and is an extremely toxic individual. This is 100% believable and probably accurate given everything we know today. I think as more information leaks out from coaches that have already left and others likely out the door soon that there's trouble in paradise so to speak and this another reason Daboll’s seat may be very hot in 2022. Guys, I’m 10000000% kidding. Edited February 5, 2022 by JGMcD2 1 3 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 10000000% kidding means nothing since it cannot exist so it means you are NOT kidding. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 He's driving some of our assistants away and down to NJ from OP and he needs to stop loading up his truck with Bills assistants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: The news that Patrick Graham has left the New York Giants DC post to take over as the Las Vegas Raiders DC, despite Daboll making a public statement that he wanted to keep Patrick Graham as his DC, has me worried that Daboll is driving coaches away. It’s a clear sign that he’s in way over his head in NY and is an extremely toxic individual. This is 100% believable and probably accurate given everything we know today. I think as more information leaks out from coaches that have already left and others likely out the door soon that there's trouble in paradise so to speak and this another reason Daboll’s seat may be very hot in 2022. Guys, I’m 10000000% kidding. Shame on you crawling in here posting this Crap at this time of night! You're an analytics and stats guy and you know damned well that 100% is the maximum value 🦨 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 How many coaches have were lost to Giants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 The stupidity of the OP aside (there's a whole host of reasons Graham would prefer Vegas over NJ). I wonder if Leslie Frazier would consider making a lateral move to the Giants. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, billsherd said: How many coaches have were lost to Giants? Two. Bobby Johnson (OL to OL) and Shea Tierney (Assistant QBs to QB Coach). On a serious note (I didn't bite @JGMcD2, honest) losing Graham is a blow for them. He has done a good job there. But allegedly Wink Martindale was the DC name Daboll was giving this year at interviews it just so happened with the Giants that they had a guy in situ who Daboll had familiarity with. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Two. Bobby Johnson (OL to OL) and Shea Tierney (Assistant QBs to QB Coach). On a serious note (I didn't bite @JGMcD2, honest) losing Graham is a blow for them. He has done a good job there. But allegedly Wink Martindale was the DC name Daboll was giving this year at interviews it just so happened with the Giants that they had a guy in situ who Daboll had familiarity with. They should hire Flores . I could see Daboll making a run at Martindale, Fangio, Wilks, Zimmer, or promote from within. He has a lot of options. Edited February 5, 2022 by Doc Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 He is not HC material, just like Bieniemy and Frazier. These guys are not leaders and will go back to their OC/DC gigs after they fail. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Maybe the DC just viewed the Raiders as a better opportunity?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: He is not HC material, just like Bieniemy and Frazier. These guys are not leaders and will go back to their OC/DC gigs after they fail. Thank You.... ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: He is not HC material, just like Bieniemy and Frazier. These guys are not leaders and will go back to their OC/DC gigs after they fail. That may or may not prove itself true with Daboll. The problem is when there are 6, 7, 8, and this year 9 vacancies every year there simply aren't the slam dunk candidates out there to fill them. Of the first time guys hired I think Daboll and Eberflus were certainly the most deserving. Whether it works out or not is a different question. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: The news that Patrick Graham has left the New York Giants DC post to take over as the Las Vegas Raiders DC, despite Daboll making a public statement that he wanted to keep Patrick Graham as his DC, has me worried that Daboll is driving coaches away. It’s a clear sign that he’s in way over his head in NY and is an extremely toxic individual. This is 100% believable and probably accurate given everything we know today. I think as more information leaks out from coaches that have already left and others likely out the door soon that there's trouble in paradise so to speak and this another reason Daboll’s seat may be very hot in 2022. Guys, I’m 10000000% kidding. You had me. Well played. Edited February 5, 2022 by CoudyBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 100% is the highest you’re allowed to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: That may or may not prove itself true with Daboll. The problem is when there are 6, 7, 8, and this year 9 vacancies every year there simply aren't the slam dunk candidates out there to fill them. Of the first time guys hired I think Daboll and Eberflus were certainly the most deserving. Whether it works out or not is a different question. Bieniemy has best resume by far of the assistant coach 1st time HC candidates, has for a few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: Bieniemy has best resume by far of the assistant coach 1st time HC candidates, has for a few years. that is subjective. Daboll has way more autonomy over his offensive than BIeniemy. in some eyes, this makes him a better candidate. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: Bieniemy has best resume by far of the assistant coach 1st time HC candidates, has for a few years. Not really. Andy Reid runs that offensive show 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: 100% is the highest you’re allowed to go. Technically he could go over 100% if he had Dissociative identity disorder but 10000000% would mean he had a different personality for more than number of Biillicheat has cheated which I think is impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: He is not HC material, just like Bieniemy and Frazier. These guys are not leaders and will go back to their OC/DC gigs after they fail. Good chance you're right just because more that half of the coordinators who become head coaches do fail, but you never know when and where the exceptions come from. When the Bills hired McD many thought the same here. While some here who hate the guy will likely respond that he's not a good HC, his record doesn't agree with that. He and Beane have turned the team around. There's been many good teams and coaches over the years who didn't win it all. Having said all that do think the fact that Daboll took this long in his career to get where he is doesn't bode well for him. One of the few coaches who only succeeded well into his career was Marv Levy, but he had a very stacked team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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