What a Massive beat down!

[atlbillsfan1975]

56 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

My point being, the Pats even if needy at QB that year wouldn’t have drafted Allen.  They would have looked elsewhere, they damn sure wouldn’t have traded up to get him.   He doesn’t fit the style of O they run. Brady fit that style, as does Jones. Does that mean Jones will ever be as good as Allen? Nope. 
 

also Allen fans forget he didn’t blossom truly till they went out and spent on skill WR for year 2..  look at last year where did the Pats spend most of the money? On  2 TE and 2 middle of the road WR.  That wouldn’t have worked develop an Allen type.. They also beefed up the O line. (That would IMO help but not having WR WOULD KILL HIM in HIS rookie year.) 

 

So basically I’m bashing the GOAT coach and more importantly McDaniels. They wouldn’t have done what was needed to make a QB like Allen succeed. They will get the most out of a Jones style QB. 

You aren’t bashing your coaches at all. You are trying to talk yourself into believing Jones will be an adequate QB. 
Having said that, I wish you personally the best. We can agree to disagree about football and I suspect your motives. In the end it’s a game. Enjoy the off-season. See you next year. 

Edited January 16, 2022 by atlbillsfan1975

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

@PatsFanNH going for the opposing fan record of positive emoji's

 

@Zerovoltz better take notice

 

@Jimmy Spagnola well, third place will have to do

[PatsFanNH]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Everyone has. Andy Dalton 2.0.   Good luck with macnchz.  
 

Maybe the pats d will force us punt to once the next time we play.  Your boys have something to work towards.  Maybe they can move Jonnu Smith to DE and he can get within a couple inches of 17. 
 

 

Lol Barmore was on him but slipped right off. I don’t think that happens if Barmore is healthy. Outside of him on the line I saw zero pressure from anyone else.. the Pats have filed a missing persons report.. wondering where Judon been the last month and a half.. 

[ColoradoBills]

13 hours ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

Not every throw needs to be a zipped fast ball. And I have seen Jones throw some horrible passes before.

 

 

Ghost, seriously got a question.  In our past conversations you have been all in with BB as the GOAT and moving on from TB wasn't a

big deal.  Do you now think that BB letting TB go to FA was a bad decision?

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Lol Barmore was on him but slipped right off. I don’t think that happens if Barmore is healthy. Outside of him on the line I saw zero pressure from anyone else.. the Pats have filed a missing persons report.. wondering where Judon been the last month and a half.. 

Josh tends to slip off most sack attempts.  
 

yeah, it’s been nuts how Judon fell of a cliff the second he hurt himself trying to trip allen in the last matchup.

 

helluva player when he’s right.  

[Augie]

15 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

@PatsFanNH going for the opposing fan record of positive emoji's

 

@Zerovoltz better take notice

 

@Jimmy Spagnola well, third place will have to do

 

What about @Ice bowl 67? Let’s not leave out any of our illustrious visitors.

 

Having said that, I’m sure I’m forgetting many myself!  

 

Classy for @PatsFanNH to come in after taking a beating. We have been on the other end of that far too often and most of us would skulk away.  I don’t go to other teams boards, but if I did I’d want to be fair and even handed. 

[NewEra]

18 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

@PatsFanNH going for the opposing fan record of positive emoji's

 

@Zerovoltz better take notice

 

@Jimmy Spagnola well, third place will have to do

@Jimmy Spagnola ❤️ 

[WhoTom]

A friend of mine - a Packers fan - sent me this message today:

 

Quote

Hey, Tom! I was thinking about you as I watched the Bills offense go through the Patriots like a hot knife through butter.

 

[Punching Bag]

15 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Practice? My grandmother would have given the Bills a tougher time.. and she been dead for 20 years!! Lol (sorry that just went threw my head when you said that.. lol) 

 

And if you were not being so good natured I'd have said "Tougher than first time she participated in a ***** in locker room?  That is high standards!"

 

I do hear there is room in Bills Bandwagon.  You might need to start out though setting up folding tables.

[Ghost_002!]

On 1/16/2022 at 2:06 PM, ColoradoBills said:

 

Ghost, seriously got a question.  In our past conversations you have been all in with BB as the GOAT and moving on from TB wasn't a

big deal.  Do you now think that BB letting TB go to FA was a bad decision?

 

 

I don't think I have ever said he should of let him go. I understood the move but I never said I agreed with the move. But as I was just replying to another poster. Mac Jones  was not the problem Saturday night. It was the defense.

 

And BB is the GOAT his resume speaks for itself.

 

On 1/16/2022 at 11:11 AM, NewEra said:

Everyone has. Andy Dalton 2.0.   Good luck with macnchz.  
 

Maybe the pats d will force us punt to once the next time we play.  Your boys have something to work towards.  Maybe they can move Jonnu Smith to DE and he can get within a couple inches of 17. 
 

 

 

 

I am not worried. It's not going to take them 20 years to compete. Bills were excellent sat night, now can they win a ring? Good job proven you are the team to beat in the AFC East. Now can you make true history?

Edited January 17, 2022 by Ghost_002!

[Orlando Tim]

2 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

I don't think I have ever said he should of let him go. I understood the move but I never said I agreed with the move. But as I was just replying to another poster. Mac Jones  was not the problem Saturday night. It was the defense.

 

And BB is the GOAT his resume speaks for itself.

 

Anyone who says a guy that clearly cheated and  has been punished for cheating in unprecedented ways is the greatest clearly ranks winning over integrity. Seriously 4 of his 6 super bowl wins ended up causing major punishments to the Pats*, how do you argue that does not matter

[Shaw66]

On 1/15/2022 at 11:07 PM, PatsFanNH said:

 

A stronger arm? It was a perfect throw.. it was just a standout play by Hyde. (Agalor was in stride and he literally jumped up to grab it before it hit Agalor hands. Was a WOW play)

If Allen were throwing, Hyde would have been two steps away when the ball hit Aghalor's hands.  Hyde came almost halfway across the field for the ball.  

 

Mac's arm is minimally strong enough for the NFL.   He might have a good career, because he seems smart, disciplined, and accurate.  But arm strength will be a limitation for him.   

 

Of course, maybe he can train up to having a better arm.  Brady has much better arm strength now than in his early years. 

On 1/16/2022 at 1:58 PM, PatsFanNH said:

Lol Barmore was on him but slipped right off. I don’t think that happens if Barmore is healthy. Outside of him on the line I saw zero pressure from anyone else.. the Pats have filed a missing persons report.. wondering where Judon been the last month and a half.. 

Hey, Fan, gotta say I like when you drop in.   You always have good things to say.  Thanks. 

 

As for Judon, I don't know because I haven't watched him play much, but DEs get figured out fast in this league.  There is a one-year wonder almost every season.  That's probably who happened to Judon.  

 

Truth is, for most guys in the league, you have learn something new every season.   You've got to build a repertoire of moves and techniques, because everyone develops a book on skill players.  

[Ghost_002!]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Anyone who says a guy that clearly cheated and  has been punished for cheating in unprecedented ways is the greatest clearly ranks winning over integrity. Seriously 4 of his 6 super bowl wins ended up causing major punishments to the Pats*, how do you argue that does not matter

 

 

You realize he is universally regarded as that by his peers past n presence right?

 

 

Edited January 17, 2022 by Ghost_002!

[Orlando Tim]

Just now, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

You realize he is universally regarded as that by his peers past n presence right?

 

 

It is not universal- but why don't you think the cheating matters? He is feared because he has no integrity when it comes to the game. 

[Matt_In_NH]

I loved when they used the whole play clock to run the fake spike play …that was genius

10 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

On 1/15/2022 at 11:07 PM, PatsFanNH said:

 

If Allen were throwing, Hyde would have been two steps away when the ball hit Aghalor's hand

Absolutely correct.  However Jones is capable of making that play just has to be more on time.   Allen can be late and throw a laser beam like he did to Sanders 

On 1/16/2022 at 1:58 PM, PatsFanNH said:

Lol Barmore was on him but slipped right off. I don’t think that happens if Barmore is healthy. Outside of him on the line I saw zero pressure from anyone else.. the Pats have filed a missing persons report.. wondering where Judon been the last month and a half.. 

his jock is on the 40 yard line. 

[Ghost_002!]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

It is not universal- but why don't you think the cheating matters? He is feared because he has no integrity when it comes to the game. 

 

 

It's not universal? You want to go in any NFL circle and I am talking about players and coaches and test this?

 

If you truly think that's what actual players and coaches think, he is feared cause he lacks integrity..ha ha I am sorry my friend. You truly do not understand the NFL or professional sports..

[Shaw66]

3 minutes ago, mattynh said:

I loved when they used the whole play clock to run the fake spike play …that was genius

Absolutely correct.  However Jones is capable of making that play just has to be more on time.   Allen can be late and throw a laser beam like he did to Sanders 

That's a fair point.  As I said, I think Jones has good enough arm strength to play in the league, minimally good enough.   It always will limit him a bit, because as you say, he has to be quicker to pull the trigger.  That's why he won't be elite (unless he can improve his arm strength).  The ability to wait, which you get from having a strong arm, is valuable.  That extra split second allow the best QBs the ability to wait, and that means he has an extra split second to read a defender, to see the cut, to attack a small window. 

 

Having said all of that, every time I've seen Jones this year, I've been impressed.   It's hard to play QB in this league, and in one season he showed he can do it.  

[stinky finger]

32 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

I don't think I have ever said he should of let him go. I understood the move but I never said I agreed with the move. But as I was just replying to another poster. Mac Jones  was not the problem Saturday night. It was the defense.

 

And BB is the GOAT his resume speaks for itself.

 

 

 

I am not worried. It's not going to take them 20 years to compete. Bills were excellent sat night, now can they win a ring? Good job proven you are the team to beat in the AFC East. Now can you make true history?

 

Tell me about the master BB.

 

What the **** has he ever accomplished as a HC w/o TB?

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

8 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

It's not universal? You want to go in any NFL circle and I am talking about players and coaches and test this?

 

If you truly think that's what actual players and coaches think, he is feared cause he lacks integrity..ha ha I am sorry my friend. You truly do not understand the NFL or professional sports..

https://www.sportscasting.com/the-late-don-shula-considered-patriots-head-coach-bill-belichick-a-cheater/

 

That is only Don Shula who is universally thought of as a great coach and man but please keep running about universal.

[Ghost_002!]

23 minutes ago, inaugural balls said:

 

Tell me about the master BB.

 

What the **** has he ever accomplished as a HC w/o TB?

 

 

 

You realize great coaches win with great players right? Check bill Walsh without Joe Montana and come back to me.

 

You realize BB help develop Tom Brady, he wasn't a 10 top draft pick  whose just lived up to his potential. He developed into a great player with the coach's help as well.

 

18 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

https://www.sportscasting.com/the-late-don-shula-considered-patriots-head-coach-bill-belichick-a-cheater/

 

That is only Don Shula who is universally thought of as a great coach and man but please keep running about universal.

 

Ha ha...and BB is not recognized as that? Ha ha. Ok. We done here.

Edited January 17, 2022 by Ghost_002!

[NewEra]

55 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

I don't think I have ever said he should of let him go. I understood the move but I never said I agreed with the move. But as I was just replying to another poster. Mac Jones  was not the problem Saturday night. It was the defense.

 

And BB is the GOAT his resume speaks for itself.

 

 

 

I am not worried. It's not going to take them 20 years to compete. Bills were excellent sat night, now can they win a ring? Good job proven you are the team to beat in the AFC East. Now can you make true history?

Good question. Time will tell.  

[Orlando Tim]

7 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Ha ha...and BB is not recognized as that? Ha ha. Ok. We done here.

Good we agree that BB is universally recognized as a cheater, which is what the article was about 

[Ghost_002!]

11 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Good question. Time will tell.  

 

They definitely have a great chance this year, no doubt about it! Chiefs better not start slow against the Bills like they did the steelers. 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Good we agree that BB is universally recognized as a cheater, which is what the article was about 

 

 

Yea you know that is not what my post was about..but as you were...

Edited January 17, 2022 by Ghost_002!

[Orlando Tim]

4 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

Yea you know that is not what my post was about..but as you were...

The article was about BB cheating, what were you talking about? I agreed teams fear him.

[Ghost_002!]

24 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

The article was about BB cheating, what were you talking about? I agreed teams fear him.

 

 

If you go back to my original two post I replied to you with. You will know what my stance is. 

[Success]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

I am not worried. It's not going to take them 20 years to compete. Bills were excellent sat night, now can they win a ring? Good job proven you are the team to beat in the AFC East. Now can you make true history?

 

I have no doubt that Cowboys fans were saying the same thing in the '90's.

 

That doesn't mean the Pats will follow the same course - but they could go that route just as easily as a route back to contention.  If Belichick was younger, that wouldn't be the case. But how much longer will he coach?

 

And they're facing a very different AFC now.  There are some seriously good QB's throughout the AFC now - not like the days when it was just Brady and Manning, and maybe Rivers & Big Ben once in awhile.

 

We'll have to see how it goes. I'm personally glad the psychological dragon was vanquished this past weekend, and I'm looking forward to a normal division rivalry again.

 

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

You realize he is universally regarded as that by his peers past n presence right?

 

 

The fact the Belichick and Brady are so good makes them cheating even worse in my eyes.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

On 1/15/2022 at 11:09 PM, Coach Tuesday said:

Cheers.  I actually was impressed with Mac tonight - he wasn’t the problem.  Enjoy the offseason and thanks for being a class act.

 

lol. Yeah I was impressed by his deep balls 

 

the pass to Micah Hyde was perfect 👍🏻 

[Ghost_002!]

11 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

The fact the Belichick and Brady are so good makes them cheating even worse in my eyes.

 

 

I agree. I think it was stupid to be so ignorant to continue to do it after the memo came out (spy gate)

 

I really do not think much about the whole deflated balls cause plenty of QBs came out and said they all like the balls to be a certain way in regards to the air in them..

 

But I do believe Brady was lying about not knowing the balls had less air in them.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I have no doubt that Cowboys fans were saying the same thing in the '90's.

 

That doesn't mean the Pats will follow the same course - but they could go that route just as easily as a route back to contention.  If Belichick was younger, that wouldn't be the case. But how much longer will he coach?

 

And they're facing a very different AFC now.  There are some seriously good QB's throughout the AFC now - not like the days when it was just Brady and Manning, and maybe Rivers & Big Ben once in awhile.

 

We'll have to see how it goes. I'm personally glad the psychological dragon was vanquished this past weekend, and I'm looking forward to a normal division rivalry again.

 

 

 

I don't see it taken that long cause they were already in the playoffs just after 2 seasons. The organization knows what it's doing. Not every approach they get right but they are trending in the right direction right now 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Ghost_002!

[Warcodered]

7 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

I agree. I think it was stupid to be so ignorant to continue to do it after the memo came out (spy gate)

 

I really do not think much about the whole deflated balls cause plenty of QBs came out and said they all like the balls to be a certain way in regards to the air in them..

 

But I do believe Brady was lying about not knowing the balls had less air in them.

That's what soured me on Brady, I think the rule that he broke was stupid, but he's Tom ***** Brady why cheat over something so stupid.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

There’s nothing better than achieving PERFECTION

 

against a guy some people call the GOAT. 

[Ghost_002!]

9 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

That's what soured me on Brady, I think the rule that he broke was stupid, but he's Tom ***** Brady why cheat over something so stupid.

 

 

Smashing his phone was the worse....like come on, can you look anymore guilty!

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

There’s nothing better than achieving PERFECTION

 

against a guy some people call the GOAT. 

The fact that the big thing in his legacy as coach is being a defensive genius, and now he is in the record books as the coach that defended against the perfect offensive performance is just perfection.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Has NE filed charges against Micah yet for robbery 

 

Cuz that’s like grand larceny right there 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 1/15/2022 at 9:59 PM, PatsFanNH said:

Practice? My grandmother would have given the Bills a tougher time.. and she been dead for 20 years!! Lol (sorry that just went threw my head when you said that.. lol) 

 

I don't think you should undersell the Pats.  They're a good team.  You don't win 10 games in the NFL without being a good team.

 

Your dead grandmother is not a good team.

[Ghost_002!]

9 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

The fact that the big thing in his legacy as coach is being a defensive genius, and now he is in the record books as the coach that defended against the perfect offensive performance is just perfection.

 

 

But his resume is not gonna take a big hit. That's just gonna be a Stat not bigger than what he has done defensively in championship games...aka why he was call a genius in the first place.

 

I know detectors hate he is called that. But he earned it.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Has NE filed charges against Micah yet for robbery 

 

Cuz that’s like grand larceny right there 

 

 

 

LOL.  It's coming...right there...WAIT!  WHERE that football GO?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

LOL.  It's coming...right there...WAIT!  WHERE that football GO?

Taking candy from a baby 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

LOL.  It's coming...right there...WAIT!  WHERE that football GO?

Oh ***** did I drop it again?

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I don't think you should undersell the Pats.  They're a good team.  You don't win 10 games in the NFL without being a good team.

 

Your dead grandmother is not a good team.

lol I was talking that game. If I was being fair the secondary was in shambles missing 2 starters and having 2 practice squad guys in.. but the front 7 no idea where they vanished too.  It was by far the worst defensive effort I have ever seen by a Pats D in 30 years! And I watched the Pats v Bears SB. 
 

Hapless don’t get me wrong I’m happy with the season, and I wasn’t expecting a win but I did expect a better showing by the D. 
 

Hapless good luck the rest of the playoffs.. I think it will be tough for Buffalo next week .. but anything can happen.