Matt_In_NH Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I noticed that Allen is currently ranked #6 in QBR and #14 in Passer Rating. I've never been a huge fan of either but now, more than ever, I question how they rank QBs. Allen is the offensive centerpiece of the highest scoring team in the NFL. Yet he's not a top five QB? Maybe not top 10? Maybe just average? I get it. His completion percentage isn't what it should be. And there's been some really good QB play this year so other guys get ranked higher. Still, the goal of any QB is top put points on the board. Allen does that better than anyone. It's worth mentioning that the Bills don't run a balanced offense. It's a QB-centric offense. When we do run, it's either because the D is selling out to stop the pass and/or to remind the D we actually have RBs who we hand the brick to now and then. Or we're letting Josh run the ball. At the beginning and end of the day, this offense is about Josh Allen. And despite being the driving force of the most prolific offense in the NFL this season, the ranking systems don't rate Allen as a top tier QB. Somehow the rating systems should evaluate how well a QB moves his team down the field and into the end zone (or FG position). Completion percentage doesn't tell the whole store. Nor yardage totals. Nor yards per attempt. Nor TD and INT percentages. If Passer Rating and QBR don't in some way measure points produced by a QB, what good are they? Because that's what a coach - or fan - really wants to know. How well does a QB lead his team to paydirt? Allen is currently the best at that. And the rating systems should reflect that. I think you are taking the #6/#14 a little too literal. If you prefer to rank QB's based on team points scored per game or team points scored per play or something, go for it. Not sure a lot of people will back that approach. You say Allen scores points better than anyone, is that true? I know the Bills are leading in points but what about the number of plays each player has had, compare to at bats in baseball. There are things out of a QB's control that affects points too, such as their defense, if you have a crappy defense that gives up long time possession drives you might not score as much as a team with a lesser QB who has the best defense. Rating and QBR are not perfect and never have been but they are useful, just not the end all. Those are based on stats. Stats are affected by many things. For instance, does QBR take into account that 3 of Allen's 5 games have been impacted by weather? Even though the Bills are the highest scoring offense does not make them the best offense ( I think you disagree), they are further down in yards which was not true last year. Do you think Allen's performance has been top 5? I ask that to a fanatical Bills backer so I will guess the answer is yes.....but compare his performance this year to others around the league and it is reasonable to say others have been better so far. Of coarse if you just point to the scoreboard there is no argument. Allen was not good in week 1. His completion % and yards per attempt are down. It has never been true the team with the highest scoring offense has the highest rated (or top 5) passer, that is an unrealistic assumption. r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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