Doc Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Tiberius said: LOL, that's funny coming from a Trump supporter 🤣 No, what's funny is you saying Joey's admin so far has been "mostly good." It's been a train wreck and there haven't been any fake scandals to push by the MSM. He's been a disaster all on his own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Doc said: No, what's funny is you saying Joey's admin so far has been "mostly good." It's been a train wreck and there haven't been any fake scandals to push by the MSM. He's been a disaster all on his own. In your mind it is, yes. But that says nothing about reality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: In your mind it is, yes. But that says nothing about reality I guess that's why his approval rating is in the toilet. Again, without fake scandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, Doc said: I guess that's why his approval rating is in the toilet. Again, without fake scandals. Inflation, not his fault. Leaders are tough and can handle the tough situations. He’s fine. He can beat Trump AGAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Inflation, not his fault. Leaders are tough and can handle the tough situations. He’s fine. He can beat Trump AGAIN Even if it were true that inflation isn't his fault, it doesn't matter. The buck stops with him. So does the continued Wuhan pandemic which he not did not stop, but which is no better, if not worse under him despite vaccines and treatments. But he's not running again and the Dems have no one else. I hope Trump steps aside, but even if he doesn't, he'll beat whoever the Dems put out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Even if it were true that inflation isn't his fault, it doesn't matter. The buck stops with him. So does the continued Wuhan pandemic which he not did not stop, but which is no better, if not worse under him despite vaccines and treatments. But he's not running again and the Dems have no one else. I hope Trump steps aside, but even if he doesn't, he'll beat whoever the Dems put out there. Sure, vote him out of office for something that isn't his fault, go ahead and try, lol Hope you guys run Trump again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 21 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: The problem here really boils down to if Putin were to do this, what's next? He may just be posturing but seeing what happened in the Crimea and there's been constant fighting in the East of Ukraine this could be something serious. Poland next? He could BS that there are plenty of Ruskies there too. Belarus would be next, but Lithuania is the real prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sure, vote him out of office for something that isn't his fault, go ahead and try, lol You do realize that's how Trump got voted out of office right? It's may not be the leader's fault something happened but it's the leader's job to either fix it or assure the public all is well. He's done neither. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 34 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sure, vote him out of office for something that isn't his fault, go ahead and try, lol Hope you guys run Trump again You do realize if there were an election today Biden would not win right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 34 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sure, vote him out of office for something that isn't his fault, go ahead and try, lol Hope you guys run Trump again The old bastard crapped his pants in front of the pope!!! No one but brain dead people like you are going to vote for him in 2024! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, Westside said: The old bastard crapped his pants in front of the pope!!! No one but brain dead people like you are going to vote for him in 2024! LOL 20 minutes ago, aristocrat said: You do realize if there were an election today Biden would not win right? How long have you been following politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: LOL How long have you been following politics? How long have you hated America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Sure, vote him out of office for something that isn't his fault, go ahead and try, lol Hope you guys run Trump again I hope you guys run Biden again, or even Kamala and/or Mayor Pete (because they literally have no one else). The defeat will be epic, no matter who runs against them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: I hope you guys run Biden again, or even Kamala and/or Mayor Pete (because they literally have no one else). The defeat will be epic, no matter who runs against them. As long as the Republicans run someone who just points his finger at this ***** show and says "do you want that?" Unfortunately they likely won't. I have hopes that DeSantis would be the nominee. He can point to FL and places like CA/OR/NY and just say "do you want this or that?" Your choice. If it was presented that simply it would be very interesting to see how it is received by the electorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Chef Jim said: As long as the Republicans run someone who just points his finger at this ***** show and says "do you want that?" Unfortunately they likely won't. I have hopes that DeSantis would be the nominee. He can point to FL and places like CA/OR/NY and just say "do you want this or that?" Your choice. If it was presented that simply it would be very interesting to see how it is received by the electorate. Huh? Of course they will. What do you think they'll run on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 30 minutes ago, Doc said: Huh? Of course they will. What do you think they'll run on? Seriously?? You have a hell of a lot more faith in the R's than I do. They'll probably run on Biden being old and senile. Great........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 55 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Seriously?? You have a hell of a lot more faith in the R's than I do. They'll probably run on Biden being old and senile. Great........ There’s no need to talk about Joey. He’s not running again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Do they have to mask and socially distance when they invade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Do they have to mask and socially distance when they invade? Good point. Zelinsky should unleash the administrative super-weapon and proclaim a vaccine mandate that requires anyone entering Ukraine must provide proof of vaccination. That should keep those Russians forces out. It might take Putin several weeks to produce enough fake vaccine passports. I suggest we send soon to be former NYC Mayor Bill DiBlasio over there to act as an experienced adviser on how to get people to leave a political jurisdiction. Who needs troops, tanks, and assault weapons when you have mandates? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 20 hours ago, Westside said: How long have you hated America? I'm not a Trump supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: I'm not a Trump supporter. You are a Marxist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 Just now, Westside said: You are a Marxist Lol, liar. Why you lie, bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Just now, Tiberius said: Lol, liar. Why you lie, bro? Why do you lie? You know you hate people being free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Westside said: Why do you lie? You know you hate people being free. Because I support Omabacare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lol, liar. Why you lie, bro? What's good for the goose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Biden says US troops in Ukraine are off the table but promises withering sanctions if Russia invades https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/biden-putin-us-troops/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, ALF said: Biden says US troops in Ukraine are off the table but promises withering sanctions if Russia invades https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/biden-putin-us-troops/index.html We all know it’s off the table, but why would you feel it’s important to tell the world that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 53 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: We all know it’s off the table, but why would you feel it’s important to tell the world that? It's what isn't mentioned. CIA. Weapons. Air power. Missiles. Battlefield intel (from satellites and the air) IMO, Russians don't care about sanctions from the West because Europe is desperate for Russian energy, Russia is in OPEC, and the country makes its money off its energy and weapons sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 38 minutes ago, dpberr said: It's what isn't mentioned. CIA. Weapons. Air power. Missiles. Battlefield intel (from satellites and the air) IMO, Russians don't care about sanctions from the West because Europe is desperate for Russian energy, Russia is in OPEC, and the country makes its money off its energy and weapons sales. All true. But individual wealthy and powerful Russians care a whole lot if sanctions hit them in the pocketbook or disrupt their jet-setting way of life. One constant: they amass wealth and power (mostly through graft and shady dealings) in Russia, but they really can't stand to have to LIVE in Russia, at least not most of the time. So there's a little self-interest here that moderates the behavior of their king Putin, and we have to depend on that to keep him from flying off the deep end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 46 minutes ago, dpberr said: It's what isn't mentioned. CIA. Weapons. Air power. Missiles. Battlefield intel (from satellites and the air) IMO, Russians don't care about sanctions from the West because Europe is desperate for Russian energy, Russia is in OPEC, and the country makes its money off its energy and weapons sales. Disagree completely. The oil card has been played. Oil is plentiful and massive amounts can be easily brought online. The Russians haven't nearly the power that is ascribed to them. They simply don't understand that until they are hit over the head with their lack of perceived strength. It has happened many time before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Where’s Trump when we desperately need him? Stop the madness! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Where’s Trump when we desperately need him? Stop the madness! I’m still waiting for @Tiberius and his plan for this thread he started. So far I guess it’s: 1. Biden is not Trump; 2. The US should lead; 3. Biden is not Trump; Seems to me there would be more, given he started the thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) There are people who either make things happen, let things happen or say "what happened?" I think we know who we elected. Biden confused.jfif Edited December 8, 2021 by Irv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’m still waiting for @Tiberius and his plan for this thread he started. So far I guess it’s: 1. Biden is not Trump; 2. The US should lead; 3. Biden is not Trump; Seems to me there would be more, given he started the thread. My plan? 11 minutes ago, Irv said: There are people who either make things happen, let things happen or say "what happened?" I think we know who we elected. Biden confused.jfif 28.84 kB · 0 downloads At least this guy isn't in charge anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’m still waiting for @Tiberius and his plan for this thread he started. So far I guess it’s: 1. Biden is not Trump; 2. The US should lead; 3. Biden is not Trump; Seems to me there would be more, given he started the thread. Where is Biden leading? He threatens Russia with sanctions. Serious sanctions. Anyone think this threat is keeping the Kremlin leadership up at night? So what will Russia do? They will respond by harming our "allies" in Europe. So what's the incentive over time for western European countries to line up in support of the program when they're consistently being negatively impacted and being told to subjugate their national interests in order to support US policy objectives? Putin's end game here isn't to invade Ukraine. The country is a liability and not a prized asset. His immediate concern is keeping NATO forces off his border. Biden has stated he won't commit US forces to the defense of Ukraine. He's already tipped his hand. Putin's ultimate game is to drive a wedge between the US and Western European countries by creating a divergences of interests between the parties. And over time creating the environment where Europeans see their interests more closely aligned with Russia than the U.S. Which will result in driving the U.S. out of Europe and uniting Western Europe and Russia into an economic alliance. And in the process marginalizing U.S. interests and power. That's the objective. Its the same game he's playing in the Middle East with the Saudi's and Iranians. Isolate and marginalize U.S. interests around the globe without firing a shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: My plan? At least this guy isn't in charge anymore Why? Because you’d rather be talking about going into another stupid war…again? Really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: My plan? At least this guy isn't in charge anymore That’s awesome. And rather ironic. Someone told you that Trump was in Putin’s pocket, and like a multi-level marketing participant you bought it wholesale, and immediately sold to your downline marketing team to build your pipeline. So, Trump leaves office. The problem is now, you’re gobbling up memes of Trump harassing Putin, harassing him, grabbing him and preventing him from moving forward and you think it means the opposite. Meanwhile, regardless of Trump and his approach, Biden is in office, you think he’s awesome but Putin is treating him like the **** Biden has repeatedly bragged about being. If Biden had at least the tenacity to treat Putin like the Coppertone kid, Putin wouldn’t be dragging his nuts across Biden’s carpet. Then again, Biden may be setting it all up for military engagement because that’s the traditional establishment approach. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Everyone saw what he would do: nothing of significance. Shocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/5/2021 at 7:59 AM, Tiberius said: What should the US response be? https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2021/11/20/russia-preparing-to-attack-ukraine-by-late-january-ukraine-defense-intelligence-agency-chief/ Maybe he should draw a line and dear him to cross it? Like Obama did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Biden is compromised. He does what he is told, just another useful idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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