MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 The end of the day there isn’t but maybe 2 or 3 defenses that can do what the Steelers just did to the Bills. Without Tuitt by the way. As much as everyone wants to talk Watt and he deserves it. Casey Heywood is what makes that defense go. he abused every Bills OG they put him against. And when Bills where able to get their long drives Heywood was out or doubled. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: If you can’t see the issues that weren’t fixed from last years team what can I say. I’m sure we will pick off the low hanging fruit, why wouldn’t we? But the last 5 teams we played have handled this offense each better than the previous, if your happy about that good for you. Nobody is happy, but being a Debbie Downer will solve zilch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, davefan66 said: One dimensional? After a handful of games of this, I may agree. One game, especially the season opener, doesn’t tell the tale. Today the game plan wasn’t good, that’s for sure. I’ll be honest, if a couple of those BS penalties are not called and it’s a different game. I'll go one further and say that even being fairly one dimensional, not having a great game plan on offense, if we just didn't turn the ball over on two fourth and 1s and then give up the special teams TD we probably win that game. Basically saying even not playing our best or calling the best game we still probably win if we would have just punted and made the Steelers go a long field and not given up the special teams score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Duh, it’s one game, never said otherwise. The Bills were off, they weren’t gonna go 17-0 anyway. My observations were that the ills that plagued them last season, continue. Good lord. Probably too early to tell...I dont think we were running 20+ times into the steelers front 7 regardless of if we have improved running the football or not. We'd all be here talking about how being too conservative in the second half lost us the game if we ran more haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: It also looked like the snap was low and he hadn't gotten totally control of the ball at first. Super gusty today. Was certainly also a factor on this play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just got to my hotel after traveling right after the game. Their D is legit. So is ours. One of those games where one big play or one missed play does it. They had a big special teams play, we had an unbelievably dumb 4th down call. And there’s the two plays that did it. Both these teams will be in it in January-February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Correct. Sloopy snap, sloopy hold, too much time before he kicked. To me. Haak jacked that. I don’t understand what you mean by “sloppy hold” i dont understand what he means by sloopy??>.. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, oldmanfan said: Just got to my hotel after traveling right after the game. Their D is legit. So is ours. One of those games where one big play or one missed play does it. They had a big special teams play, we had an unbelievably dumb 4th down call. And there’s the two plays that did it. Both these teams will be in it in January-February. I agree, both defenses were good. But it went beyond two plays. The scary part, is the plays we left on the field were the same plays that continue to haunt us. Josh had a touchdown to Sanders he couldnt complete, sloppy when moving with the ball, #2 CB continues to be an issue, no pass rush, and the oline is a big problem against good defensive lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Duh, it’s one game, never said otherwise. The Bills were off, they weren’t gonna go 17-0 anyway. My observations were that the ills that plagued them last season, continue. Good lord. All the ills that went to AFCCG..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: It also looked like the snap was low and he hadn't gotten totally control of the ball at first. Haack also seems to take an extra step Back there, or is just slow. Didn’t help that the Steelers broke up the middle, but he had to speed up. We blocked one of his punts last year, and I think the pats blocked two of his in a different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I agree, both defenses were good. But it went beyond two plays. The scary part, is the plays we left on the field were the same plays that continue to haunt us. Josh had a touchdown to Sanders he couldnt complete, sloppy when moving with the ball, #2 CB continues to be an issue, no pass rush, and the oline is a big problem against good defensive lines. Agree. I picked two specific plays. A game like this is a play or two here and there. I think Levi played OK, the TD in the corner he got his hand on and deflected but their WR made a great play. And the PI wasn’t deserved. Would have liked to see them run more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) Observations: No, it’s not the end of the world. Pitt especially when heathy is a tough opener 51 pass attempts is too one dimensional. PERIOD! You need to keep them honest. Wallace needs to turn his head, he’s a vet making rookie plays OC / Gameplan was meh! JA draw has been run to death, especially against Pitts D. We ran that to death Pitt has a legit top 5 defense Blocked punt changed the game I am not sure what our aversion is to utilizing the TE position more There are a crap load of competitive teams in the AFC it’s a long season Rebound big next week Edited September 13, 2021 by PayDaBill$ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 It was a windy day against a physical team and they went finesse. End of story. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Haack also seems to take an extra step Back there, or is just slow. Didn’t help that the Steelers broke up the middle, but he had to speed up. We blocked one of his punts last year, and I think the pats blocked two of his in a different game. They had 3 or 4 guys break through. That will get cleaned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Nobody is happy, but being a Debbie Downer will solve zilch Didn’t know that having a discussion in a forum could solve a professional sports teams deficiencies, thanks for clearing that up👍 It’s all sunshine and candy going forward… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: First half yes, 2nd half not so much… I think this is a salient point. IMHO we didn’t play with nearly as much “juice” on D in the 2nd half as in the first. I thought the D softened up coming out after the half with the lead. Chris Collinsworth on Thurs nite was talking about the difficulties of playing 4Q when the starters have been limited in preseason to avoid injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Haack also seems to take an extra step Back there, or is just slow. Didn’t help that the Steelers broke up the middle, but he had to speed up. We blocked one of his punts last year, and I think the pats blocked two of his in a different game. Matt Haack had a punt blocked today and one in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Have to win next week to avoid an early hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, TH3 said: All the ills that went to AFCCG..... I’d love to see progress, maybe you don’t. But when a team returns 21/22 starters and the issues that plagued them last year look apparent again - so far - it doesn’t give me the warm and fuzzies for marquee matchups like KC. Yes, any given Sunday, and the players can still improve, but I’d love to experience more than another playoff exit. I’d love this team to take the next step. It’s okay to criticize the squad, just like it’s okay to praise their hard work, that’s what these messageboards are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think this is a salient point. IMHO we didn’t play with nearly as much “juice” on D in the 2nd half as in the first. I thought the D softened up coming out after the half with the lead. Chris Collinsworth on Thurs nite was talking about the difficulties of playing 4Q when the starters have been limited in preseason to avoid injury Do you think they were exhausted? I have to admit I did not pay much attention to the rotation. Or could they not keep up the intensity they showed in the first half.. Cleveland certainly faded in the second half today… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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