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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

More accurate and meaningful stats: The Bills are 2nd in PPG on offense, the Pats 7th.  The Bills lead the Pats in rushing yds and passing yards per game.  The Bills are 1st in PPG on defense, the Pats 2nd. 

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2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The drum that the Talking Heads have been beating, pretty much since the Tennessee game but intensified since the loss to the Jaguars and then the Colts, is that "too much of Buffalo's offense runs through Josh Allen". 

 

Now, there's some truth to this.  It's true for other teams as well, but no one seems to bring up the same qualifier: no one is saying "the Ravens aren't a balanced team because too much of their offense runs through Lamar Jackson" even though if you take out his 707 yds the Ravens rushing offense would drop to 29th on the NFL, just as the Bills would drop to 31st.  Instead we have announcers mercilessly washing them about how no one can tackle Lamar Jackson (because the Browns couldn't), when I could go on Youtube and find film of some teams sacking Jackson Over. and Over. and Over. in the same game. 

The fact is, so much of the Ravens offense running through LJ is a flaw, as much as so much of the Bills offense running through Allen.  It creates a vulnerability - any time there's a gap in a team's game, it's a lever opposing DCs can exploit.

 

The bottom line is, we lost to the Jaguars in an embarrassing fashion, and we're going to be wearing the Dunce cap in the media corner  and living it down (if we can) for a while.  And I'm OK with that.  "Buffalo vs Everybody", Baby.

Great post and breakdown.👍

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1 hour ago, Bubba Gump said:

Mac Jones gonna look like garbage Monday night. Weather gonna be a huge factor. Lake snow and strong winds gonna be a blowin during the game. I can't wait to sit there and watch him crap his pants. Has he ever played in sideways snow??? Bring it on Lake Erie!!.

I agree if we shut down the run they’re fu@£ing DONE !!! 

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1 hour ago, Bubba Gump said:

Mac Jones gonna look like garbage Monday night. Weather gonna be a huge factor. Lake snow and strong winds gonna be a blowin during the game. I can't wait to sit there and watch him crap his pants. Has he ever played in sideways snow??? Bring it on Lake Erie!!.

I like the positivity. However, I'm not so sure the weather will hurt him greatly. I think he hands off the ball often and he doesn't throw the ball past 20 yards. The Pats offense thrives on short quick passes. If anything the wind and weather hurts the Bills more. 

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2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I like the positivity. However, I'm not so sure the weather will hurt him greatly. I think he hands off the ball often and he doesn't throw the ball past 20 yards. The Pats offense thrives on short quick passes. If anything the wind and weather hurts the Bills more. 


Id rather not have a weather game, but it would be interesting to see Mac play in the elements.   I know it was cold with some flurries in Foxboro last weekend, but has he played in a cold/wind/wet game yet?   I know he didn’t down in Bama. 

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2 hours ago, eball said:

I've got one thing to say to all of our "friends" visiting from Cheatersville this week.  Enjoy your stay, and don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya on Monday night around 11:30.

Agree...and there are a few resident "Bills Fans" that post here that they are more than welcome to take with them😂

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7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

While the Titans didn't slow our offense down overall, they did stop it at critical points, in the red zone leading to INTs and not TDs.

 

 

Pretty much.

 

If a team scored 31 points against us would you say "we slowed their offense down?"  

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Just now, Scott7975 said:

If a team scored 31 points against us would you say "we slowed their offense down?"  

 

Depends.  If

-they had 5 Red zone trips but only came away with TDs on 2 of those trips (penalties no factor on 4)

-we stuffed them on "and short" twice

-we finished with more points, including a TD directly following a turnover

 

....then I would think that's fair to say.  Certainly would be correct that our defense impacted their game.

 

Would you not agree?

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2 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:

Mac Jones gonna look like garbage Monday night. Weather gonna be a huge factor. Lake snow and strong winds gonna be a blowin during the game. I can't wait to sit there and watch him crap his pants. Has he ever played in sideways snow??? Bring it on Lake Erie!!.

Their defense is solid. Barring a crazy game from the football gods, this is gonna be tight. It’ll come down to the kickers and I love me some Bass 

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2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

I’m wondering if it’s possible that he can play if he is vaccinated and tests negative by Monday? 

 

It's possible.  According to NFL's Chief Medical Officer Allen Stills, 20% of vaccinated players who have tested positive return in less than 10 days.

Maths say that means 80% of them don't return in less than 10 days, although overall he says they still return more quickly after less severe illness. (Note that I'm specifically talking about what the NFL's CMO says about NFL players here, and don't shoot off general comments, 'K?)

 

They need

-no symptoms in 48 hrs

-two negative tests 24 hrs apart

 

It's the latter that's apparently the problem

 

After 10 days (and no symptoms for 48 hrs) elapse, they are no longer required to test negative.

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2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Luck would be squeaking by and eeking out close wins in the final minutes every game.

 

When you are outscoring teams 35-10 on average every week it has little to do with other teams injuries and a lot to do with talent, coaching, etc.

 

Belichik is a wartime coach and his teams simply don't make the type of mistakes you are seeing from the Bills week in and week out.

 

Either you lack comprehension skills or you didnt read his post fully.  That wasnt the luck he was talking about.  He was talking about playing The Titans missing their offense, The Browns missing their offense and the Falcons missing one of 2 of their best offensive players.

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8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Depends.  If

-they had 5 Red zone trips but only came away with TDs on 2 of those trips (penalties no factor on 4)

-we stuffed them on "and short" twice

-we finished with more points, including a TD directly following a turnover

 

....then I would think that's fair to say.  Certainly would be correct that our defense impacted their game.

 

Would you not agree?

 

I would never say an offense was slowed down after scoring 31 points unless they usually score like 40+.  I don't care how the points were scored.  Hardly ever do most teams score TDs every drive.

 

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6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's possible.  According to NFL's Chief Medical Officer Allen Stills, 20% of vaccinated players who have tested positive return in less than 10 days.

 

They need

-no symptoms in 48 hrs

-two negative tests 24 hrs apart

 

It's the latter that's apparently the problem

 

After 10 days (and no symptoms for 48 hrs) elapse, they are no longer required to test negative.

The Patriots wouldn’t cheat and use someone’s positive test so Duggar can play. There above doing something like that aren’t they? 🤭

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1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I would never say an offense was slowed down after scoring 31 points unless they usually score like 40+.  I don't care how the points were scored.  Hardly ever do most teams score TDs every drive.

 

Well, the Bills had indeed scored an average of >40 points per game the previous 3 games (43,40,38); 35 points the week before that.  So....

 

And no, teams don't score TDs on every drive.  But the best teams have red-zone TD % of 70% or up.  The Bills are currently tied for 11th at 62%.  The worst team in the league is currently 43%.

 

So when the Bills came away with 2 TDs on 5 red-zone trips, they were below the league worst and below their own average performance (40% vs 60%).

 

I'd call that being slowed, You do You though.

 

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

 

LOL

1) when Belichick praises a player, it typically means he feels he's spotted a flaw

2) I read this and it reminds me of the joke about how it's impossible it is to praise someone in Yiddish.  It comes across as implying that he started at a very low level and Belichick didn't think much of his chances to get better.

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