Pretty good summation from Cover1

[Hapless Bills Fan]

https://www.cover1.net/buffalo-bills-jacksonville-jaguars-loss/

Article by David Faux

 

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We’ll discuss the few inspiring aspects of this game, inquire about a litany of topics, explore a player that requires a better performance, and dive right into all the irksome aspects of this game for the Bills

 

Inspire: 

Bass

Defense

 

Enquire:

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Last week it was clear the Bills wanted to run the ball early, set up shorter third-down situations, and try to set up bigger plays down the field. It didn’t work, so the Bills adjusted to the Dolphins, and scored 23 points in the second half, and won the game quite easily. In today’s game against the Jaguars, it’s very unclear as to what the plan was, and what adjustments were or weren’t made after halftime.

 

I can not disagree

 

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But as any good football mind will tell you, the offense will only go as far as the OL will take them, and the Bills are struggling largely because of their poor play along the line. But the question should be asked, and likely will be answered but those of us here at Cover 1: what is the identity of this offense? What do you do to help your OL that is clearly out of sorts? How do you protect the football better down the stretch, especially when the defense is creating turnovers consistently?

 

Bobby Johnson, he’s looking at you:

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Boettger and Ford gave up constant pressure to a Jags defense that simply isn’t good. Unsure if that’s an accurate assessment? Consider: Taven Bryan had 3.5 career sacks coming into this game against the Bills, and he finished with two and seemed to be in the backfield on a regular basis. The Bills have talked about and demonstrated their high standards before, and it might be time to see if Bobby Johnson is meeting that standard given the poor play of the OL.

 

Even with injuries factored in, Johnson has shown little in terms of developing the OL. Ike Boettger is a favorite of Johnson’s, and he struggled all day and had the critical false start that moved the Bills out of the aforementioned fourth-and-two situation. Dion Dawkins gave up a sack to Jaguars DE Josh Allen, who also had an INT and a fumble recovered on the day. Daryl Williams seems to be struggling after being swapped back out to RT due to Spencer Brown’s injury. Simply put, the Bills’ OL is a problem, and will continue to be a problem for the rest of the season.

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

In terms of offensive line coaching, I have to think the miscommunications and mistakes on assignments have to be on coaching. 
 

I have never seen so many mental errors by our line in a single game. They get confused by stunts. They

get confused by disguised pressure. I still have no idea what Darryl Williams was doing out there today on a number of plays where he blocked no one. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

In terms of offensive line coaching, I have to think the miscommunications and mistakes on assignments have to be on coaching. 
 

I have never seen so many mental errors by our line in a single game. They get confused by stunts. They

get confused by disguised pressure. I still have no idea what Darryl Williams was doing out there today on a number of plays where he blocked no one. 

 

I’m kind of going there.  I don’t like to put stuff on coaching, but other OLs seem more able to handle disguised pressure and stunts, and the word seems to be out there that is the way to make the Bills OL sieve-like

[LeGOATski]

6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

In terms of offensive line coaching, I have to think the miscommunications and mistakes on assignments have to be on coaching. 
 

I have never seen so many mental errors by our line in a single game. They get confused by stunts. They

get confused by disguised pressure. I still have no idea what Darryl Williams was doing out there today on a number of plays where he blocked no one. 

Communication.

 

I was talking about this with someone else after the Miami game last week. The Bills OL often seems to fail in communicating.

[marky]

What's there to communicate? One of the tackles, I think Dawkins, did a Mike Williams impression on pass blocking, head down, about to go under like the Titanic. Three lean into one nose tackle whose given up on the play, and a blitzer just loops around them. DBs should teach them how to hold and get away with it.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Communication.

 

I was talking about this with someone else after the Miami game last week. The Bills OL often seems to fail in communicating.

 

Which is all the more vexing because they were talking up “continuity’ on the line as so important.

Of course, we have different guys in different positions, but they’ve known each other for more than a season, they need to figure this out

 

 

[JoPoy88]

13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I’m kind of going there.  I don’t like to put stuff on coaching, but other OLs seem more able to handle disguised pressure and stunts, and the word seems to be out there that is the way to make the Bills OL sieve-like

Sad to say but yeah, this. The OL is rough this year and it seems, unbelievably, like it’s getting worse.

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Which is all the more vexing because they were talking up “continuity’ on the line as so important.

Of course, we have different guys in different positions, but they’ve known each other for more than a season, they need to figure this out

 

 

Yeah. My brother reminded me today that this was the same starting OL as last year. Minus Boettger though, I think. 

 

I'm not against pointing the finger at the coaching.

[billsherd]

OL has been a problem. Last year they were calling less holding calls and no fans in the stand helped with communication.  Last year also OL was bad. 

[MJS]

The line is a problem for sure. Let's hope they can get some things figured out, get healthy, and have a bounce back.

 

This oline has had good games in the past and they can in the future too. But, we've also seen them struggle before and this is probably the worst I've seen this oline group perform in a game. It was brutal. And the worst thing was they ALL chose today to have their off game. None of them were good (not totally sure about Morse, but I know the other four struggled).

 

Let's see how these coaches address the problem going forward.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

13 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Yeah. My brother reminded me today that this was the same starting OL as last year. Minus Boettger though, I think. 

 

I'm not against pointing the finger at the coaching.

 

Not really.  

We had Boettger in at LG a good part of the season - 9 games towards the end

We had Mongo in at RG

Ford basically didn’t play after game 6 and went on IR game 9

 

Some of the same players just don’t seem to be playing to the same level - Dawkins, Williams, Mongo

 

But I think part of it is that the tape is out on how to mess with our OL effectively

That does point at something the coaches need to address and adjust

 

[Mark Vader]

48 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Communication.

 

I was talking about this with someone else after the Miami game last week. The Bills OL often seems to fail in communicating.

I have not seen this mentioned, but what really struck me was that Jacksonville timed their blitzes so perfectly.

 

They knew when Allen was going to snap the ball, because he snapped the ball almost always right before the play clock was about to expire.

 

The Jaguars saw this and the defenders were always there on the blitz, and our O-line was constantly overwhelmed by it.

[Big Turk]

57 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I’m kind of going there.  I don’t like to put stuff on coaching, but other OLs seem more able to handle disguised pressure and stunts, and the word seems to be out there that is the way to make the Bills OL sieve-like

 

Kind of reminds me back a few years ago when they couldn't pick up stunts or T-E games to save their life

[Richard Noggin]

21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Ford basically didn’t play after game 6 and went on IR game 9

 

Do we all agree now that Cody Ford is not NFL-caliber? (Which isn't to suggest most of you were unaware of this. I simply wish to find consensus that part of the problem is that this high value asset has proven now to be a bust, but not before at least factoring into management's LACK of aggressive offseason upgrades to the interior O-line.)

 

 

 

[BobbyC81]

38 minutes ago, billsherd said:

OL has been a problem. Last year they were calling less holding calls and no fans in the stand helped with communication.  Last year also OL was bad. 

There were many times last season that Josh had forever to throw that I would rewind to see how much time he had.  On those plays he had between 7 to 9 secs back in the pocket.  The pass blocking was awesome.  This season, I’m not sure if I’ve seen one of those instances.

 

The pass protection has been a problem all season and some of us have been criticizing the empty backfield.  There was one game a few weeks ago where Miss was in the backfield a lot on passing downs and Gilliam also was being used as an additional blocker.  Why didn’t they do that today when clearly the protection was a problem?  I know Moss got hurt but they hadn’t had him in there prior to that.  Was Gilliam even active?
 

It was a huge positive when the free agents Feliciano and Williams resigned.  Now it looks like poor spending.  

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

McBeane letting go of Teller, forcing Ford in and releasing Spain, and drafting inactive Basham over Creed Humphrey is the difference. Make different decisions there, and we're probably sitting here 8-0.

 

Nothing on this team is perfect, but the offensive line is clearly the problem.

[vincec]

7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

https://www.cover1.net/buffalo-bills-jacksonville-jaguars-loss/

Article by David Faux

 

 

Inspire: 

Bass

Defense

 

Enquire:

 

I can not disagree

 

 

Bobby Johnson, he’s looking at you:

 

Dawkins, Feliciano and Williams have all regressed since last season. So you have to look at the OL coach and ask some questions. There may be individual explanations, but all three? That would be a heck of a coincidence without coaching issues.

[Beast]

Not just pass blocking….I’ve never seen a team struggle so mightily to pick up short yardage situations in my life. It feels like a monumental task to pick up a third or fourth and one.  And that’s a team that actually carries a fullback on their roster. You’d think they be one of the better teams.

Edited November 8, 2021 by Beast

[Pete]

Spend every draft pick on offense!

we need stud RB.

we need LG, RG, RT

we need WR to take top off defense 

 

those are the 5 biggest needs on Bills IMO

Edited November 8, 2021 by Pete

[Scott7975]

Article is spot on.  Ive been saying this all season long.  When there are 7 in coverage and the line cant block 4 guys for more than 2-3 seconds then you aren't going to move the ball.  Especially when there is no threat to run whatsoever.  Its astounding how bad the line is at pass blocking that they are even worse at run blocking. 

 

I do think that is at least in part on coaching.  I can't believe that we have so many bad guys.  Other teams plug and play no names all the time and they still do a good job.  Hell half the time our own defense is playing back up line men and they still don't get sacks or run stops.