Doc Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Looks like NATO will be sending fighter jets. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc said: Looks like NATO will be sending fighter jets. Green light has been given. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Green light has been given. Yes Putin is completely off the rails , now or never I was ok to give up the 2 provinces of Russian speakers and maybe Crimea but Putin has gone way too far and has to be stopped at all cost and given nothing. Edited March 6, 2022 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 hour ago, BillStime said: If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 4 hours ago, SCBills said: US backed the overthrow of a pro-Russia Ukrainian President. US funnels weapons into the country that are used against Russian separatists. US backed neo-nazi militia groups that were then integrated into the National Guard to fight Russian Separatists in the South & East of Ukraine. US leaders such as Adam Schiff, Lindsey Graham, John McCain and Amy Klobuchar all made comments about using Ukraine to fight Russia “over there” so we don’t have to fight them “over here”. Putin is evil for this full scale invasion, but why would he want to border a country who aligns with the Western aim is to weaken his country? It was always going to end up like this if we kept pushing Ukraine down this NATO rabbit hole, of which, we never had any intention of honoring - or defending. Putin waited until he thought the US leadership & NATO alliance was weakest and made his move. Clearly NATO has stepped up, but it’s too little/too late & Ukraine’s best hope is an Afghanistan-style insurgency for a decade, while their population is decimated, unless NATO goes to war with Russia. Trying to look at this situation objectively is sad and sickening. What we'll never know is if the invasion would have still occured had Ukraine vowed military neutrality and only economic partnership with the EU. But what we do know is that American politicians from both parties pushed NATO expansion, and Ukraine overwhelmingly voted for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Tiberius said: If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. If, if, & if. If I could run the 100M sprint three seconds faster I'd be the Olympic champion. Edited March 6, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. Since you're playing the "If" game (and poorly, I might add): "If Trump had been re-elected, Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine, making all the rest moot." But Joey and his idiot-boy son should definitely have been investigated for their corruption. Edited March 7, 2022 by Doc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: If, if, & if. If I could run the 100M sprint three seconds faster I'd be the Olympic champion. No ifs that he withheld the missiles. He did Then he got caught Don’t support fascism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 So, rather than just drill here, this dumpster fire President is going to simp around the world for oil from the Saudis, Iran and Venezuela… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) I'm not sure this three party agreement to get Mig 29's to Ukraine is going to be effective. Where are they going to base them? I cannot imagine that Ukrainian air bases are still operational, or would be within the time frame required. I'm unsure of the differences between Polish Mig variants and those provided to the Ukraine Air Force. Sometimes the differences are minor, sometimes they're not. Anyway, not sure this is going to matter. Edited March 7, 2022 by sherpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Russia just out here tagging in Belarussians and Syrians now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Interesting thread on all the things the Pentagon can’t (or won’t to be clear) verify that have been online and in certain media. 8 minutes ago, SCBills said: Russia just out here tagging in Belarussians and Syrians now.. I’m sure Syria is just dying to fight for Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: So, rather than just drill here, this dumpster fire President is going to simp around the world for oil from the Saudis, Iran and Venezuela… And to think, the only reason President CDC dropped....sorry.....paused the Covid protocols was because mid term polling for Democrats is atrocious Your United States government led by the Democrat party and the deep state ladies and gentlemen give them all big round of applause we can't hear you in the back really clap it up for these folks....give them a big hand!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: So, rather than just drill here, this dumpster fire President is going to simp around the world for oil from the Saudis, Iran and Venezuela… And in exchange, we'll probably send them more weapons to blow up Yemeni children. But hey, at least they aren't European kids. Right, CNN? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) Convincing people that the fight in Ukraine is about freedom and democracy is really rather sickening - especially after our white leftist racist elitists said it wasn't possible in countries that are majority brown. Sick racists. Sorry you don't sacrifice Crimea and allow Russia to escalate like this in a matter of less then a year, continue to cut and limit our own oil and gas production because you propped up Greta Thornburg like you did Zelensky in Ukraine, and suddenly claim the world must act. Nope. You are all failures. Canceling Putin and actual Russians all over the world is pathetic and itself anti-freedom. You're a weak group of losers who lost all trust and credibility during covid and the entire 4 years Trump was president who faced more scrutiny and attacks based on lies in a day by American mass media then we have given China in 2 years since Covid - and their essential take over of Hong Kong. And any Republican going along with this madness (they are because they are still neo cons or they're terrified of being canceled) can go pound sand. Edited March 7, 2022 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: Green light has been given. Green light? What I’d seen is we okd them to send their Soviet era fighters to Ukraine which we’d replace with soviet era American fighter planes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 So weird the media keeps posting pictures of Ukrainian military with Nazi symbolism. Again, this has nothing to do with whether this invasion was warranted due to Putin’s “de-nazification” claims. Clearly a majority of Ukraine is not Nazi, but it’s just comical that western media can’t address this. (Sonnengrad patch on uniform - addressed in comments) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Has Putin gone mad? Is it time to worry about worse case scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. what was this about? it sounds like a perfectly clear admission of threatening to hold US aid as blackmail. the exact thing you are talking about. why is this different? if it was blackmail then should it be. given the exact same standard for impeachment proceedings? if not, why the double standard? you are outraged by those actions right? Edited March 7, 2022 by Buffarukus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Buffarukus said: what was this about? it sounds like a perfectly clear admission of threatening to hold US aid as blackmail. the exact thing you are talking about. why is this different? if it was blackmail then should it be. given the exact same standard for impeachment proceedings? if not, why the double standard? you are outraged by those actions right? Ya sure, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 8 hours ago, Buffarukus said: what was this about? it sounds like a perfectly clear admission of threatening to hold US aid as blackmail. the exact thing you are talking about. why is this different? if it was blackmail then should it be. given the exact same standard for impeachment proceedings? if not, why the double standard? you are outraged by those actions right? Because Joey's just a swell guy who doesn't mean tweet. And therefore his actual extortion isn't as bad as Trump's alleged extortion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc said: Because Joey's just a swell guy who doesn't mean tweet. And therefore his actual extortion isn't as bad as Trump's alleged extortion. Trump is finished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump is finished. Not nearly as much as Joey is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Not nearly as much as Joey is. The President? Naw, he's the President. Trump, not so much Never will be again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Not that I trust Russia, but as long by "cease military action" they mean stop fighting and not permanently disband the military, this is not a terrible outcome. Ukraine could end this madness if they take this deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 Raytheon stock up 34% this year https://www.google.com/finance/quote/RTX:NYSE?window=1Y Guess what they make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Raytheon stock up 34% this year https://www.google.com/finance/quote/RTX:NYSE?window=1Y Guess what they make Covid vaccines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Westside said: Covid vaccines? Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Defense, military tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Convincing people that the fight in Ukraine is about freedom and democracy is really rather sickening - especially after our white leftist racist elitists said it wasn't possible in countries that are majority brown. Sick racists. Sorry you don't sacrifice Crimea and allow Russia to escalate like this in a matter of less then a year, continue to cut and limit our own oil and gas production because you propped up Greta Thornburg like you did Zelensky in Ukraine, and suddenly claim the world must act. Nope. You are all failures. Canceling Putin and actual Russians all over the world is pathetic and itself anti-freedom. You're a weak group of losers who lost all trust and credibility during covid and the entire 4 years Trump was president who faced more scrutiny and attacks based on lies in a day by American mass media then we have given China in 2 years since Covid - and their essential take over of Hong Kong. And any Republican going along with this madness (they are because they are still neo cons or they're terrified of being canceled) can go pound sand. seek help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 45 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Raytheon stock up 34% this year Guess what they make And it's really good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Raytheon stock up 34% this year https://www.google.com/finance/quote/RTX:NYSE?window=1Y Guess what they make Nobody ever said the perpetual US government war machine was bad for the defense business. And the defense industry is where former Pentagon generals and procurement officers find work after "retirement". As they say "thank you for your service" and here's your $500K a year board seat. Quid Pro Quo I think is what its called. You know what else is up? All the energy ETF's and funds, commodity stocks, and precious metals positions (and emerging market funds for later) I started to accumulate right after the inauguration in January 2021. Because I concluded early on that Uncle Joe and his crew of misfits and morons would screw every up real good which would result in some higher prices, chaos, and lots of economic, social, and political disorder. And I was right. Coming next by Summer should be things like food riots and social disorder in lots of countries around the world when food prices surge higher still and food scarcity hits. 21st century Democrats.. the party of chaos. What a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, Doc said: Not nearly as much as Joey is. You two deserve each other. Thanks for trashing up the thread. I think we need another 30 back and forths on Trump vs Biden in here since we don't get it enough elsewhere in PPP. Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: Nobody ever said the perpetual US government war machine was bad for the defense business. And the defense industry is where former Pentagon generals and procurement officers find work after "retirement". As they say "thank you for your service" and here's your $500K a year board seat. Quid Pro Quo I think is what its called. You know what else is up? All the energy ETF's and funds, commodity stocks, and precious metals positions (and emerging market funds for later) I started to accumulate right after the inauguration in January 2021. Because I concluded early on that Uncle Joe and his crew of misfits and morons would screw every up real good which would result in some higher prices, chaos, and lots of economic, social, and political disorder. And I was right. Coming next by Summer should be things like food riots and social disorder in lots of countries around the world when food prices surge higher still and food scarcity hits. 21st century Democrats.. the party of chaos. What a mess. I thought the food riots and downfall of civilization were coming from Covid-related shortages. Is this where you conspiracy guys are going with that specter now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, sherpa said: And it's really good stuff. That’s why it’s in hot demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Nobody ever said the perpetual US government war machine was bad for the defense business. And the defense industry is where former Pentagon generals and procurement officers find work after "retirement". As they say "thank you for your service" and here's your $500K a year board seat. Quid Pro Quo I think is what its called. You know what else is up? All the energy ETF's and funds, commodity stocks, and precious metals positions (and emerging market funds for later) I started to accumulate right after the inauguration in January 2021. Because I concluded early on that Uncle Joe and his crew of misfits and morons would screw every up real good which would result in some higher prices, chaos, and lots of economic, social, and political disorder. And I was right. Coming next by Summer should be things like food riots and social disorder in lots of countries around the world when food prices surge higher still and food scarcity hits. 21st century Democrats.. the party of chaos. What a mess. I do see this coming as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: The President? Naw, he's the President. Trump, not so much Never will be again The only thing we know for certain is Joey will never be President again. Worst President ever and his brain is mush already, never mind in 2 more years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc said: The only thing we know for certain is Joey will never be President again. Worst President ever and his brain is mush already, never mind in 2 more years. You think Putin will be a victim of this war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: You think Putin will be a victim of this war? Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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