balln Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 further proof. refs arent calling what they are seeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I haven’t watched any of the Chargers this year, but Herbert is basically a carbon copy of Allen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 uh oh Herbert gotta "develop his accuracy" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, billybob71 said: uh oh Herbert gotta "develop his accuracy" I mean if Herbert regularly misses guys like that 3rd down who are wide open. Yes, yes he does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, balln said: further proof. refs arent calling what they are seeing Actually, they’re calling what they’re not seeing, which might be worse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, Mango said: I haven’t watched any of the Chargers this year, but Herbert is basically a carbon copy of Allen. herbert is better at throwing the 50/50 balls. back shoulder fades - but he has big bodied targets i think allen is better at making his line look competant, better runner, and better pure arm talent (makes throws from all kinds of platforms) its close tho 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Okay so again I see a great QB overthrow a wide open receiver on a deep ball. Why is it when Allen does it some folks melt down and call it a big problem? Those are low percentage plays under the best of circumstances. Very few QB's, even among the best of them.can have Russel Wilson's deep ball placement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, balln said: herbert is better at throwing the 50/50 balls. back shoulder fades - but he has big bodied targets i think allen is better at making his line look competant, better runner, and better pure arm talent (makes throws from all kinds of platforms) its close tho I think Allen is definitely a better runner. I was just talking about as a passer. I agree with you, there are some things they do different. I think largely Herbert came in more polished. And might still be in some ways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: Okay so again I see a great QB overthrow a wide open receiver on a deep ball. Why is it when Allen does it some folks melt down and call it a big problem? Those are low percentage plays under the best of circumstances. Very few QB's, even among the best of them.can have Russel Wilson's deep ball placement. Shhhh. You'll wake up Scott. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, balln said: herbert is better at throwing the 50/50 balls. back shoulder fades - but he has big bodied targets i think allen is better at making his line look competant, better runner, and better pure arm talent (makes throws from all kinds of platforms) its close tho Allen has more escapability, more ability to make plays out of structure. You see this when you compare their rushing numbers. Despite Herbert running a 4.68 and Allen running a 4.75, Allen is more dependable. But Herbert is a more efficient QB, probably a bit more naturally accurate. More of a consistent, mechanical delivery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 It sounds like Herbert has “Fast eyes” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mango said: I haven’t watched any of the Chargers this year, but Herbert is basically a carbon copy of Allen. Way less swag! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mango said: I haven’t watched any of the Chargers this year, but Herbert is basically a carbon copy of Allen. You said it!! An occasional overthrow too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 i must be a homer i think Allen is better than Herbert, Herbert real good tho but JA next level baby 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Watching the Chargers, they throw short, short, short, then hit on longer throws. Herbert and the Chargers throw to backs more, then load up on 25-30 yard bullet type strikes. Allen is more a playmaker. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: You said it!! An occasional overthrow too He most definitely has a tough time controlling his velocity and trajectory. He’s at times a little late to the read. 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: You said it!! An occasional overthrow too This is their biggest difference in skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, billybob71 said: i must be a homer i think Allen is better than Herbert, Herbert real good tho but JA next level baby All three seem really good. Though I will say with Josh sometimes he does things that just seem broken, like they shouldn't be allowed in fair play. I'm sure the others have those moments too I just don't really notice them as much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 ol gene likes that eye roll emoji 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mango said: I haven’t watched any of the Chargers this year, but Herbert is basically a carbon copy of Allen. When I said that in other thread I got cursed out. Probality by people who dont watch the games smh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Dumb. No excuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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