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6 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

I said it after his complete failure in the first NE game (which cost us this game at home FWIW) that McDermott will never get this team to the big game, and he has only further cemented my belief with his epic failure with 13 seconds left to secure the victory by using the squib kick.

 

McDermott brings something to the table, but it's not supreme coaching ability to match his all world QB.

 

Too many Bills fans are like their coach and are afraid to not accept failure and reach for greatness.

 

Josh Allen and company deserve better

 

 

I understand your point, I really do.  I think he deserves 2 more years though.  I've been more harsh on the coordinators up to this point.  I do think McD should have taken over the D for this game.  I think (if he didn't) that if he didn't it was because he wanted to give Frasier a chance to prove himself because he's a HC'ing candidate.  Pure speculation on my part obviously.  I do think that Frasier should be gone after this one no matter what.  As for McD, I give him a 1 or 2 year pass.  This one really, really hurts. :( 

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Sean McDermott has snapped the drought, lifted us much higher then we'd actually be, and has gotten the most out of his players.  It's understandable people are frustrated.  People hate Outta Control Andy for his Coaching of eye gouges, punches, and kicks.  The officials let that happen last year and this year as well.  There's now ay they wanted KC to lose that one and allowed defensive players to get throttled.  

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8 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Literally no one outside this forum believes this. National media is raving about this game. 

McDermott is a defensive minded coach and I’ve never seen a team give up so many yards and lose so many games under 2 minutes. We play so ***** soft on D and every time the other team comes right down the field for a W I said this a long time ago. McDermott is a soft hearted man with no killer instinct n I told you we will never win with him as our coach everyone said I was crazy 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

1 hour ago, Thriftygamer83 said:

Sean McDermott has snapped the drought, lifted us much higher then we'd actually be, and has gotten the most out of his players.  It's understandable people are frustrated.  People hate Outta Control Andy for his Coaching of eye gouges, punches, and kicks.  The officials let that happen last year and this year as well.  There's now ay they wanted KC to lose that one and allowed defensive players to get throttled.  

He’s still soft allowing teams to win games with less then a minute left is becoming a McDermott trait. N Daboll took the ball out of Allen’s hands after we held them to a field goal. This coaching staff makes so many game day mistakes 

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8 hours ago, Igotbills said:


 

I have followed this board a long time, just don’t post. I think it’s a good question and worth a discussion. Do you think no change is needed if we lose again to kc next year? 

Did you enjoy the previous 20 years?

 

We lost in an historically absurd game to an opposing qb who also played perfect.

 

Maybe you're thinking a coin toss to decide McDermott future??

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How does he have any respect from his players after this? The offensive guys will be pissed that such an incredible effort was wasted. The defensive guys will be pissed that he coached so gutless and scared that they were in prevent with 13 seconds left guarding the endzone. I think he dug his own grave last night. A coach's word just doesn't mean as much after losing a game the way they lost last night. Cowardly 

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8 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

McDermott is just not a very clever coach. We all applaud him for his process and culture burgers that he cooks up. But how awful was our D tonight. The only D lineman that gave a damn tonight was Ed with 1 sack and 2 TFL's. Oliver also got held 3-4 times as Hussey ignored it. Our pass rushing DE's should take that embarrassment question from Sullivan. I don't know what to make of Clappy anymore. Squib the f ing ball dumbass.

The inability of the right side to contain has killed the Bills for years. Jerry Hughes looked like a slow rookie on the Mahomes TD run. Also, deciding Levi Wallace is enough finally bit them big. 

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8 hours ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:

I would have fired him if we stumbled and didn’t make the playoffs. This loss will stick to him forever. He gets 1 more year and if they don’t get to the super bowl he’s gone. You cannot waste years when you have this much talent on the team. 
 

ive disliked McDermott since he punted the ball in the colts snow game years ago when we needed to win the game and not tie. We got a miracle to go our way and we won the game but right then and there I never felt fully comfortable that this is the guy that is going to win a Super Bowl. It’s ok he got the team on the right track but I’m not going to sit back and let this guy make ridiculously bad late game decisions year after year. 

Who do you replace him with.  He turned around a miserable franchise.   4 playoffs in 5 years.  You want him gone if no SB next year?????

 

You may want to change your name to overreactbillsfan1.

 

We should follow the Steelers example for handling head coaches.  Changing head coaches every few years doesn't work.  We have a great coach.   He will continue to learn and develop. 

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1 hour ago, phypon said:

I understand your point, I really do.  I think he deserves 2 more years though.  I've been more harsh on the coordinators up to this point.  I do think McD should have taken over the D for this game.  I think (if he didn't) that if he didn't it was because he wanted to give Frasier a chance to prove himself because he's a HC'ing candidate.  Pure speculation on my part obviously.  I do think that Frasier should be gone after this one no matter what.  As for McD, I give him a 1 or 2 year pass.  This one really, really hurts. :( 

What makes you think he didn't take over? McD was fired by Reid for a reason. He only had 1 good scoring defense before he came to the Bills and that team got absolutely wrecked in the biggest game. He isn't the defensive guru that some people make him out to be. 

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5 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

Who do you replace him with.  He turned around a miserable franchise.   4 playoffs in 5 years.  You want him gone if no SB next year?????

 

You may want to change your name to overreactbillsfan1.

 

We should follow the Steelers example for handling head coaches.  Changing head coaches every few years doesn't work.  We have a great coach.   He will continue to learn and develop. 

I’m beyond pissed at the complete meltdown by the coaching in those 13 seconds but this is a good take.  But McDermott has to stop playing scared or we will never win the big one.  And same with Beane and not adding a piece to put us over the top.  Scared from top to bottom.  

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They’ll probably fire the ST coordinator as a sacrificial lamb but otherwise there won’t be any consequences from last night.

 

McDermott is Mike Zimmer with a better QB.  He’s well-organized and focused but lacks elite intelligence or strategic thinking.  That means he’ll need elite coordinators and he doesn’t have those right now although Daboll is close.  
 

McDermott’s natural tendency is to avoid risks and wait for the other team to mess up.  His players on defense have taken in that mentality - they would rather sit back and wait for the contact than aggressively attack the ball.  Hence getting dragged for five yards routinely. This is the personality of their coach: do your job, stay disciplined, hope for the best.

 

Frankly above all else it’s just - lame.

 

But at the end of the day, always remember these guys are basically high-achieving gym teachers.  

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5 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’m beyond pissed at the complete meltdown by the coaching in those 13 seconds but this is a good take.  But McDermott has to stop playing scared or we will never win the big one.  And same with Beane and not adding a piece to put us over the top.  Scared from top to bottom.  

Keep mind this is the first Job as HC and GM for McBeane.  They have done a great job so far, but they will keep improving.

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This is harder than many on this board seem to believe. 2 things are true, McDermott is a good coach…. And McDermott is a scared coach, who point blank period doesn’t trust his players to make plays until he is left with no other option. This game should have been in Buffalo, he coached terrified on MNF, lost to Jacksonville, and got boat raced by Carson Wentz. Every game he coaches waiting for the other team to make an error, instead of letting his players make plays. It’s how we lost those games above and how we lost tonight. The inexcusable 4th and 1 punt, the run call before it, many run plays half. The entire defensive scheme, 13 seconds most of all. All of it, was in the hopes that they would make the mistake. He coaches to take the game out of his players hands. The kind of mindset that just might be, good, but never good enough 

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15 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

What makes you think he didn't take over? McD was fired by Reid for a reason. He only had 1 good scoring defense before he came to the Bills and that team got absolutely wrecked in the biggest game. He isn't the defensive guru that some people make him out to be. 

I don't know if he took over or not.  Kind of said that in my post.  If he did take over, I hope we find out.  Would be good info to have.  On the flip side, if he did take over, we need a new DC more than ever.

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Just now, phypon said:

I don't know if he took over or not.  Kind of said that in my post.  If he did take over, I hope we find out.  Would be good info to have.  On the flip side, if he did take over, we need a new DC more than ever.

I don't think he would ever admit it. Harbough is one of the few coaches that openly talks about their mistakes. McD is more of a "we're not gonna talk about the specifics"

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2 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

What makes you think he didn't take over? McD was fired by Reid for a reason. He only had 1 good scoring defense before he came to the Bills and that team got absolutely wrecked in the biggest game. He isn't the defensive guru that some people make him out to be. 

 

Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Indy. Those losses, two at home, completely murdered this season. I don't think this game is as close if the Bills are at home. But there was some kind of dysfunction through the Tampa game. Maybe it the vaccine distractions. Maybe it was some personnel troubles on the OL. Maybe there were some other locker room dramatics. Whatever the case, yes, they smoked a number of the lesser teams on their schedule. But they were not physically prepared in the three games I listed first. And I'd also add that I think the coaching staff slow played a lot of the early season to mask their preferred play calls/formations/strategies.

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